What they attempted to do was what I dislike about some Word
Processor users. They wanted to make it more like a page layout
program, but forgot the fine controls needed to male them good.
Word Perfect was a great word processor but then they insisted on
adding crap so it could do fancy page
Thank you for using the past tense. Made. Not anymore but they once did.
Stewart
At 09:50 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
Ah, the Sleepy Jackson stratagem: when reality is inconvenient and renders
your point moot, cheat. I'm sure you will enlighten us with how they
prevent anyone from using one of
>What MS forgot, was we spent years learning how to use their Word
>Processor and were quite happy with it. We did not ask them to
>change the menu system on it.
They also forgot that they once had a very good word processor that was
very logical and easy to use. They have steadily crapped it
> That would be true in a free market. MS has insulated itself from
> market
> forces and hence is free to be as shoddy as it wants to be.
Ah, the Sleepy Jackson stratagem: when reality is inconvenient and renders
your point moot, cheat. I'm sure you will enlighten us with how they
prevent anyone
>If the market agrees with you, MS will be punished with reduced sales and
>consumers switching to alternatives, just as the market is doing to IE. If
>not, well then, you'll have refined the angry crank persona just that much
>more.
That would be true in a free market. MS has insulated itself fr
You see that explains my bitch.
I have been using Word long enough I know exactly how to do a header
or a footer, format it, etc. (I started using Word when it was a DOS
based Word Processor.) MY dad worked for AT&T and they had contracts
with MS to supply their products to the company and m
>And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS.
I don't hate MS. I hate shoddy work. If MS stops being shoddy I will not
be complaining.
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This thread seems to have gone on and on so I'm sorry if I missed any
mention of these things. I truly appreciate everyone helping me from time to
time, maybe some here will find these helpful.
Has anyone seen the UBitMenu Plugin that provides a Free option to use the
old menus with Office 200
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
> >It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer
> >didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to
> >roll them back to Office 2003. Every single person refused this offer and
> >said that th
At 08:57 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
There are several free, open source alternatives to Office available,
including Google Docs, which our new glitterati Fed CIO started moving the
DC gubmint to when he was the DC CIO. Many .orgs have moved to Open Office
to take advantage of the significant cost
> Here is kind of where you are right and wrong.
And here is where I disagree with you.
> Corel is now marketing a version of Word Perfect, but that power
> house has now become a joke of a program.
>
> This is one case where MS used their monopolistic market muscle to
> force people into using
> I am a MSfan boy according to Tom and I dislike them immensely for
> this change!!!
That's the final straw! Turn in your badge and decoder ring at the door.
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> A dumb way to do it.
Rather a shame that actual users don't agree with you.
Must...reeducate...users...
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Here is kind of where you are right and wrong.
When they introduced 07 they kind of took 03 off the market so you
did not have much of a choice on a paid office suite.
A number of states and a few nations are insisting on an open office
compatibility that MS has resisted immensely.
Corel is
> It is interesting that the cheerleaders for this latest interface
> travesty are the same two people who are always cheerleaders for
> whatever
> MS deigns to dish out.
I'm sorry that you're having such a tough time with objective reality, Tom.
Should I tell them that they're doing it all wrong?
Careful who you call paleface!!!
I am a MSfan boy according to Tom and I dislike them immensely for
this change!!!
Stewart
At 06:58 PM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>
>
> It is interestin
And also interesting...the MS hater is again...hating MS.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>
>
> It is interesting that the cheerleaders for this latest interface
> travesty are the same two people who are always cheerleaders for whatever
> MS deigns to dish out.
>
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>Just so you know, this video is a film transfer from items in our
>collection, to which we own the rights (although I realize why you're
>bringing this up...)
OK, if you promise not to tell the bad guys.
iMovie assumes that all DVD discs are DRMed.
Use Disk Utility to create a disk image file
Because Tom reacts before he thinks and obviously thinks everyone is a
crook.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Turk wrote:
> Just so you know, this video is a film transfer from items in our
> collection, to which we own the rights (although I realize why you're
> bringing this up...)
>
>
>It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer
>didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to
>roll them back to Office 2003. Every single person refused this offer and
>said that they loved the new interface too much to go back to the old.
It
>Otherwise folks just stop using it. Or retain their older version.
Or switch to Open Office.
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>The daisy chained drives are 80GB, 160gb and 500GB containing 56GB,
>140GB and of data respectively. Is that OK?
I should be referring you to the ArithmeticGuys.
56GB + 140GB + 121GB = 317GB
>What's the 500GB limit related to ... a proportion of the size of the
>1TB backup drive?
Rule of
>But, using the Help file and actually _doing_ it once or
>twice, and figuring out the differences, it really wasn't *harder* -
>only *different*.
I'm not looking for different for the sake of being different. This is
not a fashion show. Was it better, or did they put you for the wringer
just fo
> Just curious, what is the experience level and age range for the
> people who loved the new interface?
Experience level was average and ages in the 20's to late 30's.
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:18 PM, rleesimon wrote:
> me, I took typing in high school, the only course I use every day...lol
>
Personal typing was my most painful course in junior high. I had a friend
who could just type as fast as the selectric would let him but I never could
manage to copy any
check out:
http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/default.htm
they have a free trial for 15 days, support paypal and
it costs $29.95 for a single copy with quantity discounts.
Rich
I Know, I know, why spend more money to modify office 2007 but
either you get into the 21st century or you p
me, I took typing in high school, the only course I use every day...lol
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From: Jordan [mailto:jor17...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 1:12 PM
To: rleesimon
Subject: Re: Best touch typing tutor software for OS X ?
That's pretty amazing!
I have not tried very h
The daisy chained drives are 80GB, 160gb and 500GB containing 56GB,
140GB and 121 GB of data respectively. Is that OK?
What's the 500GB limit related to ... a proportion of the size of the
1TB backup drive?
Does the Time machine 1 TB backup drive have to be empty or can it have
some data
Just so you know, this video is a film transfer from items in our collection,
to which we own the rights (although I realize why you're bringing this up...)
David Turk
Manager, Preservation Imaging Services
Indiana Historical Society
Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center
450 W. Ohio St.
>In iMovie, I've been trying to capture some video someone else had burned
>to DVD. I've tried import, with no luck. I do have a DVD player with a
>DV output, that lets me capture the video via Firewire. Is it not
>possible to capture video via internal DVD, & thus need to convert using a
>p
Just curious, what is the experience level and age range for the
people who loved the new interface?
Richard P.
> It took me a few weeks to finally track down the problem, event viewer
> didn't offer any real clues, but while I was troubleshooting, I offered to
> roll them back to Office 2003.
>I want to install a 1 TB SATA II drive internally in a Leopard G5 on the
>2nd onboard SATA controller and use it as the target drive for Time
>Machine to back up the main drive and 3 HFS+ daisy chained external
>firewire drives.
>
>Is that possible and easily so?
Should work with ease. This
> I have yet to meet a non IT person who doesn't strongly dislike MS's
> 07 versions.
> People just want to do their work ... not be forced to slow down to
> learn something in the process for no good reason.
My experience has been the complete opposite.
When I first started rolling it out to st
I'd love to have a list of exactly those features of Word that you actually use.
Mail Merge?
Hanging indents?
Tables (with math)?
Styles
Fine adjustments of line spacing??
. . . . .
People object to "menus" but I find substantially everything within two levels
below the main menu, which is
Date:Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:44:29 -0400
From:John Settle
Subject: Windows Media Player Sound - Tourbusrider Followup
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
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What is the status of your WMP and other issues? Have you had any
> Is this true for _all_ kinds of users, e.g. basic users (produce/edit
> only "simple" documents), intermediate users, and advanced users (use
> all sorts of bells and whistles in the application? Is this true for
> both folks who "spend all day" working with Word documents, and those
> who use W
> The F1 key is very useful, but remember some of us are trying to be
> productive, and when you constantly have to hit the F1 key to figure
> out soemthing that you knew how to do on the old system, it gets old,
> and frustrating and you get rid of it.
Constantly? That's what I don't get. I used
That is part of my point. I use Word almost everyday.
Some days it is simple edit print. Other days it is a mail merge,
envelope addressing.
Maybe another day laying out a form etc.
I know where to look when I want to do what I want to do.
When I went to Office 07 I immediately felt lost.
my wife got a job at berlitz a while back and it was for reception with
typing too ...she did not type ...we went to the used bookstore and got a
typing textbook used for $1.00 ...over the weekend, she followed it and
arrived Monday with her skills relatively achieved ...cheeep!
-Original Mess
Is this true for _all_ kinds of users, e.g. basic users (produce/edit only
"simple" documents), intermediate users, and advanced users (use all sorts of
bells and whistles in the application? Is this true for both folks who "spend
all day" working with Word documents, and those who use Word onc
I remember using Mavis Beacon (Bacon?) typing tutor when I had to learn - - a
whole bunch of years ago. I see that a Mac version is still available on
Amazon.
David
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Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:05:43 PM
Subject: [CGU
The F1 key is very useful, but remember some of us are trying to be
productive, and when you constantly have to hit the F1 key to figure
out soemthing that you knew how to do on the old system, it gets old,
and frustrating and you get rid of it.
Stewart
At 10:14 AM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
The
I have yet to meet a non IT person who doesn't strongly dislike MS's
07 versions.
People just want to do their work ... not be forced to slow down to
learn something in the process for no good reason.
db
Tony B wrote:
The most complicated thing I had to re-learn was mailings. I even
think i
The most complicated thing I had to re-learn was mailings. I even
think it was called something else in older versions - "mail merge" or
something. But, using the Help file and actually _doing_ it once or
twice, and figuring out the differences, it really wasn't *harder* -
only *different*.
Just r
I've tinkered with this a few times. I don't know how good it is
compared to anything else, but it does help and it's free.
Obviously, the learner has to be online when they are using it.
http://sense-lang.org/typing/
db wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with the various touch typing tutor
I have the conversion tool to load the newer form on my Office 03. I
cannot find things I normally tweak and work with in the newer office
and just get frustrated with it.
It would have been nice if they included a way for those of us who
have used word since the DOS days to learn the new sys
Probably not because that file (applications) is a protected area on
the Hard drive file system.
There are many files there that need to be kept Hidden from un aware
hands. That is also where Outlook Express keeps it's files.
Stewart
At 08:19 AM 3/24/2009, you wrote:
Won't a "normal" Windo
> I expected the same reaction from both my wife and my boss when they
> were first faced with the new layouts. Oddly, neither of them said a
> thing to me or even asked my help with anything. In both cases it was
> months later when I thought to ask them if they were having any
> trouble and neith
I expected the same reaction from both my wife and my boss when they
were first faced with the new layouts. Oddly, neither of them said a
thing to me or even asked my help with anything. In both cases it was
months later when I thought to ask them if they were having any
trouble and neither were.
Won't a "normal" Windows search find it? Maybe that's why I keep using Windows
2000 and have it show all files including system and "hidden" files.
Fred Holmes
At 11:29 PM 3/23/2009, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
>I thought so too, but I had a heck of a time finding it.
>
>Stewart
>
>
>At 10:12
What is the status of your WMP and other issues? Have you had any luck?
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In iMovie, I've been trying to capture some video someone else had burned to
DVD. I've tried import, with no luck. I do have a DVD player with a DV
output, that lets me capture the video via Firewire. Is it not possible to
capture video via internal DVD, & thus need to convert using a program
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