Re: External GPS antenna question

2009-07-04 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2009-07-04 at 19:56 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 04 July 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes: On 7/4/09, Hammer Armin aham...@datazug.ch wrote: With the internal gps antenna, the first fix last quite long - with the external -

External GPS antenna question

2009-07-03 Thread Mikhail Umorin
Hello -- I want to buy an external GPS antenna and would like to know what is the difference between active, passive (?), powered, and amplified antennas (antennae). What are the implications of their use with FR (power consumption, performance, etc)? Which ones of the above should work in

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-17 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
(contain other's quotations with multiple levels). Just a question/advice. The problem is that gmail web interface don't follow the threads they fake them using Subject instead of the correct headers In-Reply-To and References. ___ Openmoko community

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-17 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
(contain other's quotations with multiple levels). Just a question/advice. The problem is that gmail web interface don't follow the threads they fake them using Subject instead of the correct headers In-Reply-To and References. Exactly what I just discovered looking at raw email headers

Re: Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-16 Thread Evgeniy Karyakin
/node21.html More offtopic: how about not to start new thread with every mail from you? For reading this ML I use GMail web interface and ~95% of messages from you are shown as new threads despite that messages are obviously replies (contain other's quotations with multiple levels). Just a question

Edje question: doing real work while animating

2009-06-13 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Dear List, I hope there are some edje expert here;) Im trying to animate the action when clicked on people-contacts detail -phonenumber. Please see this commit: http://git.paroli-project.org/?p=paroli.git;a=commit;h=77a5a8db15293a95572e92406e5e99e3a02190a8 The problem is right now, that it

Re: Edje question: doing real work while animating

2009-06-13 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: But with this approach the animation is completely missed. Can somebody shred more light here? I even tried to signal back from the python code, and do the animation through this signal. It works unless I dont

Re: Edje question: doing real work while animating

2009-06-13 Thread Didier Ptitjes
Hello, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I suspect the problem comes from the fact that our program is single threaded. But its just a hunch right now. Are you saying that you are doing long non-UI operations in the UI event loop thread ?? Then don't wonder too much. Threads exist for that purpose. My 2

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-07 Thread roguemoko
On 6/06/2009 6:26 PM, arne anka wrote: stop answering to me at all! From one dolt to another, stop trying to convert threads with your own agenda and answer the original frakkin question, or ask your own ... or stay silent and this won't happen. You have some worthwhile input when you stay

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-06 Thread roguemoko
seem to have quite a knack for that. My apologies. I'll rephrase. Criticising features you know nothing about in a thread about a question you contributed nothing to is spreading FUD and causing mail congestion. what exactly is your problem? from the information i gathered over time from

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-06 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:32:27AM +0200, arne anka wrote: now i see, that indeed qi with flash has at least ... limited usability, because obviously due to jffs2 support (however that is possible, since jffs2 is the first fs of the freerunner) that file appending boot options can not

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-06 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 21:15, Rask Ingemann Lambertsenr...@sygehus.dk wrote: On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:32:27AM +0200, arne anka wrote: now i see, that indeed qi with flash has at least ... limited usability, because obviously due to jffs2 support (however that is possible, since jffs2 is the

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-06 Thread arne anka
now i see, that indeed qi with flash has at least ... limited usability, because obviously due to jffs2 support (however that is possible, since jffs2 is the first fs of the freerunner) that file appending boot options can not be read. Qi can read the kernel from NAND simply because

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-06 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 21:42, arne ankaopenm...@ginguppin.de wrote: now i see, that indeed qi with flash has at least ... limited usability, because obviously due to jffs2 support (however that is possible, since jffs2 is the first fs of the freerunner) that file appending boot options can

Replying to messages (Was: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-06 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 09:13:20PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Now imagine i see a message from some person, with some ML (i'm subscribed to Cc'd). Also there's like 5 persons in Cc list, that are addressed explicitly because they have something to do with the topic (like they're subsystem

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org wrote: NAND support is only there because of the GTA01/GTA02 legacy and it has limitations compared to SD. While technically possible to bring NAND support in Qi on par with SD, I think it would just make things more

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 08:55:58AM +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! I use the distribution on NAND as an SD card reader. I load the OS, connect to my laptop, and I write the new distro to the uSD card. It is impossible to do it on the same SD card, from where the OS is running. You cant

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. I dont have uSD card reader on my laptop. And I bought it 3 months ago. My previous laptop had SD card reader, but never worked with linux. (I would

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread arne anka
more complicated and lure people into using NAND whereas SD is the future. In the GTA03 design, we would not have used NAND for anything but storing Qi and read-only factory data. Likewise, for gta02-core, I wouldn't consider using u-boot. my experience is, that nand is far more reliable

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Thursday, 4 de June de 2009 09:56:36 Martin Jansa va escriure: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. but I always feel bad when I have to remove back-cover. How long can that plastic fixtures hold back-cover tight and reliably? I have done it at least 600

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/4 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com: El Thursday, 4 de June de 2009 09:56:36 Martin Jansa va escriure: Its easy to reformat or repair system on SD cart with laptop or PC.. but I always feel bad when I have to remove back-cover. How long can that plastic fixtures hold back-cover

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I use the distribution on NAND as an SD card reader. Hmm, I think we have to distinguish between things you can do and things that actually make sense here ;-) Once you've started to fill the niches, it's always unpleasant to change. That's one reason why it's difficult to

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-04 Thread Werner Almesberger
arne anka wrote: - what reasons make you say, sd is the future? The main reasons are: - much easier handling. SD is like a disk, so you can use all the standard tools and get standard behaviour. NAND needs a lot of exceptional treatment to properly address wear and factory-bad blocks.

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-03 Thread arne anka
Oh did I say that questioning Qi was spreading FUD and mail congestion? that's how i understood it. My apologies. I'll rephrase. Criticising features you know nothing about in a thread about a question you contributed nothing to is spreading FUD and causing mail congestion. what exactly

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-03 Thread Werner Almesberger
roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: I booted from flash and SD card for quite some time. I think it's best to consider Qi as an SD-centric solution and to plan migrating towards SD. NAND support is only there because of the GTA01/GTA02 legacy and it has limitations compared to SD. While technically

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread Cameron Frazier
Just to provide another data point for those in doubt, I run Qi with SHR on the NAND, and no uSD install. The only issue I have is that /boot on the NAND is not respected/read, but I can live with that. No additional configuration was required, I flashed Qi and it just worked. Kind regards,

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread arne anka
Just to provide another data point for those in doubt, I run Qi with SHR on the NAND, and no uSD install. The only issue I have is that /boot on the NAND is not respected/read, but I can live with that. how does one add additional kernel arguments, which according to the wiki is done by

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread Cameron Frazier
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:19 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Just to provide another data point for those in doubt, I run Qi with SHR on the NAND, and no uSD install.  The only issue I have is that /boot on the NAND is not respected/read, but I can live with that. how does one add

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread arne anka
My understanding is that not respecting the /boot/append-GTA0[123] is a NAND-only hardcoded limitation, since NAND has different partitions for ROOTFS and KERNEL. that's what i understood and i specifically looked into the wiki, to make sure i understood right. still, if /boot/ is not read,

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:28:07 pm Cameron Frazier wrote: My understanding is that not respecting the /boot/append-GTA0[123] is a NAND-only hardcoded limitation, since NAND has different partitions for ROOTFS and KERNEL. I suspect that it's more to do with the fact that Qi only understands

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-02 Thread roguemoko
was spreading FUD and mail congestion? My apologies. I'll rephrase. Criticising features you know nothing about in a thread about a question you contributed nothing to is spreading FUD and causing mail congestion. There we go, back in your box. You're a feisty one aren't you? Rhetorical btw. Sarton

Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks, Am I right in thinking that if you are using Qi and have flashed a JFFS2 image to your NAND which has a /boot with a kernel in it then it will boot that kernel in preference to the one that you have flashed directly with dfu-util ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel :

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: Am I right in thinking that if you are using Qi and have flashed a JFFS2 image to your NAND which has a /boot with a kernel in it then it will boot that kernel in preference to the one that you have flashed directly with dfu-util ? No, Qi doesn't

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: No, Qi doesn't support jffs2. bummer. how's that -- it makes qi unusable for everybody using the internal flash as primary device and forces to boot from sd card. not sensible imo. How's that? Why don't you want to use the kernel flashed to

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread arne anka
No, Qi doesn't support jffs2. bummer. how's that -- it makes qi unusable for everybody using the internal flash as primary device and forces to boot from sd card. not sensible imo. How's that? Why don't you want to use the kernel flashed to dedicated nand partition? as far as i

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: as far as i understood from the qi discussions, qi does not use that partition but looks for a specific file in a specific location, make the kernel nand partition unnecessary. so, if it can't read jffs2, one cannot boot from flash. You should have

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread arne anka
You should have read Qi wiki page or Qi source code instead. well, i follow the discussion on the lists a long time. if that kind of information is not worth to be mentioned, i certainly do not expect it to be mentioned in either wiki or code. would you please stop, to cc me always and

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:09:02 pm Paul Fertser wrote: No, Qi doesn't support jffs2. That's what I thought. But, in that case, how come my Om2009 phone boots into 2.6.29-rc2 (which is in /boot in the JFFS2 image) and not to the 2.6.28 image I've flashed to it ? Flashed with: dfu-util -d

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: You should have read Qi wiki page or Qi source code instead. well, i follow the discussion on the lists a long time. if that kind of information is not worth to be mentioned, i certainly do not expect it to be mentioned in either wiki or code. Source

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:09:02 pm Paul Fertser wrote: No, Qi doesn't support jffs2. That's what I thought. But, in that case, how come my Om2009 phone boots into 2.6.29-rc2 (which is in /boot in the JFFS2 image) and not to the 2.6.28 image I've flashed

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread arne anka
Source code is what actually compiles to binary that then runs on device. So it's the ultimate source of information about what and how it is supposed to work. Any discussions on ML especially those filled with inaccurate conclusions drawn from nowhere can't get you any clear understanding of

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:49:11 pm Paul Fertser wrote: File name is wrong, the kernel is 2.6.29 actually. Look at the git hash. Ahh, good call, eventually traced it to this to confirm that.. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=Makefile;hb=f19f259d3c1afde8eae53983fd19f61831927413

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de writes: Source code is what actually compiles to binary that then runs on device. So it's the ultimate source of information about what and how it is supposed to work. Any discussions on ML especially those filled with inaccurate conclusions drawn from nowhere

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 04:07:10PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: My MUA is flexible enough to strip _forged_ Reply-To header that this list errorneously adds to every mail. So i'm perfectly aware how this fucking mailing list works and i had to explicitly workaround this stupidity. There's a

Avoid duplicates on ML (was: Re: Fundamental Qi question)

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Marcel tan...@googlemail.com writes: Am Montag, 1. Juni 2009 14:32:26 schrieb Paul Fertser: Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com writes: My MUA is flexible enough to strip _forged_ Reply-To header that this list errorneously adds to every mail. So i'm perfectly aware how

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes: On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 04:07:10PM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: My MUA is flexible enough to strip _forged_ Reply-To header that this list errorneously adds to every mail. So i'm perfectly aware how this fucking mailing list works and i had to

Re: Fundamental Qi question

2009-06-01 Thread roguemoko
On 1/06/2009 9:14 PM, arne anka wrote: No, Qi doesn't support jffs2. bummer. how's that -- it makes qi unusable for everybody using the internal flash as primary device and forces to boot from sd card. not sensible imo. I booted from flash and SD card for quite some time. Your information

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-05-07 Thread Michael
On 24/04/09 03:16:21, wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: ... Micro SD card does it support ? I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? Thx 8GB cards work fine. Might try a 16GB when the price comes down. Michael.

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-29 Thread Helge Hafting
George Brooke wrote: Having low-level stuff like iwconfig fail is what makes me suspect a kernel problem. Try rmmod a6000 (I think thats the correct module) them modprobing it again as that some times works for me. I might try. But if it helps, then it is still a kernel bug that needs

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org http://opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with it. I have trouble with wifi in SHR testing too. I suspect a kernel problem.

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/4/28 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Adam Jimerson wrote: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org http://opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with it. I have trouble with wifi

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.nowrote: I have trouble with wifi in SHR testing too. I suspect a kernel problem. I usually run wpa_supplicant. Failing that, I connect to WEP networks using iwlist iwconfig commands directly. Even these low-level tools fails

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: I ignored all these issues as before I used mainly BT networking and USB, they works well with recent kernels, with olders BT stopped to work after suspend/resume and with USB my laptop was often not able to enumerate.

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Jan Vlug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Currently, I playing around with Android beta 6 (from Koolu). Wireless does not work there either. Sometimes I can the FreeRunner is able to scan for networks, sometimes not. I was never able to get a connection with an access point. Adam

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread George Brooke
On Tuesday 28 April 2009 12:49:44 Helge Hafting wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org http://opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with it. I have trouble

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Konstantin
George Brooke schrieb: On Tuesday 28 April 2009 12:49:44 Helge Hafting wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org http://opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Paulson ha scritto: 2009/4/28 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-28 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/4/27 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: I am still trying to get my wireless to work on the 4/16 release of SHR-Testing, I can get a scan to work on eth0 every now and then and the rest of the time I get a device does not support scanning error. No matter if I can scan or not eth0 will not

[SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-27 Thread Adam Jimerson
I am still trying to get my wireless to work on the 4/16 release of SHR-Testing, I can get a scan to work on eth0 every now and then and the rest of the time I get a device does not support scanning error. No matter if I can scan or not eth0 will not connect to any AP. I have set up the

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-27 Thread matthias
I had the same problems with the same image. But today, when i tried to connect to the network of my university, it surprisingly worked. I did the following: powered up the device with shr-settings and started mofi.py in the terminal. It worked fine until i switched the device off. So, I hope that

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-27 Thread Adam Jimerson
Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with it. On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:43 PM, matthias matthiasfels...@web.de wrote: I had the same problems with the same

Re: [SHR-Testing] Wireless Frustration (was: Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question)

2009-04-27 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/28 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Well it is nice to see that I am not the only person with this problem, for me Mofi doesn't even load, I am installing the one from opkg.org to see if I have any better luck with it. i'd recommend knjmokowifi also for managing connections, it works

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-25 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Friday 24 April 2009 11:15:52 am arne anka wrote: /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools containing? It is a bash script, to be nice to the list I posted the contents in pastebin here http://pastebin.com/m6d6284f0 mine on my desktop does nowhere mention the string wlan. do a grep

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Tim Niemeyer
Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with Uboot???/Qi???; i don't

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Tilman Baumann
Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC cards, but can't boot it? (Booting with

Fwd: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-24 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/21 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org: the upgrade changed eth0 from wireless to wired.  just go edit your /etc/network/interfaces, delete the extraneous things like wlan0 if you're not using it, and make eth0 your wireless again.  being that the wifi mgt tools don't work for me, all my

Re: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-24 Thread Hermann Lacheiner
2009/4/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: ifconfig reveals only a loopback adapter, and 'ifup usb0' tells me 'the device is already configured' I had the same problem with shr-unstable from 20090423. 'ifconfig usb0' shows that the interface is configured but not up, so 'ifconfig usb0

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Ben Wilson
Tilman Baumann wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports SDHC

Re: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-24 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/24 Hermann Lacheiner hermann.lachei...@gmail.com: 2009/4/24 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: ifconfig reveals only a loopback adapter, and 'ifup usb0' tells me 'the device is already configured' I had the same problem with shr-unstable from 20090423. 'ifconfig usb0' shows that

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Tilman Baumann
Ben Wilson wrote: Tilman Baumann wrote: Tim Niemeyer wrote: Hallo wim.delvaux, * wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com [24-04-09 04:16]: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have never tried it, but i have heared it supports

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
Here is what I have for my interfaces configuration /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Wireless interfaces #iface wlan0 inet dhcp #wireless_mode managed #wireless_essid any iface atml0 inet dhcp #

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread arne anka
/etc/network/interfaces has nothing, repeat, nothing to do with the _naming_ of the interfaces! it kicks in onyl after the interfaces are created already. as i wrote already in my first answer: check the udev rules! here on my desktop debian it is /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
I don't have a udev rule like that here are the udev rules that I have 50-udev-default.rules 95-udev-late.rules 60-persistent-input.rules local.rules 60-persistent-storage-tape.rules permissions.rules 60-persistent-storage.rules run.rules 80-drivers.rules

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
part (ie wlan or eth): grep -r wlan /etc/udev/ and if something turnes up to have a lokk at the line in question. f ex the rule mentioned reads SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:1a:a0:a0:f8:18, ATTR{type}==1, KERNEL==eth*, NAME=eth0 ATTR(address) denotes the mac

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread arne anka
/etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, NAME=etherd/%k, GROUP=disk well, that's not we are looking for. next step: ist the driver built-in or loaded as module? in case it is a module (which name?) modinf modulename would be interesting. and the, grepping /etc for wlan would

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:58 AM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:SUBSYSTEM==aoe, NAME=etherd/%k, GROUP=disk well, that's not we are looking for. next step: ist the driver built-in or loaded as module? in case it is a module (which name?)

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Andy Selby
2009/4/24 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: ... Micro SD card does it support ? I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973. I tried booting off of it but apparently the stock bootloader can't boot

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-24 Thread arne anka
/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools containing? mine on my desktop does nowhere mention the string wlan. do a grep through /var and maybe a strings /boot/vmlinuz | grep wlan if it is built-in and no udev rule exists, the name would be hardcoded and can, if at all, only be overridden by a

Re: GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-24 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Andy Selby andyfro...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/4/24  wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? I have a Transcend 4Gb sdhc card and it works fine with my neo1973. I tried booting off of it but

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-23 Thread arne anka
check udev, i got a rule making eth0 eth1 when eth0 already existed -- dunno what genius created that one. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-23 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Thursday 23 April 2009 05:28:31 am arne anka wrote: check udev, i got a rule making eth0 eth1 when eth0 already existed -- dunno what genius created that one. Well it seems I managed to solve the device problem, after spending hours messing with it breaking down sending a message to this

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-23 Thread arne anka
you should be able, to determine the ap associated to by using the iwutils. does it also happen, when you execute the dhclient manually? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-23 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Thursday 23 April 2009 07:29:46 am arne anka wrote: you should be able, to determine the ap associated to by using the iwutils. does it also happen, when you execute the dhclient manually? It seems something is not right in my network interfaces is not right, iwlist scan on both eth0 and

GTA01 question : what capacity of ....

2009-04-23 Thread wim . delvaux
... Micro SD card does it support ? I.e. if I buy a 8GB micro SD card, would the GTA01 be able to use it ? Thx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

[QtExtended] gstreamer question

2009-04-22 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
Hi all, in qtextended, there are different kind of media engines: - helix - cruxus - gstreamer cruxus is the default, and using the libmad patch, it can play mp3's But what's the advantage of gstreamer support? If I compile it in, has it priority over cruxus if gstreamer libs are on the device?

Re: [QtExtended] gstreamer question

2009-04-22 Thread Lorn Potter
On 23/04/2009, at 4:00 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Hi all, in qtextended, there are different kind of media engines: - helix - cruxus - gstreamer cruxus is the default, and using the libmad patch, it can play mp3's But what's the advantage of gstreamer support? If I compile it in,

[SHR-Testing] /etc/network/interfaces edit question

2009-04-22 Thread Adam Jimerson
Besides removing, or commenting out, the wlan0 configuration what else is needed to switch eth0 back to being for the wireless instead of wireless? After setting up wpa_supplicant and making the change I get an error about how eth0 No such device, I can post any needed config files to help figure

Re: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-20 Thread David Ford
the upgrade changed eth0 from wireless to wired. just go edit your /etc/network/interfaces, delete the extraneous things like wlan0 if you're not using it, and make eth0 your wireless again. being that the wifi mgt tools don't work for me, all my network config is managed via this file. -d

SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-19 Thread Adam Jimerson
In SHR Testing is it wise to do a opkg upgrade command, would it be any different than what comes in the image that gets flashed on the phone, basically if I were to flash a older release of SHR testing onto my phone would opkg update opkg upgrade take me up to the version that was

Fw: [SHR] This may be a stupid question, but...

2009-04-19 Thread Young
I just got my freerunner a week ago so be gentle! =P I've been playing with the various distros, and I think I like SHR best. but it has a few problems. namely the finger scrolling being enormously slow. when I was playing around with 2008.12, the theme for that was WAY faster, and more usable.

[SHR-testing] hope this isn't a stupid question...

2009-04-19 Thread Young
I just received my freerunner last week, so please be gentle! =P I have played around with the various distros, and I finally decided that SHR was the best one to play with. (for right now) but the ASU theme for 2008.12 was a LOT faster and more usable than the Illuem-SHR theme. So, is it

Re: SHR Testing upgrade question

2009-04-19 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/4/20 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: In SHR Testing is it wise to do a opkg upgrade command, would it be any different than what comes in the image that gets flashed on the phone, basically if I were to flash a older release of SHR testing onto my phone would opkg update opkg upgrade

Re: [SHR-testing] hope this isn't a stupid question...

2009-04-19 Thread W.Kenworthy
What version? shr-testing prior to the current one had enlightenment using 30+% of cpu slowing everythingdown. The fix is to move a desktop file in/out of /usr/share/applications. Black magic - search the list for the details. BillK On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 16:19 -0500, Young wrote: I just

opkg - question

2009-04-15 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Dear list, I have seen a strange behavior in opkg. The context is this: A certain repository (listed in the FR's conf files) has these versions of 'package': package.0.1.ipk package.0.3.ipk Somewhere else in the internet (not a repository) this file is available:

Re: opkg - question

2009-04-15 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote: opkg install http://mypage.org/package.0.2.ipk And the package that gets installed is package.0.3.ipk !! Is this normal? I cannot have package.0.2.ipk installed? how? I'd guess that's the normal

Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

2009-03-30 Thread Yorick Moko
have you guys tried this: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265 ? On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:45 AM, roby hariseldo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i also didn't get fixes with shr-testing it used to work fine it also still works

Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

2009-03-30 Thread Leonti Bielski
Yeap. I was recently fixed and it works now on SHR-Unstable. So for those who still have problems - try upgrading frameworkd. Leonti On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: have you guys tried this: http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265 ? On Mon, Mar

Re: [SHR/FSO] - GPS - no fix, ogpsd.pickle question

2009-03-29 Thread roby
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i also didn't get fixes with shr-testing it used to work fine it also still works with openmok-agpsui, but not with tangogps I have noticed that if i -start with agpsui, -Power on, -wait for the fix (without moving the

Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-27 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:57:29AM +0800, mx li wrote: i see the message: can't open kernel image You chose the 'moredrivers' config. That kernel image is huge. U-Boot doesn't yet automatically detect the kernel image size when loading from flash ROM, so you'll need to increase the load size

Re: question about kernel image build

2009-03-27 Thread limx-g
Subject: Re: question about kernel image build On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 09:57:29AM +0800, mx li wrote: i see the message: can't open kernel image You chose the 'moredrivers' config. That kernel image is huge. U-Boot doesn't yet automatically detect the kernel image size when loading from

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