Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia

2009-11-26 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: Some argue that Wikipedia’s troubles represent a new phase for the internet. Maybe, as some believe, the website has become part of the establishment that it was supposed to change. Were Twitter, Facebook, or Myspace

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia

2009-11-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Nov 25, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: That is what Fox and the rest of the denier community wants you to think, but it is not at all what the emails said. Unfortunately, this isn't the right place to discuss it. Fortunately Fox and the WSJ are soon to be walled off from reality

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia

2009-11-26 Thread t.piwowar
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Richard P. wrote: Wikipedia shows signs of stalling as number of volunteers falls sharply I'm not surprised. Wikipedia has matured and really does need fewer hands to maintain it. Meanwhile lots of new opportunities have emerged. Some of the new venues have

[CGUYS] Wikipedia

2009-11-25 Thread Richard P.
Not sure this is off-topic but is this a sign of the times: http://tinyurl.com/ygeo84p From The Times November 25, 2009 Wikipedia shows signs of stalling as number of volunteers falls sharply It was one of the internet’s most ambitious, radical and ultimately successful ideas. Eight years ago

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia

2009-11-25 Thread Chris Dunford
The recent news of the changing of climate data to fit what researches want instead of fact is in some ways similar That is what Fox and the rest of the denier community wants you to think, but it is not at all what the emails said. Unfortunately, this isn't the right place to discuss it.

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
OK as the resident theologian here on the list let me give you my interpretation and knowledge on this issue. Also a propos is the recent (widely attacked) speech by the Archbishop of Canterbury Civil and Religious Law in England. He points out that in order to expect tolerance from others it

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-19 Thread Fred Holmes
If you Google it you get the answer in the first item of the Google list of hits, without even having to go to the hit page. I'll bet some folks use it for a password? Fred Holmes At 09:00 PM 2/18/2008, Robert Michael Abrams wrote: There are ALREADY some 5,878,499,814,186.5 websites with

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
Should this be uniformly enforced Web wide? Should ICANN spawn ICANT? It is not just the Moslems. Latest news... WIKILEAKS.ORG DOWN AFTER EX-PARTE LEGAL ATTACK BY CAYMAN ISLANDS BANK http://88.80.13.160/wiki/Wikileaks.org_under_injunction

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
It is not just the Moslems. Latest news... And in today's news FireFox 3 Beta blocks sites that Google has identified as sources of malware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-19 Thread Matthew Taylor
www.microsoft.com? On Feb 19, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: And in today's news FireFox 3 Beta blocks sites that Google has identified as sources of malware. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Jeff Myers
Since all belief in a deity is irrational, religion invites extremism. So, I'm not sure hijacked is the right word. Jeff Myers -Original Message- From: Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: Re: Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I seem to remember seeing at least one of those images in Wikipedia of the Prophet in high school when we studied the worlds great religions. I think it was in a series of film strips my teacher really liked to use. On Feb 16, 2008 8:01 PM, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wikipedia, the

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, is refusing to remove medieval artistic depictions of the Prophet Muhammad, despite being flooded with complaints from Muslims demanding the images be deleted. http://tinyurl.com/2f9q7w We also have the recent story of a Muslim woman, working as a

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images o

2008-02-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Islam (to my limited understanding) has a fundamental objection to graven images and depictions of the Prophet seem to be the most egregious form of this. So does Judaism and Christianity: Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above... prohibits the construction or

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Jordan
I think that it is because the radicals of the Muslim religion make a lot of noise, and that the press simply repeats this noise, that we hear so much about it. I don't know how moderate Muslims feel about these images. I believe that people should not look at things they don't like. [EMAIL

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Jordan
I'm not sure I understand what you mean, but can't a fantasy be hijacked? Jeff Myers wrote: Since all belief in a deity is irrational, religion invites extremism. So, I'm not sure hijacked is the right word. * **

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So does Judaism and Christianity: Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above... prohibits the construction or fashioning of idols in the likeness of created things (beasts, fish, birds, people) and

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Hey everyone needs a target for Brick bats. :-) Stewart At 07:21 PM 2/18/2008, you wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So does Judaism and Christianity: Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above... prohibits the

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 08:57 AM 2/18/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't dispute your basic premise, however I think it's unfair to label those who are offended by the public display of these images as extremists. Islam (to my limited understanding) has a fundamental objection to graven images and depictions

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread katan
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:57:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imagine if Wikipedia were to display graphic images of sex acts on its home page. This may sound ludicrous, but to some Muslims, a graphic depiction of the Prophet is equally offensive. That *does* sound ludicrous. What's so offensive

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I don't know about offensive, but it does garner media interest. http://my.earthlink.net/article/str?guid=20080218/47b910d0_3ca6_1552620080218420090843 Stewart Make mine Red Rose At 10:54 PM 2/18/2008, you wrote: That *does* sound ludicrous. What's so offensive about sex acts? (-: Hey! I'm

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-17 Thread Jordan
There's an interview with Mark Seigel on Book TV right now and again at 9 pm and mid-night. A refreshing view of the Muslim world. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

[CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-16 Thread Steve Rigby
Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, is refusing to remove medieval artistic depictions of the Prophet Muhammad, despite being flooded with complaints from Muslims demanding the images be deleted. http://tinyurl.com/2f9q7w

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-16 Thread Tony B
The other year when the cartoon thing was an issue I asked one of our users to take down the image. I dunno, it just seems Islam is in a Very Bad Place right now, and, unlike the thousands of years when the Christians were in it, now they can do real *planetary* damage. On Feb 16, 2008 8:01 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-16 Thread Ranbo
Good for themthey have more courage and conviction than most of the media, who have been caving into these sort of religious demands. Randall On 2/16/08, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, is refusing to remove medieval artistic depictions

Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet

2008-02-16 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 05:01 PM 2/16/2008, Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wikipedia, the free online encyclopaedia, is refusing to remove medieval artistic depictions of the Prophet Muhammad, despite being flooded with complaints from Muslims demanding the images be deleted. http://tinyurl.com/2f9q7w