Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Finance Webinar: The Outcomes

How, exactly were the auditors appointed given the fail to appoint auditors at the recent meeting? Given that the financials also weren’t approved at the meeting, this seems highly irregular. Owen > On Jul 27, 2022, at 00:36, AFRINIC Communication > wrote: > > Dear Colleagues, > >

[Community-Discuss] Mediation

I am informed that AFRINIC let the offer of mediation from Cloud Innovation expire without response. Owen ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss

Re: [Community-Discuss] Interim order of June 14th 2022

, On 20 Jun 2022, at 10:20, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <community-discuss@afrinic.net> wrote:As far as I am concerned, the AFRINIC board and management are the adversaries and they are so _BECAUSE_ they are acting contrary to the bylaws and against the interests of the memb

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

; On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:12 AM Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > > >> On Jun 19, 2022, at 06:25 , Amin Dayekh > <mailto:ad...@megamore.ng>> wrote: >> >> The discussion here is not about the board. > > It is as far as I am conc

Re: [Community-Discuss] Interim order of June 14th 2022

To be very clear here, IMHO, AFRINIC and the AFRINIC membership and community are not the adversaries in the law suit. As far as I am concerned, the AFRINIC board and management are the adversaries and they are so _BECAUSE_ they are acting contrary to the bylaws and against the interests of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

uld ask the NRS directly. As I said, I have no affiliation with NRS. Owen > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 7:21 PM Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > > >> On Jun 18, 2022, at 04:51, Amin Dayekh > <mailto:ad...@megamore.ng>> wrote: >> >&

Re: [Community-Discuss] RIRs Message to the AFRINIC Community

It is nice to see such support for efforts to clean up the AFRINIC board coming from the other RIRs. Owen > On Jun 19, 2022, at 22:56 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear AFRINIC Members and Community, > > In the context of the ongoing challenges faced by AFRINIC, the other Regional >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

ay very quickly. Owen > > > >> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 11:06 AM Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 18, 2022, at 00:26 , Amin Dayekh wrote: >>> >>> You answered yes to my question, whereby I asked clearly rephrased here: a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

ion, which is pretty much what I said in the previous response below. Owen > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 8:19 AM Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > > >> On Jun 18, 2022, at 00:00 , Amin Dayekh > <mailto:ad...@megamore.ng>> wrote: >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

hey are upright? I rarely have faith or rely on upright intentions of any organization. > I am not pointing any finger at you , rather i am just seeking your opinion > pls. My opinion is mostly unformed as insufficient data is given in your question. Owen > > > On Sat, Jun 18,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

tory for AfriNIC's > Resource Members (RM)! keep reading, please :-D > > > Please see my comments below, inline... > > Le vendredi 17 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a > écrit : > > >> O

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

nt response. Owen > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 4:40 AM Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > > >> On Jun 15, 2022, at 12:00 , Amin Dayekh > <mailto:ad...@megamore.ng>> wrote: >> >> Owen, >> for the sake of time, I will quote and reply and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

> On Jun 15, 2022, at 13:07 , John Curran wrote: > > > >> On 15 Jun 2022, at 1:30 PM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >> mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: >> ... >> AFRINIC has not won or last any cases yet regarding the geog

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

uot;I have no time to waste on endless discussions as the 2nd party is very sure is justifying a wrong cause.” is truly telling as apparently I am not such a second party and therefore perhaps you are admitting by your actions that I do not actually have a wrong cause. If so, this is progress. Ow

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

eply as I usualy say what i want and walk, > reason being I have no time to waste on endless discussions as the 2nd party > is very sure is justifying a wrong cause. > > By the way, I did not mention anyone in my email except PTA so which company > you are talking about?! >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

ws. > By the way, I did not mention anyone in my email except PTA so which company > you are talking about?! I was talking about you and the misinformation contained in your statements. I thought that was clear from the context. Owen > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 5:11 PM Owen D

Re: [Community-Discuss] Demanding Clarification and/or apology from PTA

> On Jun 14, 2022, at 14:32 , Amin Dayekh wrote: > > Dear members, > my attention was drawn to another misleading video of known sources who are > taking maliciously all steps against the Members of AfriNIC and AfriNIC. > > in the Video I noticed a misleading statement about the "Government

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 8, 2022, at 11:43 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <mailto:ee280047-c081-4c9e-90ea-c1a4701f3...@delong.com>>, > Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > >>> On Jun 7, 2022, at 17:03 , Ronald F. Guilmette >>> wro

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 7, 2022, at 17:03 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message , > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> Again, I don't know the details, but this is what I surmise from >> the video and from other comments I've seen on the lists. I had >> no involvement wit

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

the appointment of an entity consisting of multiple natural persons as a proxy. Owen > On Jun 7, 2022, at 12:51 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear PDWG, > Hope this email finds you in good health! > > Please see my comments below, inline... > > Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLon

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 7, 2022, at 13:07 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear AfriNIC's Community, > > Hope this email finds you in good health! > Please my comments below, inline... > > Le mardi 7 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discu

Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

How did the board hold a meeting given that they cannot field a quorum after the AGMM? Owen > On Jun 7, 2022, at 00:15 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Dear Mr. Eshun & Dr. Omari, > > I congratulate both of you for your appointment as Chairman and Vice-Chairman > of AFRINIC respectively. > I wish

Re: [Community-Discuss] Visit AFRINIC member by NRS (Number Resource Society)

> On Jun 3, 2022, at 06:33 , John Curran wrote: > > > >> On 20 May 2022, at 4:08 AM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss >> mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: >> >>> On May 20, 2022, at 00:51 , Ish Sookun >> <mailt

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for a Special General Member’s Meeting

What board? There is no quorum to begin a board meeting at this point. Owen > On Jun 3, 2022, at 02:57 , Paul Hjul wrote: > > Hi all, > > A petition has reached critical mass to call an SGMM, hopefully the Board > won't play pokey on this one. > > Dear Members, > > For your information,

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 23:20 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > >> On 2 Jun 2022, at 20:16, Owen DeLong > <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: >> >> It would be legitimate to insist that only one of those members of the >> “representative team” do

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 21:50 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message > , > > Andrew Alston wrote: > >> No Ronald, >> >> >> They do however contain billions in dark money, massive amounts of shadowy >> lobby groups, the occasional invasion of a building, maybe a few people >> baying

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 16:01 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message , > Owen DeLong wrote: > >> So you suggest what alternative? In the face of the various gross misdeeds >> by the >> AFRINIC board, including their tampering in the election to avoi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Binding Arbitration

> In my own country (USA) on the rather special date of January 6th, 2021, > some insurrectionist elements of my own government are now known to have > been scheming to delay the final phase of the selection of our new president, > and NOT for any noble, well-founded, or good reason. Their hope

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

good health! > > Thanks to find my comments below, inline... > > Le jeudi 2 juin 2022, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a > écrit : > > >> On Jun 1, 2022, at 12:25 , Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> There are always other options. If not, then why does every country on earth > employ its own diplomatic corp? You are right… For example, the UA could have chosen to fight Mr. Putin as they have, or I suppose they could have allowed their country and culture to be destroyed and annexed into

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

> On Jun 1, 2022, at 12:25 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2022, 22:51 Ish Sookun, > wrote: > Hi Noah, > >> On 1 Jun 2022, at 22:22, Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> wrote: >> >> Part of the above sentence reads ... >> >> appoint "A" representative…. >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Don't sell your Vote!

> The election of Board members, or any elections, is a constitutional right > and supposed to be a democratic process, unintimidated, and uninfluenced by > anything, not to mention any illegal activities such as malicious offers of > money. This is true… It should not be obstructed by the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

s. This is correct. >>> >>> A major worry is the way the board and its committees' are selective in >>> what to comply with, when it comes to the bylaw. >>> >>> There may be imperfections in that bylaw, but there are enough safeguards >>> for

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

; A major worry is the way the board and its committees' are selective in what > to comply with, when it comes to the bylaw. > > There may be imperfections in that bylaw, but there are enough safeguards for > manoeuvering positively, until members can meet. > > Sunday. >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Visit AFRINIC member by NRS (Number Resource Society)

> On May 20, 2022, at 00:51 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > >> On 20 May 2022, at 11:11, Owen DeLong > <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: >> >> I have no affiliation or business with NRS whatsoever, but I will say that >> we do need to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Visit AFRINIC member by NRS (Number Resource Society)

> On May 18, 2022, at 07:11 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Paul & Samuel, > >> On 18 May 2022, at 15:36, Samuel Uzoechi > > wrote: >> >> To accomplish this goal, we strive to hold the regional internet registries >> (RIR) systems accountable, and make sure they

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

In fact, in electing one member for a 2-year remainder of term two years ago, the precedent in question has already been set by decision of the membership at that time. Owen > On May 17, 2022, at 17:45 , Sunday Folayan wrote: > > Dear Mr. NANGHAKA, > > The proposals suggested by Mr.

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

Apologies… I got references crossed up and post the following correction to my previous message… The problem, Paul, is that the bylaws conflict with themselves. Under the present circumstances it is literally impossible to follow the strict letter of the bylaws because they do, indeed call

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

The problem, Paul, is that the bylaws conflict with themselves. Under the present circumstances it is literally impossible to follow the strict letter of the bylaws because they do, indeed call for three year terms without allowing for the election of partial year terms (unnumbered paragraph

[Community-Discuss] Fwd: SPECIAL INVITATION TO ATTEND THE AFRINIC RESOURCE MEMBERS ROUNDTABLE 

Am I the only one who thinks that sending out invites for such an event only 5 days before the event is rather short notice? Owen > Begin forwarded message: > > From: AFRINIC > Subject: SPECIAL INVITATION TO ATTEND THE AFRINIC RESOURCE MEMBERS ROUNDTABLE > Date: May 11, 2022 at 01:11:47 PDT

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement of Final Candidate Slate for AFRINIC Board Elections

Yet further evidence of the power grab by the AFRINIC board. The nominating committee is supposed to serve to recruit qualified candidates to give the membership choices in the election of directors. In this case, instead, they have become a selection committee of the board designed to prevent

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

The two of you are talking past each other about different things without achieving a meeting of the minds. The board has the power to appoint committees and committee members. The board has the power to appoint board members through the casual vacancy process UNTIL THE NEXT Member Meeting at

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

> On Apr 30, 2022, at 23:27, Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hello folks, > > On 28/04/2022 11:07, AFRINIC Communication wrote: >> >> 2. In an event that a casual vacancy must be filled, the Board should >> fill the said vacancy till the end of the previous candidate’s mandate, >> i.e. when the next

Re: [Community-Discuss] Governance Committee Communique

> On Apr 28, 2022, at 00:07 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear Community, > > On April 23rd and 24th 2022, the GovCom had a 2-day face-to-face working > session for the purposes of the assignment in reference to the Board's > resolution 202202.677, whereby, the GovCom met as a result

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Call for Nominations for open AFRINIC Board of Directors Seat

This response is quite concerning. First, you failed to answer the more important question… With https://afrinic.net/board showing 4 seats up for re-election and one seat vacant, why is the call for only 3 seats to be nominated? What is to happen with the other two

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

Jordi is not the one who is confused here. Democracy != Transparency. Transparency is a prerequisite to democracy. That’s exactly what he has said each time after his first post which contained an unfortunate and inaccurate equivalency. If you prefer it in mathematical terms, transparency is a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

end up in front of a court to be judged on the actual merits of the case. At that point, AFRINIC will almost surely be found wanting. Owen > > Daniel KN > > On Sat, Feb 19, 2022, 9:49 AM Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wr

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update on the complaint lodged against AFRINIC at the Competition Commission of Mauritius

> On Feb 18, 2022, at 13:19 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 2/18/22 13:57, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: > >> Democracy = Transparency > > Hmmh... mmkay. I think it would be more accurate to say that a functional democracy requires transparency. Hence, since AFRINIC

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update

are some reference to the > document that is the basis for your views? > > (I was not aware that the judgement had been made publicly available.) > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > >>>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update

club for your > boss. > > > Mirriam > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 9:25 PM, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > wrote: > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.n

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update

It does not… The current injunction still stands. In fact, the standing of the current injunction is the basis on which the judge ruled that the appeal was effectively moot and therefore dismissed it. Owen > On Feb 15, 2022, at 07:01 , Dewole Ajao wrote: > > Thanks for the update which you

Re: [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update

To be clear, the appeal was dismissed strictly on the grounds that the existing injunction essentially renders the appeal moot. No judgment has yet been made by any court regarding the merits of the overall case. Owen > On Feb 15, 2022, at 06:51 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear

[Community-Discuss] Board minutes discrepancies...

I note with interest in reviewing the board minutes from 24 November, 2021, the following items: 2.1.2 dated 8 November 2021 Resolution 202111.656 The board approved the minutes of the Board Meeting held on 8 November 2021. Proposed BE. Seconded HY. Resolution passed unanimously. While there

Re: [Community-Discuss] sock puppets (was: Re: Fwd: DEFAMATION AGAINST MR. LU HENG :-/)

> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:23 , Omo Oaiya wrote: > > > > On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 at 19:05, Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > > I would propose that -any- participant on -any- AFRINIC mailing list should > be permitted to send a private email to postmas...@afrinic.net

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

linked has no relationship to such a thing and is, instead a contract of attainder which should not be allowed. Owen > On Jan 20, 2022, at 10:46, Owen DeLong wrote: > >  > The requirements are expressed in sexist terms. Arguably a violation of the > very CoC it alleges to bin

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

The requirements are expressed in sexist terms. Arguably a violation of the very CoC it alleges to bind one to strict adherence. Perhaps this should be reviewed and amended? Owen > On Jan 20, 2022, at 04:52, AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > AFRINIC is now introducing

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

Each of them is described in a case in Mauritian court. Feel free to pull the cases. They should not be hard to find. Owen > On Jan 7, 2022, at 09:10, Owen DeLong wrote: > >  > >>> On Dec 30, 2021, at 02:14 , DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote: >>> >>> I wond

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

des. However, the press releases around these cases have been no more or less vague than virtually any other similar dispute throughout history and this is generally true of both sides. Owen > > > > > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, 23:08 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:comm

Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd

Are you saying that the cloud innovation press release contains false, misleading, or inaccurate defamatory claims about afrinic? Owen > On Dec 28, 2021, at 12:38, John Curran wrote: > >  >> On 28 Dec 2021, at 2:49 PM, Mathanya Ramaboea wrote: >> >> I highly appreciate CI's good

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Oct 8, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Omo Oaiya wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2021 at 18:12, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: > > > > I will add more actors as we go alone so that we can ge

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Oct 3, 2021, at 10:29 PM, Noah wrote: > > Abdulkarim, > > I have taken note of your rant. After all "A LIE DOES NOT LIKE BEING > CHALLENGED". Should we no start referring to your various diatribes as rants too? This is border-line ad hominem and has no place on the list, IMHO. … > I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 28, 2021, at 09:45 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > I’ve been silent till now on till now on all this. > > However, I must say that you’re right that they didn’t violate the CoC, they > did something presumable worst which may constitute criminal offenses >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

But the ones that produced and propagated the content didn’t violate your CoC either as they didn’t post it to your list. Owen > On Sep 27, 2021, at 23:31 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear Nigel, > > We thank you for bringing this to our attention. > > The message was not targeted

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 27, 2021, at 05:28 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear community members, > > AFRINIC has taken note of a post together with a corresponding attachment > that contains inaccuracies and presented out of context on this thread >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> Noah, > > Do you think Owen doesn’t know all this? He has to sing to his master’s > tune. My advice is to ignore Owen and all the other paid stooges and call > out their paymaster as you are doing. I do not have a master. The tune I sing is one of my choosing. Your ad hominem attack

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 03:14 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Thu, 23 Sep 2021, 22:10 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: > > > > On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:55 , Ronald F. Guilmette > <mailto:r...@tristatelogi

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 25, 2021, at 02:23 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Sat, 25 Sep 2021, 03:27 Owen DeLong, <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > List administrators, are we really going to tolerate Noah calling everyone > who disagrees with him a “Lu Heng recruit” or similar? &g

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

List administrators, are we really going to tolerate Noah calling everyone who disagrees with him a “Lu Heng recruit” or similar? Noah, contrary to what you’d like to have everyone believe, there are people who disagree with you who have nothing to do with Lue Heng. Owen > On Sep 24, 2021,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 11:55 , Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: > > In message , > Noah wrote: > >> I am calling you out specifically so that perhaps you as the patron of >> Larus which is affiliated with the Number Resource Society can address >> the motive behind this calls and emails that

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

IMHO, that shouldn’t be happening and I’ll do what I can to have a stop put to it. Owen > On Sep 23, 2021, at 07:59 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 9/23/21 14:34, Noah wrote: > >> Hi Lu Heng >> >> A number of ISPs and Afrinic resource members across the region are >> receiving phone

Re: [Community-Discuss] Lu Heng + Larus and the Number Resource Society

> On Sep 23, 2021, at 05:34 , Noah wrote: > > Hi Lu Heng > > A number of ISPs and Afrinic resource members across the region are receiving > phone calls from your organisation called the number resource society. > > The people making the phone calls are mostly spreading misinformation about

Re: [Community-Discuss] Ancient History

> > I should begin by stating my assumptions, some or all of which may be wrong, > and asking Owen if he can either confirm or refute any of these, specifically: > >a) that the Lu Heng who is the current primary stockholder of Cloud >Innocation, Ltd. (Seychelles) which is currently

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

duce the links. Because you are > caught with your lies, you are asking me to research for what does not exist. > > > SHAME !!! > > > > Marcus > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > From: Owen DeLong > Sent: Monday, August 23, 20

Re: [Community-Discuss] USE of (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC) ADDRESS SPACE IN AFRICA

services to the customers in Africa. > > > Mirriam. > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature> > On Sun, Aug

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

Do your own research. I’m not your secretary. Owen > On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:37 , Marcus K. G. Adomey wrote: > > Owen, > > Then share the links of your responses. > > > Marcus > > Marcus > > > > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka

Re: [Community-Discuss] USE of (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC) ADDRESS SPACE IN AFRICA

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 10:59 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 20:28 Owen DeLong, <mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: > Akamai has a lot of presence in Africa. > > They do not have a membership in AFRINIC. > > That is fine... > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

wers. Don't forget > to answer the question (Y/N) from John too. > > > > Marcus > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > From: Owen DeLong > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:20:52 PM > To: Marcus K. G. Adomey > Cc: Sylvain Baya ; Genera

Re: [Community-Discuss] USE of (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC) ADDRESS SPACE IN AFRICA

ote: > > Owen, > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021, 20:13 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: > > > There is widespread use of addresses from every RIR in other regions, > including a lot of address > space in use within Africa

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

> > > Marcus > > > > > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > From: Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:06:20 PM > To: Sylvain Baya > Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC ; Brian > Sowers > Subject:

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

> On Aug 22, 2021, at 01:07 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear AfriNIC's Community, > > Please find my comments below, inline... > > Le ven. 20 août 2021 à 17:36, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a > écrit : > I

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

I am confused… How is a question about consent an attempt to kill AFRINIC? Is AFRINIC so fragile that it cannot withstand a simple question of its consent and cooperation in a process initiated by third parties allegedly on its behalf? I would think not. If it is so fragile, then there are much

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

The key differences here being that prior to litigation and after the conclusion of litigation, ARIN has a history and track record of open and honest communication with its membership and community and trustworthy leadership. AFRINIC’s track record is not so strong here, with a board that

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gems from the Archives

gt; > https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/003849.html > <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2014/003849.html> > > > > At that time it was just "an absurdity". > > ...copy & paste the public archive here: > > ~°~ > [rpd] Gue

Re: [Community-Discuss] TESPOK_KENYA STATEMENT ON AFRINIC

Yes, I sincerely hope the board will take the advice contained therein. Owen > On Aug 11, 2021, at 07:52 , Noah wrote: > > Hi Fiona, > > Thank you so much for the statement from the Technology Service Providers of > Kenya (TESPOK) on AFRINIC. > > Cheers, > ./noah > neo - network

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] [rpd] Unaddressed queries by AFRINIC during AGMM

How about just providing simple text answers to the questions? I don’t think webinars are necessary. I think that the questions need to be addressed and that there is really no difficulty to do so in text. Owen > On Aug 5, 2021, at 06:03 , AFRINIC Communication wrote: > > Dear Mr Wollner, >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update 04 Aug 2021

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 04:18 , Murungi Daniel via Community-Discuss > wrote: > > One probable reason could be that CI were caught with their pants down and > requested for time to cook up a new story :) > Not this crap again. Whereas you are entitled to your opinion, stop spewing

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 04:44 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear AfriNIC's Community, > > Please see my comments below, inline... > > Le mardi 3 août 2021, Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> > a écrit : > > >> On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvai

Re: [Community-Discuss] NRO MoU section 9. Advisory Appeals Process (was: ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA))

Sylvain, I think you missed some very key points in this… I have added emphasis and separated the relevant parts to help you… > > 9. Advisory Appeals Process > The NRO shall establish an NRO Advisory Appeals Panel, with one > representative from each RIR region, but whose members shall not be

Re: [Community-Discuss] ISOC’s statement on AFRINIC

That is neutral non-committal doublespeak that could make an American politician proud. They take no side. They neither express support nor condemnation for AFRINIC’s actions in this process. I would hardly call that a statement of support. Owen > On Aug 4, 2021, at 10:03 , Noah wrote: >

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 23:33 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Owen, as per Patrice's reply, you did not say that Cloud Innovation Ltd is > your client. You said it is one of your company's client. Your company name > and affiliation is not mentioned in the article. Technically, Cloud Innovation is one

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 19:10 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message <354f6704-0224-4525-b26b-d9b259fb2...@delong.com>, > Owen DeLong wrote: > >>> Show me where AFRINIC took *any* action to in any way remove any of its >>> bank assets or to

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

volunteer the information upon introduction does not in any way affect the validity or accuracy of what I had to say. Owen > On Aug 3, 2021, at 04:33 , Omo Oaiya wrote: > > Hello Patrice, > > My thanks too. I understand from your comment that Owen Delong did not > voluntee

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 14:52 , Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > > > Le jeu. 29 juil. 2021 à 02:44, Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> a écrit : > > >> On Jul 28, 2021, at 16:57 , Arnaud AMELINA > <mailto:ameln...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

t he is saying is right and true, because himself is not yet convinced. > > -- > Arnaud > > Le mar. 3 août 2021 à 04:00, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> a > écrit : > > >> On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvain Baya &g

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 23:20 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > On Sunday, 1 August 2021 21:36:55 +04 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss wrote: >> There are very few powers that be for dealing with a situation where an >> RIR’s board and/or management run amok and

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 14:57 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD > wrote: > > Hi Noah, > > Your interpretation on this is wrong. > > Read my detailed email a few days ago. > > 11.4 Allows the Board to define any policy regarding Internet Resources that > they believe is urgently needed. > >

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

> On Aug 1, 2021, at 14:25 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, 00:06 Andrew Alston, > wrote: > This is incorrect and in line actually with what I said - > > Nop > > > Any policy adopted by the Board under the provisions of Article11.4 shall

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

> On Aug 3, 2021, at 02:53 , Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > > In message > > Paul Hjul wrote: > >>> You and I both know that no such judicial order would ever have been >>> issued by any U.S. court, >> >> >> take it you have not read *United States ex rel. Rahman v. Oncology >> Assocs.*,

Re: [Community-Discuss] South Africa ISPA Statement on Recent AFRINIC developments

, which is exactly what I told him. Owen > On Aug 2, 2021, at 23:30 , Ish Sookun wrote: > > Hi Owen, > > On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 07:38:35 +04 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss > wrote: >> Under such a circumstance, with so many customers and the company’s &

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvain Baya wrote: > > Dear AfriNIC's Community, > > Please see my comments below, inline... > > Le samedi 31 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong <mailto:o...@delong.com>> a écrit : > > >> On Jul 30, 2021, at 15:14 , Sylvai

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