Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-23 Thread Pat Fauquet
On Sep 22, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom there are just some points you never seem to get. I just read an article http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/18557/ that is an interesting read on the subject of Macs and small business. Pat

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-23 Thread gerald
this article is the biggest joke i have ever seen as an argument to put micks in to a biz app environment. 1. get the files transfered for free woopee 2.lepard is intuitive my wife has run OS's since before os existed(cpm), through all the xerox systems(alto,star,), windoz systems, . she

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-23 Thread Pat Fauquet
On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:33 PM, gerald wrote: this article is the biggest joke i have ever seen as an argument to put micks in to a biz app environment. 1. get the files transfered for free woopee This can be a big deal for someone switching. At the end of the exercise, their address book,

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-23 Thread Jeff Wright
I just read an article http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/18557/ that is an interesting read on the subject of Macs and small business. 1. Free, Fast File Transfer From Apple I agree, this is a good and useful service. Dell includes this as well, but of course, they don't have

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-23 Thread gerald
At 04:59 PM 9/23/2008, you wrote: On Sep 23, 2008, at 4:33 PM, gerald wrote: this article is the biggest joke i have ever seen as an argument to put micks in to a biz app environment. 1. get the files transfered for free woopee This can be a big deal for someone switching. At the end of the

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well thank you for proving my point, though I don't appreciate the crudity and am not quoting that part of your post. When you have to resort to crudity it is a good sign that your case is not a good one. You are only trying to squelch discussion. An organization that has to depend on

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Chris Dunford
You don't get to attribute quality using a 10,000,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong type of argument. I couldn't agree more, and yet that is exactly what you do, repeatedly. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread mike
The problem is you can't be happy! You just CAN'T be! It's not possible! You are in denial..that's it..denial. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Dell's all day long and am supremely happy with them. So what is the big deal? Why can't

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Snyder, Mark (IT CIV)
Stewart, I am more than happy to allow you to enjoy Windows, if you wish. I was merely making a point, not dissing anyone. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- I use Dell's all day long and am supremely happy with them. So what is the big deal? Why can't we just get along. (I

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
I use Dell's all day long and am supremely happy with them. So what is the big deal? I use Dells and Macs all day long. So what is the big deal indeed? You folks act like I don't know what a PC is. I know how to build them and I know how to program them. And I know how to avoid them too. But

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why is it impossible that there are actually people who don't mind...in fact prefer to use windows? Off topic. Nobody denies this. Think of the most peverse thing you can imagine. I won't deny that there are actually people who don't mind and in fact enjoy it. So what?

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Chris Dunford
You don't get to attribute quality using a 10,000,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong type of argument. I couldn't agree more, and yet that is exactly what you do, repeatedly. Not at all. Tom, you do this routinely. Just a couple of days ago: Zune is a loser because everybody buys iPods.

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread mike
Yer the king of off topic...so you'd know On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it impossible that there are actually people who don't mind...in fact prefer to use windows? Off topic. Nobody denies this. Think of the most peverse thing you can

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Matthew Taylor
On Sep 22, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Not always the case. I have a lot of stuff that is quite old and is still chugging along. So do I (and come to think of it so am I). ;^) Want a 386? Got one in my garage. No thanks - I did run one (under LINUX) up until a few

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread John DeCarlo
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:40 PM, mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get what? Why is it impossible that there are actually people who don't mind...in fact prefer to use windows? It is not impossible. No one said it was. In fact, it happens to be the case. Among those people who have tried 2,

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Jeff Wright
But overall, for many of us, seeing people use Windows is like seeing them spend money on lottery tickets. Often the ones who are doing either one can afford it the least. Gosh, I can't wait to try out those systems those smug and condescending fellows were talking about!

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread GK
I did not see the original post on this thread, but would like to add that there is a perception in micro business and nonprofit worlds that the learning curve from PC to Mac/Apple is large. As most of the incoming workforce and the volunteer base grew up on PCs, this may be another reason

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Another aspect of fear that I failed to mention. Thanks. A false belief BTW. I did not see the original post on this thread, but would like to add that there is a perception in micro business and nonprofit worlds that the learning curve from PC to Mac/Apple is large. As most of the

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, you do this routinely. Just a couple of days ago: Zune is a loser because everybody buys iPods. Remember? I know that you were paraphrasing Pogue, but why post that if you don't agree with the premise? This shows that you did not read what I wrote. This is what started the hullabaloo. I

Re: [CGUYS] Why Small business's and Non_profits buy PC's and W

2008-09-22 Thread Steve Rigby
On Sep 22, 2008, at 5:15 PM, GK wrote: I did not see the original post on this thread, but would like to add that there is a perception in micro business and nonprofit worlds that the learning curve from PC to Mac/Apple is large. As most of the incoming workforce and the volunteer base