Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
This should be interesting to see the relationship between Apple and AT&T. Stewart At 08:36 PM 8/1/2009, you wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/01/ AR2009080101074.html "Right about now, Apple probably wishes it had never rejected Google Voice and related app

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-01 Thread Jeff Wright
> "The iPhone needs to be smashed open, and the FCC is swinging the > hammer. " Yes, I'm sure the FCC is much more knowledgeable about running Apple than Apple is. The question is whether or not the FCC can squint its way past 1934. I'm not holding my breath, since it still has commissioners [co

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 2:16 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Yes, I'm sure the FCC is much more knowledgeable about running Apple than Apple is. The question is whether or not the FCC can squint its way past 1934. I'm not holding my breath, since it still has commissioners [cough]Copps[/cough] who think

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jordan
TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 2, 2009, at 2:16 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Yes, I'm sure the FCC is much more knowledgeable about running Apple than Apple is. The question is whether or not the FCC can squint its way past 1934. I'm not holding my breath, since it still has commissioners [cough]Copps[/co

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> About the only thing that can get a radical right-wing Mac hater to > spring to the defense of Apple is the prospect of the people having a > say in the way things run. Radical right? Seriously? Oh right, that's to turn the mob against me, or it's the product of your one-dimensional world-vie

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> ... Mac hater... Yes, that must be why I want the FCC to piss off and Apple to do what it chooses to do with its own products. Brilliant deduction, Sherlock. And let's be perfectly clear about this: I don't hate Macs or Apple. Apple fleeces its customers with its profit margins, but its custo

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > It's Apple's user base that sucks, not its products.  An obnoxious, smug, > asinine, shun-worthy group if ever there was. Ouch! That hurt. Do you always paint with such a wide brush? The painter's union would not like that very much. Ho

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: I do, however, long for the day when the FCC building is converted to low-income housing. It'll at least do some good then. Then Rupert Murdoch could do to us what Berlusconi did to the Italians. You would love that. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Yes, that must be why I want the FCC to piss off and Apple to do what it chooses to do with its own products. Brilliant deduction, Sherlock. Baseball without umpires. Makes a lot of sense. About the only thing that could make it better would be

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> Baseball without umpires. Makes a lot of sense. About the only thing > that could make it better would be to let the players carry guns. That certainly would eliminate the designated hitter rule once and for all. * ** Lis

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> Ouch! That hurt. Do you always paint with such a wide brush? The > painter's union would not like that very much. I make sure that I use painters tape and a tarp so I can afford to use a wide brush. There are some Mac users who aren't complete zealots, they're actually decent to talk to, b

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 2, 2009, at 8:39 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: There are some Mac users who aren't complete zealots, they're actually decent to talk to, but you start getting into measuring that concentration at parts per million. The problem is really hugely insecure WFBs who are recently enflamed as M$

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > There are some Mac users who aren't complete zealots, they're actually > decent to talk to, but you start getting into measuring that concentration > at parts per million. Kinda like all those Windows users who tell me that they would love to

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-02 Thread Jeff Wright
> Kinda like all those Windows users who tell me that they would love > to switch to Macs but for the fact that they have too much money > already invested in Windows apps. Sunk costs is a reasonable ...er... reason for not investing in a new platform. Unlike Uncle Moneybags Piwowar, some of us

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: > Sunk costs is a reasonable ...er... reason for not investing in a new > platform. Actually, it is an understandable rationale for not shelling out for a new platform. Steve ***

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread Jordan
phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Sunk costs is a reasonable ...er... reason for not investing in a new platform. Actually, it is an understandable rationale for not shelling out for a new platform. But if money is limited, and who's i

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Jordan wrote: > But if money is limited, and who's isn't, a good argument can be made for > many people to stop pouring money into the moneypit that is Windows and the > disposable computers that people are lured into buying. A good point if a user is having pro

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 3, 2009, at 12:10 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Unlike Uncle Moneybags Piwowar, some of us have budgets and limited resources. We have to live within our means. An I owe all these riches to the increased productivity I get from my Macs. If I ran PCs I would have to add a staff person to do

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread Jeff Wright
> An I owe all these riches to the increased productivity I get from my > Macs. If I ran PCs I would have to add a staff person to do > maintenance or devote a large portion of my own time to maintenance > instead of going out to do billable work. My staff would also be > bogged down in Windows pro

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I can vouch for that. back when I worked support for a company (before the days of Windows) we supported Xenix/Novell-Lantastic enviroments. I worked hardware support which included OS/Hardware issues. Most of the support calls we got were not really OS Issues but issues with corruption of t

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread TPiwowar
On Aug 3, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Most of my help desk tickets revolve around printer/copier problems/replacing toner, data access, questions about various email situations or 3rd party software issues. I don't see any of that. My staff changes their own toner and the other stuff

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread Jeff Wright
> I don't see any of that. My staff changes their own toner and the > other stuff does not happen. Of course you don't. We work in completely different environments with completely different types of staffs. Mine's in the real world, BTW. > So you have proved my point. And you so often prove m

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-03 Thread Eric S. Sande
I don't see any of that. My staff changes their own toner and the other stuff does not happen. My staff changes their underwear daily and we pump out the bilges once a week. Oh yeah, we get free showers. :-) Ruling the Aegean sea since 480 BC

Re: [CGUYS] Finally an FCC that earns its keep

2009-08-05 Thread b_s-wilk
Jeff It's your job to provide IT/network support. Those of us with small businesses can't afford IT staff or outside services. The computers are tools that we use in our businesses and must work seamlessly with as little tech support as possible. That's why we use Macs, even when we're forced