Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Dunford
The sound coming out is orders of magnitude better than any computer speakers I have ever tried. Your advice is sound, but I'd add that there are (or at least were) some really exceptional computer speakers. Sonigistix, for example, made flat panel speakers that are now the stuff of legend (see

Re: [CGUYS] Ipod Touch question

2009-04-06 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Woot.com had Refurb 30GB iPods last week for $100. You can find them on amazon for $125. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yeah the last thing I really need is a portable Video player or MP3 player. (Not that I do not like them but my needs

Re: [CGUYS] Verizon Speed Test A Fraud

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
So what was the problem with the router? I replaced it. It is rare for such hardware to fail, but I do see it from time to time. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
I don't know what anyone else does, but, if I want decent sound out of my computer, I connect it from the line out jack to the aux in port on a mini stereo that was being discarded because the CD drive was bad. The sound coming out is orders of magnitude better than any computer speakers I

Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
They have a bias that can be seen pretty easily. (Ask Tom about their reviews and recommendations on Computers) I think it only rational to evaluate CR based on how they rate things I do know a lot about (yes, computers). In this area their bias has been so blatent that it throws into

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread db
Tom Piwowar wrote: I don't know what anyone else does, but, if I want decent sound out of my computer, I connect it from the line out jack to the aux in port on a mini stereo that was being discarded because the CD drive was bad. The sound coming out is orders of magnitude better than any

Re: [CGUYS] Ipod Touch question

2009-04-06 Thread Jeff Wright
Woot.com had Refurb 30GB iPods last week for $100. You can find them on amazon for $125. I had one of those from buy.com (which owns woot) and the hold switch was broken when I got it. The battery life was very poor, too. I returned it and luckily, they were out, so they issued a refund.

[CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread David Turk
Does anyone know if there are length limits to this type of cable? I'm only finding 13' as the max length. We have a video transfer unit (which is in a fixed location), are putting a video editing workstation in the same room. However, we may have 2 people working in the room at the same

Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Sloane
The problem I see with CR is that they have two completely different approaches to products. One approach is to stress test products in a controlled laboratory environment, while the other is to have reviewers just play with products and report on how they liked/disliked them. If you want to

[CGUYS] Mini Stereo? [Was: Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Not true IMHO. But if I already have an audiophile-grade mini stereo in my office I might as well use it and not clutter the place up with more speakers. For others, getting a mini stereo may be a good move as it adds capabilities along with the speakers. I really don't want to be playing

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Does anyone know if there are length limits to this type of cable? I'm only finding 13' as the max length. That is true for FW400 using an alpha connector. FW800 using a beta connector gos 100 metres. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Mini Stereo?

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
Seeing as how surround sound is a MUST for my gaming setup, mini stereos are OUT. But that's okay because there's nothing wrong with my Turtle Beach sound card and cheap Acoustic Authority 5.1 speakers with remote volume control (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002QKUUM). It's capable of

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
Ya, about 15 meters is the maximum length of a firewire cable. But you can get extenders (e,g, http://sewelldirect.com/firewireextension.asp). I have no idea if they work well for capturing as we've never used one. The problem is that you really need the deck close by to capture, not across the

Re: [CGUYS] Mini Stereo? [Was: Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Michael Drabick
Its smaller, and Sony usually has good quality sound. You won't be using it at a party but it should provide quality sound loud enough for an office environment. http://www.crutchfield.com/g_10210/Boomboxes.html?c=7tp=251avf=N Sony ZS-S2iP S2 Sport® CD/radio boombox with iPod® dock (Black/

Re: [CGUYS] Mini Stereo? [Was: Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread db
I have a 20 yr old JVC mini-stereo that is also losing some functions. and I agree ... most of the new mini-stereo look like transformer robots to me. I see few smaller units here and there for the kitchen etc that look decent enough but nothing very exciting. I guess the Bose mini-stereo

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:56 AM, db db...@att.net wrote: Not true IMHO. A set of Pro-Logic Dolby Surround speakers (a left and a right and a woofer unit) by Altec Lansing or other manufacturers will rival serious audiophile systems. That depends upon what the meaning of serious is. Steve

Re: [CGUYS] iPod digital audio [was: Ipod Touch question]

2009-04-06 Thread chad evans wyatt
Betty - If you haven't yet gone there, iLounge has exhaustive iPods discussion http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/reviews/entry/apple-ipod-touch-second-generation-8gb-16gb-32gb/ ...far more exhaustive than the shorthand responses you've gotten here.  FWIW, I use noise-canceling headphones with my

Re: [CGUYS] codec packs

2009-04-06 Thread mike
Ended up installing CCCP, i've used VLC many times, will probably install it anyway, but I wanted something that would allow me to play media in a nicer looking media player. Seems to go ok, no hiccups so far. On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: First I would just

Re: [CGUYS] codec packs

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
FYI, There are skins for VLC that will make it look like any other player you want. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:53 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Ended up installing CCCP, i've used VLC many times, will probably install it anyway, but I wanted something that would allow me to play media in a

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
The first USB3 products are expected in Q4 2009 or 2010. It's hard to say when the first camcorder USB3 interfaces may appear, but if I had to guess I'd say NAB April 2010 for early prototypes, another year for shipping models. But you're behind the curve already. Camcorders use memory cards, and

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread mike
USB 2 is actually behind firewire. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: The first USB3 products are expected in Q4 2009 or 2010. It's hard to say when the first camcorder USB3 interfaces may appear, but if I had to guess I'd say NAB April 2010 for early prototypes,

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread mike
You can get 32gig sdhc cards I believe. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Small end do cards. Most of the better ones have Harddrives and capacities of 30 GB. A Card tops out at 4-8 GB not good enough for more than an hour or two. HD HQ

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread b_s-wilk
Does anyone know if there are length limits to this type of cable? I'm only finding 13' as the max length. We have a video transfer unit (which is in a fixed location), are putting a video editing workstation in the same room. However, we may have 2 people working in the room at the same time,

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Small end do cards. Most of the better ones have Harddrives and capacities of 30 GB. A Card tops out at 4-8 GB not good enough for more than an hour or two. HD HQ digital Video takes lots of capacity that outstrips cards fast. Stewart At 12:19 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: The first USB3

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread David Turk
We only had money in the budget for one station. I've reworked where I'm putting the station; was perpendicular to the transfer unit, now is adjacent. This will solve the problem. Thanks. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
You are incorrect. See http://tinyurl.com/4nms5n . And high end pro camcorders are also doing away with tape; Panasonic has no tape models at all this year. You're right that some tapeless systems use hard drives or disks, but solid state memory is cheap these days so that's the direction

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
I'm telling you now, if you're looking for a new camcorder, do NOT get one with a tape drive in it, unless they offer you a _really_ good deal. You definitely do not want tape. It won't be long before you find it hard to buy tape. That will make you camera very obsolete.

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
USB 2 is actually behind firewire. The raw data rate for USB is higher than FW, but as is often the case, things are not what they first appear to be. USB is processor bound, FW is not, so effective data rates are higher with FW. I would not be so sure that FW is obsolete. Video folks need

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread David Turk
When I say video transfer unit, what I'm talking about is a standalone unit comprised of various media players (16mm film, VHS, Umatic, etc.); it's not a computer, isn't networked. There's also a DVD Recorder, with a Mini DV port. That's where the Firewire comes in. david David Turk

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Then they have really maxed out those cards. I was not aware that they were putting them out. They are expensive though (I looked 60-160 per card) The ones with the Harddrive option are not bad. I would not advocate getting one with tape today as SS memory is the best option (Quicker and

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
That depends upon what the meaning of serious is. Like a pair of Altec Lansing A4s? (640 lbs each) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That sounds like a pair of Klipsch Corner Horns. BIG Stewart At 01:39 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: That depends upon what the meaning of serious is. Like a pair of Altec Lansing A4s? (640 lbs each) * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread mike
Is the new USB spec the same as the old spec in this regard? With the raw speed increase in USB with this new type, it must be quite an overhall. Mike On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: USB 2 is actually behind firewire. The raw data rate for USB is higher

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread mike
I keep a small computer by my entertainment system, running a toslink from the computer to the A/V unit and keep itunes running on the computer. I can then use my ipod touch to play music on the computer. Speakers are small but powerful Polk units. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Tom Piwowar

Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
CR will give you the results of their exhaustive testing. n the other hand, if you want to find out which Merlot or Chardonnay is best, maybe you should check out Food Wine Magazine. On that note, I put personal computers and software in the latter category. I agree. I get all my computer

Re: [CGUYS] Mini Stereo? [Was: Request recommendation for compu

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Sony ZS-S2iP S2 Sport® CD/radio boombox with iPod® dock Thanks, but no way. I just noticed that www.audioreview.com has a section on mini systems. Some of those look promising. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
However notice 1.5 hours on 8 GB card. Video takes a lot of room, and if you are doing a lot of recording have lots of cards available. What some shooters do is offload during the day. Most any laptop will hold hundreds of hours of video footage, so you can keep shooting all day long with 1 or

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread Tony B
Are you drinking again today? She didn't specify a particular type of network. Fact is, many post houses use networks - gigbit and fibre channel - both faster even than firewire 800. The reason I didn't implement networking (NAS - network attached storage) for our workstations is twofold. First,

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Is the new USB spec the same as the old spec in this regard? With the raw speed increase in USB with this new type, it must be quite an overhall. If the transfer rate is processor bound I don't think upping the raw transfer rate means much. The slowest part of the system is going to determine

[CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Looks like the phone companies are thinking about selling computers and cutting MS out of the equation. T-Mobile is making noises about an Android-based tablet PC. After all, isn't a phone just a small computer with a wireless network?

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I understand that, but occasionally I do video taping for conferences with a variety of presenters. I would need a variety of cards to make sure I am always ready to tape when needed. Also I always buy a Camera with an Audio/Mike in port so I can directly hook into the sounds system. I

Re: [CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread mike
This is why MS is selling a dumbed down version of 7 for cheap to netbook manufacturers. Trying to keep themselves in the loop with the netbook crowd. So the question will be, is it worth 20-50 bux more to run windows then linux? And before someone complains about the hamstrung windows, I've

Re: [CGUYS] Length of Firewire/Mini DV cable

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Are you drinking again today? She didn't specify a particular type of network. Fact is, many post houses use networks - gigbit and fibre channel - both faster even than firewire 800. Well at least you are consistently clueless. RFC 2734 and 3146. OHCI DMA in hardware. High speed and low

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
Please please. This thread is clearly labeled USB3. That's THREE. A version of firewire that even comes close to it in speed will likely never see the light of day. Not the first time a lesser tech has won out in the end. But the fact is, the multicore CPUs we have these days have so much unused

Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop

2009-04-06 Thread Jordan
I've been a car nut all my life and been reading about cars in newspapers, Road and Track, Car and Driver, and Consumer Reports for 40 years. I've owned around 15, and driven and ridden in a couple dozen more. I'm sure many or most people disagree with me but my perception is that as far as

Re: [CGUYS] First Place? [Was: Not cool enough [was re: Laptop Hunters]

2009-04-06 Thread Jordan
Alvin Auerbach wrote: ...from what I could tell. As individuals, our car yarns are anecdotes. When Consumer Reports (CR) collects all of those anecdotes, they become statistics. CR has auto test engineers who test the cars in CR's own lab and on CR's own test track. No individual can do all

Re: [CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread Tom Piwowar
This is why MS is selling a dumbed down version of 7 for cheap to netbook manufacturers. I just read that Win 7 will come with rights to downgrade to XP. Nobody is asking about Vista. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread mike
Where are you reading this? All reports I've read/heard said win 7 was faster then both. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is why MS is selling a dumbed down version of 7 for cheap to netbook manufacturers. I just read that Win 7 will come with rights to

Re: [CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread Michael Drabick
Dells Business line has offered the down grade ever since XP went of the market - nice profit center - you can't get it with the home version - only the business/ultimate versions for $99/$129 respectively. Mike Tom Piwowar wrote: This is why MS is selling a dumbed down version of 7 for

Re: [CGUYS] More Competition

2009-04-06 Thread mike
No matter...found it. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:17 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Where are you reading this? All reports I've read/heard said win 7 was faster then both. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is why MS is selling a dumbed down version of

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Chris Dunford
Speakers are small but powerful Polk units. I guess this is close to OT, but WTH: Matt Polk (as in Polk Audio) was a fraternity brother of mine. In his freshman dorm room he had an audio system that he had built from scratch in high school (including the speakers). You simply would not believe

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread Jordan
I read a bit about camcorders for a couple years until I was sure people were pretty happy with the AVCHD format that the hard drive camcorders use. I finally got one in January. One thing I think Consumer Reports is good for is checking out the reliability of brands. When I was deciding to buy

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread b_s-wilk
Small end do cards. Most of the better ones have Harddrives and capacities of 30 GB. A Card tops out at 4-8 GB not good enough for more than an hour or two. HD HQ digital Video takes lots of capacity that outstrips cards fast. I have a Canon Elura that's about 3 years old. It uses mini DV

Re: [CGUYS] Mini Stereo? [Was: Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
Has anyone seen a good audiophile-grade mini stereo? Sure. The Meridian F-80 has gotten good reviews. If that's too stratospheric, Tivoli Audio makes the Music System, which I wouldn't exactly call audiophile but like all their Henry Kloss derived products is very nicely executed and costs

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread b_s-wilk
You are incorrect. See http://tinyurl.com/4nms5n . And high end pro camcorders are also doing away with tape; Panasonic has no tape models at all this year. You're right that some tapeless systems use hard drives or disks, but solid state memory is cheap these days so that's the direction

Re: [CGUYS] New Gear Question Regrading USB 3

2009-04-06 Thread b_s-wilk
I'm telling you now, if you're looking for a new camcorder, do NOT get one with a tape drive in it, unless they offer you a _really_ good deal. You definitely do not want tape. It won't be long before you find it hard to buy tape. That will make you camera very obsolete. Unless you use a

Re: [CGUYS] codec packs

2009-04-06 Thread Tourbus Rider Stuart Carlow
Did you have to Uninstall all other individual codecs and filters (like DirectVobSub, ffdshow, CoreVorbis, CoreAAC, etc.)?? I seem to have about 270 of them in the list provided by CCCP Insurgent. * Date:

[CGUYS] Another new Windows ad...

2009-04-06 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Just saw another new Windows ad on TV. No Lauren. A guy this time. He says that Macs are all about esthetics, not computing power. He wants a Windows machine because he is picky. He is an elitist. Steve * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] 60 Minutes story on deadly computer virus

2009-04-06 Thread Eric S. Sande
Would this logic apply to voting? If someone can't read or doesn't know the 3 branches of federal government or what continent California is in or has an IQ of 60, should they be trusted with the installation of political leadership (voting)? No, at least not with my sister. She's a PhD.

Re: [CGUYS] Request recommendation for computer speakers

2009-04-06 Thread rocky lee
http://www.jvc.com/presentations/WoodConeSpeakers/index.html Date:Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:55:59 -0400 From:Robert Carroll carrollcompu...@gmail.com Subject: Request recommendation for computer speakers My Klipsch 2.1 computer speakers no longer work. Don't know why. Power is on, and

Re: [CGUYS] Pro Video Cameras

2009-04-06 Thread rocky lee
Plenty of pros use Panasonic. The thought was that hi def digital instead of film would allow them to produce a quality product with fewer crew members. What they are discovering is that they require a dedicated crew member with training to handle the P2 cards, in the same way that a film crew