Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Dunford
And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law against any contract under duress? The argument is BS. Jeff M I think this

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Chris Dunford
Think of those massive profits Al Gore has been racking up.. Well, actually, Gore donates the profits from his environmental activities, including the books and the movie, to a nonprofit. Most of his wealth is from his Apple and Google stock.

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: I think this whole question is real simple. When others did this to OUR servicemen, we thought it was torture. What else really needs to be said? Those who support physically abusive interrogation techniques, AKA torture

[CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Marcio
My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have a

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Matthew Taylor
I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a conclusion and rejecting any logic incompatible with your conclusion. That has not place in law or science. I am not arguing what we did or did not do was right. I am not arguing what

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my data. How to I make C: without a partition? Or at least increase the first C: partition and decrease the second? Do I have to have

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Marcio
Again, excellent advice. You are becoming a psychoanalist... Why did I decide to do this? Obssessive compulsive traits?... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 11:17 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread mike
Right...and the company he chairs and partly owns that does the 'carbon offsets', he makes nothing? On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote: Think of those massive profits Al Gore has been racking up.. Well, actually, Gore donates the profits from his

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread mike
gparted is as much fun as you can have with a partition manager... Acronis is a lifesaver. Nothing like being back up and running complete with programs etc in ten minutes off a brand new drive. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: http://gparted.sourceforge.org

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Jordan
Do you think what trainees experience in a training exercise, in a controlled situation, at the hands of people they trust, is the same as what the prisoners experienced? Matthew Taylor wrote: I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy. You are simply starting from a

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Capitalists thrive only when their profit margin generates a customer's margin. That is when the capitalist's reward for producing roughly matches the value of the customer's satisfaction beyond the price paid. In these difficult times we should try genuine capitalism, as Adam Smith explained

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Again, excellent advice. You are becoming a psychoanalist... Why did I decide to do this? Obssessive compulsive traits?... Well you do know I think that anyone using a PC needs psychological intervention. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Wosnick
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Too bad, I always thought that PM was the best of the

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and I thougth there was no further development. And Ver 8 does NOT work on Vista. Isn't that Symantec's MO: buy a popular product, invest

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Michael Wosnick
I can't speak to whatever changes who made to what, I can just tell you that PM8 is NOT vista compatible. I tried and failed. Still works great on my XP systems and so I keep it for that. I use Acronis and/or Paragon now, and they are each fine, but PM was always my favourite in terms of ease

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tony B
In your new Vista, you can simply use Disk Manager for this. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marcio m...@ix.netcom.com wrote: My C: Drive has two partitions. One is much smaller and has the programs, windows, etc. The other much larger has only two files because I have a D: Drive with my

[CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?

2009-05-17 Thread Alvin Auerbach
1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day? year?) I'll buy an iMac Intel. 2. The latest version of NeoOffice is 3.0, and it runs on Mac PPC and Mac Intel. 3. The latest version of OpenOffice is 3.1, and it runs on Mac Intel but not Mac PPC. 4. The latest version of OpenOffice that runs on Mac PPC

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Jeff Wright
In contrast I see M$ making its money by grabbing its customers by the balls and making them pay. They hook businesses in with the promise of low prices and big savings, insinuate themselves into the core of the business, and then start making demands. Essentially, pay up or we pull our

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Jeff Wright
Apple thrives by boosting their profit margin. In fact if you look at the I'm a Mac ad series I think you will find that most of the ads are just about that -- how Apple boosts the customer's wallet. FTFY * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Jeff Miles
Agreed. Jeff M On May 17, 2009, at 5:30 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: And so legally you twist the definition because certain members of the military agreed to have it done to them with their training. What contract did the prisoners at Guantanamo(sp) sign? And what about the law

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
In your new Vista, you can simply use Disk Manager for this. I did a little digging. With Vi$ta M$ changed the way drives have been partitioned for the last 30 years. So any older partitioning utility will create partitions that fail to boot -- so don't use those anymore. Fortunately,

[CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Henry Bruhl
For free: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-create-edit-windows-partitions-with-partitionmagic/ _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits.

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread mike
You can resize partitions from Vista's computer management console. On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: If I'm not mistaken, I don't think Symantec even supports Partiton Magic any more. Last time I looked, version 8 was the latest (had been for a few years) and

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Jeff Miles
To a point you're right. But what's being argued is the interpretation of the controlling law. And if that interpretation was manipulated to suit the desires of a few. On May 17, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Matthew Taylor wrote: I am not legally twisting anything, nor am I supporting the policy.

Re: [CGUYS] Revealed Truth

2009-05-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
So when is it not? Every time we change political parties it seems each one wants to rewrite what has already taken place. Stewart At 04:49 PM 5/17/2009, you wrote: To a point you're right. But what's being argued is the interpretation of the controlling law. And if that

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Jeff Wright
From what I have read, M$ is not giving out much information about what has changed. Why am I not surprised? Results 1 - 10 of about 4,090,000 for vista disk management http://www.google.com/search?q=vista+disk+managementrls=com.microsoft:en-us ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8startIndex=startPage=1 Heck,

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tony B
Vista's repartition function isn't great though. I tried to diddle with the partitions on the wife's laptop and was unable to get C: down to the 50gb I wanted; I believe I had to settle for like 75gb/150. There was only 10G on C:, so I know Partition Magic would have done it.

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Marcio
Yes I had used it before. It was fun. I think I still have an old one (Version 4?)...before it went Symantec... Marcio -Original Message- From: Michael Wosnick mwosn...@rogers.com Sent: May 17, 2009 4:02 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Marcio
I know, I know...you give a hand and the person wants the arm... Human nature... So far I can´t imagine me moving to a Mac... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 1:20 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Marcio
Well, perhaps I can still use my old Version... but I am nor invested on this... Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 4:42 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? If I'm not

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
I know, I know...you give a hand and the person wants the arm... Human nature... So far I can´t imagine me moving to a Mac... And it would be so dull around here without your computer adventures. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well, perhaps I can still use my old Version... but I am nor invested on this... Since you are using XP, which still uses the original partitiona method, this might be a reasonable thing to do. Backup everything and don't blame us for any misfortune.

Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?

2009-05-17 Thread Art Clemons
1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day? year?) I'll buy an iMac Intel. 2. The latest version of NeoOffice is 3.0, and it runs on Mac PPC and Mac Intel. 3. The latest version of OpenOffice is 3.1, and it runs on Mac Intel but not Mac PPC. 4. The latest version of OpenOffice that runs on Mac