Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread David K Watson
In addition to the other suggestions, you can look at switch audio converter: http://www.nch.com.au/switch/ It comes in a free and a paid version, and the free version will do batch conversions to MP3 I think, while the paid one gives you a number of additional conversion options. On Dec 18

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
I've had fine experiences in mixed and non mixed environments. I'm wondering...how would the scientists run their software on machines that didn't run their software? This is precisely my point, this point has nothing to do with windows or os x. Did they fire everyone and replace the machines wi

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
VirtualBox is a free emulator and works well. There are versions for OS X, Windows, Linux, Solaris. I installed WXP Pro in VirtualBox on my MacBook. It's just as fast as last year's Compaq. I used an installer disk from a dead Dell. Unless you buy an emulator and then buy another OS no it wo

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
On OS X I've only used SoX...but I hear mplayer is good. Google will guide your way.. mplayer is good, but easier to use inside the GUI of FFMPEGX or several other GUI wrappers for Unix tools if you're planning to convert more than one file. http://ffmpegx.com/ I also use QuickTime Pro with

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
Yes "want" is involved but in a society where you are disadvantaged and uncool etc to not compute, it's not the determining factor. We can afford to pay for the oil or tire but few can afford to pay for a driver. Most of my friends when I was in high school could change oil or change a tire

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Tony B
Maybe. But that doesn't excuse anything. Nor does it justify anything. A better question would be: Did you see a marked, measurable improvement in something after you did it? > Except that just the other day it took three passes on a machine at work for > CCleaner to find no more problems. WinXP.

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
I think most kids will learn how to use both - at home and with friends, not so important at school anymore. More important at school is learning how, why they work. For too many people, computers are magic, like cars. Therefore, when something behaves incorrectly, they have no clue. Do you

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Tony B : I can't recall seeing that happen since the old Win9x days. As I recall we had this discussion back then - to wit, if [this or that] registry cleaner is so great, why does it keep telling you more and more things need to be "cleaned"? Either that item needs to be cleaned or it d

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
My friends who are scientists at a large [unnamed] chemical company in Delaware were doing research using Macs. Then IT said they wouldn't support Macs any more. Wouldn't buy replacements when they requested more powerful computers. Everybody had to use Windows, even though the software they used

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/18/2009 12:29 PM, Tony B wrote: I can't recall seeing that happen since the old Win9x days. As I recall we had this discussion back then - to wit, if [this or that] registry cleaner is so great, why does it keep telling you more and more things need to be "cleaned"? Either that item needs t

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/18/2009 10:27 AM, tjpa wrote: My experience is quite the opposite. After cleaning the registry the PC starts up faster, the desktop draw faster, explorer windows appear faster, and there is a sweet fragrance in the air. I once had a Windows PC where files dragged into the trash would imme

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/18/2009 8:25 AM, Tony B wrote: Ya, ccleaner is the way to go (http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/). But note that, while you should probably have it installed anyway, "cleaning" your registry isn't likely to solve any system problems you may be having. I rarely ever run the registry

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It is limited. I have an Olympus digital voice recorder and it makes compressed WMA files. Audacity cannot open them. I can use Nero wav editor and edit them, but not audacity. Stewart At 09:44 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: Don't think audacity does batch conversions. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Stephen Brownfield
iTunes will convert .wav files to MP3. I do not know if Flip4Mac can convert or save a .wma as an MP3, but that that is where I'd look for that. Steve Bill L'Hommedieu wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote: OS? On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu wrote: I want t

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Don't think audacity does batch conversions. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Tony B wrote: > Don't forget the good open source audio editor Audacity. However, it > may be more trouble than you want just to convert a bunch of files. > But if you need to edit the files at all it's actually quite

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Tony B
Don't forget the good open source audio editor Audacity. However, it may be more trouble than you want just to convert a bunch of files. But if you need to edit the files at all it's actually quite good. * ** List info, subs

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Bill L'Hommedieu
On Dec 18, 2009, at 5:02 PM, mike wrote: OS? On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu wrote: I want to convert some .wma, .wav and au files to mp3. Any suggestions on a utility to get this done? Thanks. Bill L'Hommedieu 10.4.11 *

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
I thought you originally were in IT when you worked with mainframes? I was an art major in college. I took programming [Fortran--Cobol might have been better for Y2K] because it looked like plotting and drawing would eventually be done on computers, and because artists are independent busines

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Unless you buy an emulator and then buy another OS no it wont. At that point totally uneconomical. Stewart At 03:46 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: And you are still insisting that it won't run on a Mac? WFBs still living back in 1999. **

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread mike
On OS X I've only used SoX...but I hear mplayer is good. Google will guide your way.. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:05 PM, mike wrote: > If it's for windows, I use xilisoft... > > http://download.cnet.com/Xilisoft-Audio-Converter/3000-2140_4-10580994.html > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, mike

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Funny how the lefties like Tom who really *did* back stalin push him off on others... On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:54 PM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:23 PM, db wrote: > >> That is why OS's need to and will eventually get over their >> proprietaryness and look and work essentially the same.

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread mike
If it's for windows, I use xilisoft... http://download.cnet.com/Xilisoft-Audio-Converter/3000-2140_4-10580994.html On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:02 PM, mike wrote: > OS? > > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu > wrote: > >> I want to convert some .wma, .wav and au files to mp3. Any

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
You've already shown in the past you have no experience in this area, why continue to pretend you do? There was no version for OS X or Unix or Linux. The software costs were high, and it came with half a dozen in house support staff for implentation/training. I'm not talking about a ten user pr

Re: [CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread mike
OS? On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu wrote: > I want to convert some .wma, .wav and au files to mp3. Any suggestions on a > utility to get this done? Thanks. > Bill L'Hommedieu > > > > > > > > > * > ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:23 PM, db wrote: That is why OS's need to and will eventually get over their proprietaryness and look and work essentially the same. WFB paradise? WFBs dream of the day when Joe Stalin will rise again and command Soviet-style uniformity. Mac users will huddle in basem

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: But at present much specialized software is only available for Windows machines. And you are still insisting that it won't run on a Mac? WFBs still living back in 1999. ***

[CGUYS] Audio File Conversion

2009-12-18 Thread Bill L'Hommedieu
I want to convert some .wma, .wav and au files to mp3. Any suggestions on a utility to get this done? Thanks. Bill L'Hommedieu * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, c

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mike wrote: I'm talking about environments that use massive databases, RAID'd servers, hard enough to build something fast enough when it's local...cloud would be insane at this point. Running such on anything other than UNIX would be insane. Watching IT try to

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread mike
If their gains in the market is 'shooting themselves in the foot' God give me that kind of gun. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:56 PM, db wrote: > Yes "want" is involved but in a society where you are disadvantaged and > uncool etc to not compute, it's not the determining factor. > > We can afford to

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
Yes "want" is involved but in a society where you are disadvantaged and uncool etc to not compute, it's not the determining factor. We can afford to pay for the oil or tire but few can afford to pay for a driver. Likewise with a computer. Few can afford secretaries but they can afford to ha

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Faulty logic...we all know how to drive cars because we want to go places. Not because they are all the same. By this logic everyone should know how to change the oil or a tire...but they don't. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:46 PM, db wrote: > Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > >> I think most kids

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: I think most kids will learn how to use both - at home and with friends, not so important at school anymore. More important at school is learning how, why they work. For too many people, computers are magic, like cars. Therefore, when something behaves incorrectl

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
The young will learn both and as they do proprietary designs will become meaningless and disappear like vestigial organs. The power of proprietary designs is dividing the market for market share purposes. Once they don't accomplish that mission they are just an expense to be unnecessarily mai

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
I'm talking about environments that use massive databases, RAID'd servers, hard enough to build something fast enough when it's local...cloud would be insane at this point. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Stewart Marshall < revsamarsh...@earthlink.net> wrote: > What he is talking about and what

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
That is why OS's need to and will eventually get over their proprietaryness and look and work essentially the same. db phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Reid Katan wrote: And I suspect it'll be increasingly harder to find people who have *no* experience with co

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
People think completely differently and have patience and time for different kinds of things. I am constantly seeing hoards of people who are "in the ditch" with their computer as soon as anything departs from the narrow path they have for email, browsing, uploading their pics to the camera e

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread Stewart Marshall
What he is talking about and what the software vendors do not do is make the programs in Windows format. With the advent of cloud software this may become the truth. But at present much specialized software is only available for Windows machines. I know in my own situation much of our specia

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Right...just install that software you had built to run your million dollar business on that mac...oh wait it's windows only...hmm On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:55 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:20 PM, mike wrote: > >> There is also the fact of changing from windows to mac is huge and >> d

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:20 PM, mike wrote: There is also the fact of changing from windows to mac is huge and difficult MYTH! IT keeps insisting that everyone will have to learn to speak Swedish. Even when shown that the Mac works right out of the box they continue to blather on. ***

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Case in point of rabid mac fan bois... On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:20 PM, mike wrote: > >> I've been around enough IT managers and departments to know that this is >> not >> some huge conspiracy, it is only the mac faithful who believe they are >> locked

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:23 PM, mike wrote: The idea is that there is a massive web of interlocked registry items, depending on how adventurous you are will determine how deep you want to clean. Some registry cleaners will inform you that xx number of items are not linked to ANYTHING and can be

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread db
I thought you originally were in IT when you worked with mainframes? db b_s-wilk wrote: And it's not complicated for you... you have long been an IT who loves to learn this stuff. The fact that IT people think and expect everyone else to be like them is the big geek disconnect that the rest o

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com - Officers Warned of Flaw in U.S. Drones in 2004

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Watch out Tom, the wingnuts on your socialist side like Dean are screaming about voting down the HCR bill. And than there are the wingnuts in Russia who say their climate data was deleted from the reports...and those greedy bankers? Yah...the big O paid em off. On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:41 AM,

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 1:20 PM, mike wrote: I've been around enough IT managers and departments to know that this is not some huge conspiracy, it is only the mac faithful who believe they are locked out of business because of IT departments trying to secure jobs. This is ridiculous..I'm not sayi

Re: [CGUYS] WSJ.com - Officers Warned of Flaw in U.S. Drones in 2004

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 10:52 AM, Rev. Stewart A. Marshall wrote: Title: WSJ.com - Officers Warned of Flaw in U.S. Drones in 2004 Headline: Wingnuts Unite to Distract America from Health Care, Climate Change, and Greedy Bankers. *

Re: [CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread mike
I've been around enough IT managers and departments to know that this is not some huge conspiracy, it is only the mac faithful who believe they are locked out of business because of IT departments trying to secure jobs. This is ridiculous..I'm not saying it never happens, but it's not rampant. I've

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread mike
The idea is that there is a massive web of interlocked registry items, depending on how adventurous you are will determine how deep you want to clean. Some registry cleaners will inform you that xx number of items are not linked to ANYTHING and can be deleted, and xxx number MAY be linked to activ

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 11:55 AM, mike wrote: Do you lean towards a specific one? I have used several over the years, including a free one that M$ used to make available. They all seemed to do the job well enough. Currently I use Registry First Aid, which is not free.

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Tony B wrote: I can't recall seeing that happen since the old Win9x days. As I recall we had this discussion back then - to wit, if [this or that] registry cleaner is so great, why does it keep telling you more and more things need to be "cleaned"? Either that item n

[CGUYS] "Right" computer OS [was: [CGUYS] Consternation...]

2009-12-18 Thread b_s-wilk
phartz...@gmail.com escribió: And I suspect it'll be increasingly harder to find people who have *no* experience with computers. So I would expect that most would have enough experience to get *started* using a computer. But what is the "right" computer OS to learn? Should school systems te

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Tony B
I can't recall seeing that happen since the old Win9x days. As I recall we had this discussion back then - to wit, if [this or that] registry cleaner is so great, why does it keep telling you more and more things need to be "cleaned"? Either that item needs to be cleaned or it doesn't. It's absurd

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread mike
Do you lean towards a specific one? On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:27 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Tony B wrote: > >> But note that, while you should probably have it installed anyway, >> "cleaning" your registry >> isn't likely to solve any system problems you may be having. I rare

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I sometimes wear a tee shirt I got years ago from Sun that says, "No, I will not fix your computer" in bold lettering. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- And they rant and they rave about how awful the machine is. Not realizing it is something they did to make it behave that way.

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread Stewart Marshall
And they rant and they rave about how awful the machine is. Not realizing it is something they did to make it behave that way. I have that occur around me all the time. My simple answer is stop what you are doing. Unless you want to learn how to fix it yourself, stop the ranting and the ravi

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Range
On 12/18/2009 7:30 AM, Reid Katan wrote: Do you have a broken registry, or do you just want to tidy up a bit? Have you looked a Crap Cleaner? It'll tidy up without cost. I don't know that it'll fix a broken registry. It'll also do a bunch of other stuff. Sorry. Don't have a link, but The Goog

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I think most kids will learn how to use both - at home and with friends, not so important at school anymore. More important at school is learning how, why they work. For too many people, computers are magic, like cars. Therefore, when something behaves incorrectly, they have no clue. Thank you,

[CGUYS] WSJ.com - Officers Warned of Flaw in U.S. Drones in 2004

2009-12-18 Thread Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
*Please note, the sender's email address has not been verified. Here is the WSJ take on this whole subject. Stewart If you are having trouble with any of the links in this message, or if the URL's are not appearing as links, please follow the instructions at the bo

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:10 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: But what is the "right" computer OS to learn? Should school systems teach students to use Windows and associated software because that is what is preferred by most businesses? That seems to currently be the case as schools appear to be inc

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread tjpa
On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Tony B wrote: But note that, while you should probably have it installed anyway, "cleaning" your registry isn't likely to solve any system problems you may be having. I rarely ever run the registry cleaner, preferring to just let the old junk lie quietly where it do

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread mike
I suspect this is like anything..why can't they learn both? There are MUCH larger problems with our eduction system than which OS to learn. I'd much rather have them at a very young age begin to learn other languages, a more broadly based education in general will help them in many areas. On Fri

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Michael Wosnick
I use Wise Registry Cleaner (under Vista). They have a pay-for "pro" version and a totally free one. No obligation of the latter to the former. http://www.wisecleaner.com/download.html Another one you can check out that I have also used very easily and without problem is TweakNow http://www.tw

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Tony B
Ya, ccleaner is the way to go (http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/). But note that, while you should probably have it installed anyway, "cleaning" your registry isn't likely to solve any system problems you may be having. I rarely ever run the registry cleaner, preferring to just let the ol

Re: [CGUYS] Consternation over Computer Constipation (including Mac's) - help!

2009-12-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Reid Katan wrote: > And I suspect it'll be increasingly harder to find people who have *no* > experience with computers. So I would expect that most would have enough > experience to get *started* using a computer. But what is the "right" computer OS to learn?

Re: [CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Christopher Range : I need a freeware registry cleaner, THAT IS NOT going to tell me that I need to pay to repair the registry and/or, force me to buy some other product I don't need(which is a devious way of making someone pay for something that is claimed to be free). Do you have a b

[CGUYS] Freeware registry cleaner

2009-12-18 Thread Christopher Range
I need a freeware registry cleaner, THAT IS NOT going to tell me that I need to pay to repair the registry and/or, force me to buy some other product I don't need(which is a devious way of making someone pay for something that is claimed to be free). I asked on Yahoo Answers(BSOD question