.
And - since my conlang vocab is based largely on relexing the
proto-algonkian initials, medials and finals, using Cree or Michif to
gloss the new words actually was a lot easier than English! I really
haven't described much of the grammar however as most of the grammar is
largely in my mind. When
:
http://dedalvs.com/wasabi.html
I also created a language based on that experiment here:
http://dedalvs.com/kelenala/main.html
And a sign language based on that:
http://dedalvs.com/knsl/main.html
Here are some other logographic conlang orthographies:
http://dedalvs.com/kamakawi/orthography.html
,
well then, why is someone so determined to prevent us from doing it?
Experimenting with a new conlang ... (an east-european flavored
indo-european language)
Very basic grammar... Seems to work, still...
Wödroï nöw czoü wodr czek eczdi, as, siczdö, kur ?
Da, kur ? Ok, kum nöwimne czednie trowim
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From: Matthew Martin
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to approximate correspondence with
the art/enge distinction.)
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2b. Re: The Platonic fallacy (was: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Ling
Posted
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2011 1:25 pm ((PDT))
Hallo!
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 15:19:46 -0400, Matthew Martin wrote:
I think the relevant split is the goals of the language, especially with
regard to
how the language designers want to interact with fans, i.e. as co-conlang
creators, as a Zamenhoff-eque
by: Padraic Brown elemti...@yahoo.com
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2011 5:59 am ((PDT))
--- On Fri, 4/8/11, Matthew Martin matthewdeanmar...@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/But'n'Ben_A-Go-Go
The Scotts novel But'n'Ben A-Go-Go appears to fall on the
conlang continuum.
Imho, it's almost
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fallacy (was: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Ling
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4b. Re: The Platonic fallacy (was: Conlangs as Academic Evidence in Ling
From: Jim Henry
4c. Re: The Platonic fallacy
From: And Rosta
5. Conlang _langue_ and _parole_ (was: The Platonic fallacy
of the evolution of the
Hanoa?tsi system, inspired to some degree by Iroquoian.
To preface it, a little background: Hanoa?tsi is one of the descendants of my
(better-known) conlang Noyahtowa. Noyahtowa has five persons (first, second,
third, fourth or obviative, fifth or farther obviative), two numbers
Iroquoian genders a couple weeks back. My
conlang Hanoa?tsi develops genders very similiar to those of Mohawk, so the
list of typical Hanoa?tsi gender referents below can apply just as readily
to Mohawk/Iroquoian as to it, for those who are interested. The language
(like Mohawk) has four semantic
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2. Conlang Wikia
From
in an
oligosynthetic conlang?
There are people who are fluent in Toki Pona, which is oligoisolating.
Thus it seems probable that a similarly well-designed oligosynthetic
conlang would be similarly learnable and speakble.
As for whether an oligo-something language could evolve naturally, I
don't know
complete CFG parser.
Anyway, as I said, I've come to the conclusion that mathematical
simplicity =/= linguistic simplicity; coming up with a minimal set of
rules that's actually usable is quite a feat. On that score, I have
been intrigued by Soaloa and POP:
http://fiziwig.com/conlang/soaloa
and Evolution (Hanoa?tsi/Central Mountain)
From: J. Burke
6a. What's it called?
From: Roger Mills
6b. Re: What's it called?
From: Michael Everson
6c. Re: What's it called?
From: Eugene Oh
7a. Re: Conlang _langue_ and _parole_ (was: The Platonic fallacy
Posted by: Charlie caeruleancent...@yahoo.com
Date: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:48 pm ((PDT))
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Dale McCreery mccreery@... wrote:
I'm curious what different number classes you guys have seen or have
created in your conlangs.
Senjecas uses a vigesimal system
)
3.1. Re: Loss of phoneme inventory diversity over time?
Posted by: Charlie caeruleancent...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:52 am ((PDT))
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Dunn pwdunn@... wrote:
I still have a very hard time integrating clicks
don't know. There are tons of issues to work out
for any conlang, and I've preferred to focus on other matters; if, in the
future, someone figures out the Algic pronominal flip, I may go back and
devise a suitable explanation for Hanoa?tsi based on that.
I see. That is of course legitimate
. Anyway it's nice to meet you and I hope to hear from you often!
Justin Gagnon
On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Chris Curtis wrote:
Greetings! I've been lurking for a little while and decided to introduce
myself.
I've clearly been a language nut all my life. Conlang-wise... well,
this probably says
credit/fault and benefit/harm, I
noticed
that I would like to add this concept into my conlang. But I need some help to
interpret how it really works.
Jim Henry seems to have answered your question. The only answer I have
is that it works how you want it to work. :-)
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7
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--- On Thu, 4/21/11, Arthaey Angosii arth...@gmail.com wrote:
The Counting System thread has made
me dig up my notes on the
base-6/base-12 counting system for Lhenazi:
http://www.arthaey.com/conlang/lhenazi/lexicon/numbers.txt
Which
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may want to look in the archives of the CONLANG list for
discussions of Plan B; Jörg Rhiemeier said (in a message on Plan B
variations on 2010/3/5):
It is neither a loglan nor a loglang, only a relex of English
with a phonology that is both naive and bizarre, and a self-segregation
strategy
:
Incidentally, Rick Harrison's Plan B addresses this problem explicitly:
http://www.rickharrison.com/language/plan_b.html
Minor nit: Plan B was created by Jeff Prothero. Rick Harrison just
hosts it on his website.
Also, you may want to look in the archives of the CONLANG list for
discussions of Plan
.
In my conlang Moten, only the auxiliaries _atom_ (to be) and _agem_ (to
have) are conjugated (and even hardly, they have only three finite forms).
All other verbs are conjugated with periphrastic conjugations that combine
one of those two auxiliaries with one of the verbs' verbal nouns, declined
to one
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Posted by: David Peterson deda...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:51 pm ((PDT))
Hi Virginia!
When it comes to conlang introductions, I'd say one has to consider where one
is presenting. For the conlang list, it's best to introduce it in little
chunks
'.
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1.6. Re: On Cultural Differences in Color
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Date: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:00 am ((PDT))
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On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 11:36 AM, J. Burke rtoen...@yahoo.com wrote:
I asked for this, like, years ago; no one was interested at the time. But it
is a worthy project.
I've added this to the list of planned features of the conlang
documentation project
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2b. Re: LangFam-Making Program
Posted by: Daniel Nielsen niel...@uah.edu
Date: Mon May 2, 2011 10:15 am ((PDT))
I'd possibly be interested, if time allows, although it doesn't have much
use in my particular conlang project, and you'd likely have to walk me
through most
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be writing
into Conlang explaining some Latin phrase ;)
BTW I can see that _abassecrevit_ could be split as either
_Abas secrevit_ or the equally grammatical _ab asse crevit_;
but the possible meanings are so different it's takes a bit
of imagination to think of a context in which _ab asse
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plausible possible source for 1, 2 and 5 in a
conlang (for humanoids), I just can't master any idea about where the
names for other numbers may come from.
There is the observation that the native Japanese numbers for 2, 6 and 8
have the same consonants as those for 1, 3 and 4, but different vowels
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1e. Re: Verb Aspect and Infinitives
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2. FW: [CONLANG] Verb Aspect and Infinitives
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to create a language that has inhaled phonemes, I'm just
not sure what would be possible and if anything like this has ever existed.
Tell me anything you can add.
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of fun.
Thanks a lot to Christophe to host the conference in Groningen, and to David
and Sylvia for the organisation and the trip to Rightpondia.
Now I will probably try to continue work on that new conlang.
Tartartartarta,
Henrik
PS: The football or soccer or whatever fans I only saw
struck me
that conlanging and podcasts go together, but now they seem a perfect
match.
A guess the spoken conlang competition?
I'll look into free software later tonight
Thanks for the offer. My own voice isn't necesarily perfect for podcasting, so
I wouldn't have such a
problem with other
frequently
enough, why not publish this podcast via the LCS one? I'm pretty sure David
would not have a problem with that, and people wouldn't have to discover a
new address to get that podcast of yours. An alternative is just to add your
podcast to the Conlang blog roll.
I'm not sure
: Choose a conlanging topic to discuss each week. Should be
general topics involving construction, promotion, use, aquisition, etc., or
maybe something about conlanging subculture. Possible topic ideas: getting
started conlanging, using conlangs in fiction, learning to speak your
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20, 2011 11:03 am ((PDT))
Maybe the van Steenbergen Hexagon is best conceptualized as a radar
chart, where a given conlang can be profiled along six independent
typological axes?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_chart
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 21:44:03 -0400
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On May 21, 2011, at 3◊48 AM, Philip Newton wrote:
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 02:03, David Peterson deda...@gmail.com wrote:
A few years back, I came across a book in Barnes Noble that was a teach
yourself guide for a conlang
. It was, rather, a
sketch to see if such a language were possible.
I'd not see the (b) numbers (or logarithms thereof, more probably, if
we refine this system enough to start assigning specific figures) as
maxima, but as minima. A conceptual testbed conlang like AllNoun or
Ithkuil doesn't need speakers
Hexagon
From: Daniel Bowman
6a. Re: Fwd: [LCS] Conlang on Stack Exchange
From: Christophe Grandsire-Koevoets
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From: Philip Newton
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was not really
about conlang classification it's possibly a tad frustrating
that the Hexagon is what's sparked off a thread on this
list ;)
Hehe, not at all! I quite like having discussions on this particular subject. :)
This, I think, is the source of the problem. Because the
Van
are in some way very expressive.
Can't tell how that works, but it does.
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copying one or more
existing languages. So I was wondering if you guys had any advice on how to
approach preposition creation in a conlang, or could direct me towards an
appropriate resource. Thanks!
You might find this helpful:
http://www.eskimo.com/~ram/lexical_semantics.html#S2_5_5
http
to approach creating prepositions without just copying one or more
existing languages. So I was wondering if you guys had any advice on how to
approach preposition creation in a conlang, or could direct me towards an
appropriate resource. Thanks!
You might find this helpful:
http://www.eskimo.com
myself. I started conlanging in middle
school, although my first attempt at a conlang was basically just a (very
limited) new set of vocabulary with entirely English grammar, phonology,
etc.
Then I stopped for many years, until a little over three years ago when I
was very frustrated by the fact
not (and
probably does not) consider them as conlangs in the
sense that we normally use the word. Nor do I; nor, as
far as I can see, do they figure in David Peterson's
Conlang Manifesto.
Perhaps not. But I'm trying to think outside the box a
bit.
That's fine and probably made many of us
to know Elvish and
translates it for everyone. And it seems that he has never met up with
another conlanger, so I think he would have had little use for such a word
anyway.
(May I use this opportunity to remark that I find 'conlang' a very ugly word?)
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this library/template, or a string of code.
In the light of that, the conlanging project, the thing that is misleading
for me are the answers. Because according to my (quite little) experience
from conlang mailing list, the questions are mostly the how to ones, and
there are pretty many options
between auxlang and conlang, then perhaps Tolkien's influence can
be discounted.
Padraic
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1.2. Re: Glossopoeia (was: van Steenbergen Hexagon)
Posted by: Padraic Brown elemti
is a language that grew out of centuries of
*unplanned* linguistic evolution. The adoption of a
conlang by a community as the first language to be passed
down to their children (so far hasn't happened, unless one
counts Ivrit as a conlang, but it *could* happen) doesn't
yet make that conlang a natlang
the first use of
'auxlang'? That must surely have been coined on Conlang
list too, unless in that instance too the listname
created the term.
Good point - I hadn't, but I ought to if I want to get things as accurately
as possible. I guess it was coined on the Conlang list before the great
sundering
Latin alphabet-using Slavic languages
that represent the sound /ts/ with the letter 'c'?
Northern Saami. Also Ä = /tS/, z = /dz/ and ž = /dZ/.
My conlang Knaske /'knQSkE/ has/had c = /ts/, czh = /ts_h/,
ch = /x/, cs = /tS/, csh = /tS_h/, consciously based on
Hungarian even in the imaginary
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2a. Re: Long Short Vowels and Stress
Posted by: Roger Mills romi...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:58 pm ((PDT))
--- On Thu, 6/2/11, Scott Hlad scott.h...@telus.net wrote:
I have two words in my new conlang. 'Trikim' which means
thirty
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2011-06-02 20:40, Scott Hlad skrev:
My conlang Knaske /'knQSkE/ has/had c = /ts/, czh = /ts_h/,
My gjâ-zym-byn uses c for /ts/; its original orthography was based
on that of Esperanto
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4.1. Re: Sorting ash (was: Re: sorting thorn
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are some quick and
unrefined thoughts to get discussion going:
Some celebratory translation challenge? A relay of some text
specifically about the founding of the Conlang list (perhaps in heroic
drama form)? Or perhaps we could all write some sort of short heroic
drama format text (anything from
coming up
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From: Rich Harrison
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From: Peter Bleackley
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, by your grace.
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From
1e. Re: Non-human Features
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From: R A Brown
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As prepositions, not adverbs, and makes a very strong case for it.�So
the Wikipedia article is wrong, if Pullum is to be taken as
authoritative, which leaves inside as noun, preposition and
adjective.
Petty? Pedantic? On a conlang list?
Hello and welcome Jason.
This provides good context for me to say
pronouns?
Posted by: Charlie caeruleancent...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:45 am ((PDT))
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Miles Forster m3o@... wrote:
For the 3rd person it is either /Zu/ Person, or any other word that
describes what one is talking about, e.g. Teacher, when talking
to personal pronouns. AFAIK, modern Japanese
pronouns were formed this way, making something like Your humble servant
into a genuine I.
On 06/16/2011 10:35 AM, Charlie wrote:
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Miles Forsterm3o@... wrote:
For the 3rd person it is either /Zu/ Person, or any other
from A child is
with love..
(Please don't think that /mZa/ is a verb, it really is not. Also,
questions regarding this particular sentence might lead astray from
the original discussion on pronouns.)
That isn't necessarily a problem. Here at Conlang Central, we look at a
lot of sentences
rather just have the familiar -- but I do like thinking about
interesting channels, and interesting correspondences or interactions
between channels. Here, for instance, is a proof-of-concept map from ASL to
speech that I designed once:
http://24.org/conlang/ASL-spoken.html
My langs with Sai
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1a. Conlang in the womb!
From: Miles Forster
2a. Senjecas Oblique Cases (was: A verbless language)
From: Charlie
3.1. Re: Gestures (was: Non-human Features)
From: Padraic Brown
4a. Re: My Newest Conlang
Languages
From: Matthew Martin
3a. Re: My Newest Conlang, Çideaux
From: Cullen Kain
3b. Re: My Newest Conlang, Çideaux
From: Matthew Martin
3c. Re: My Newest Conlang, Çideaux
From: Cullen Kain
3d. Re: My Newest Conlang, Çideaux
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this is not strictly conlang, an offlist response is fine
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the Bible (or any large document) into
Newspeak. Not for any feature of Newspeak other than
it is just a sketch for an idea of a conlang!
You can't do it with Quenya/Sindarin and the attested
grammar and vocabulary either. I don't think that it
should matter at all how deeply a language
database access, so Ive been trying
Google (Since this is not strictly conlang, an offlist response is fine
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On 26 June 2011 00:06, Rebecca Bettencourt beckie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 7:30 PM, yuri yur...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Conlangers,
I'm new to the list. I started creating my own conlang about 15 years
ago but it got put on the backburner. I'm
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--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Philip Newton philip.newton@... wrote:
I seem to recall hearing that it's ar-Rab. (Cognate with Hebrew
rabbi = my lord, no doubt.)
I just phoned the pastor of the Maronite parish in Roanoke, VA, and asked him
about this. Philip is correct. Rab is used
Mills
2a. Re: Resources on Phonology
From: Nikolay Ivankov
3a. Re: Conlang Recognition Survey
From: Adam Walker
3b. Re: Conlang Recognition Survey
From: Mechthild Czapp
3c. Re: Conlang Recognition Survey
From: Philip Newton
3d. Re: Conlang Recognition Survey
: Jörg Rhiemeier
2b. Re: Tre-mang
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2c. Re: Tre-mang
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3a. Conlang for Speech to Text engines?
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3b. Re: Conlang for Speech to Text
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1a. Re: English verbs loaned from the Latin past participle
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2a. Sources for vowel quantity distinctions?
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3a. Re: Conlang
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1a. Base-6 Number System (Count to 35 on 2 hands!)
Posted by: Sam Weston stwes...@gmail.com
Date: Wed Jul 6, 2011 6:31 am ((PDT))
Hello, all; this is my first post to Conlang-L, so please be nice. =D
I've recently been considering making a timeline for my
a sketched conlang that is supposed to be naturalistic, and it does
exactly that: masculine :: feminine :: epicene, in pronouns and agreement.
Every excuse helping to save the project will be used ;)
-- Basilius
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only a sketch - certainly not what I was thinking of.
I had some feeling that there was at least one worked-out
conlang that used such a system
Or, more likely IMO, Jim Henry III with gjâ-zym-byn (as
was also mentioned earlier in the thread).
That's much more likely!
I must confess that I
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From: Sai
1.12. Re: OT: My full legal name is now Sai. W00t!
From: Padraic Brown
1.13. Re: OT: My full legal name is now Sai. W00t!
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2a. Re: Ceqli
From: Rex May
2b. Re: Ceqli
From: Rex May
3.1. Re: Why I conlang, was Re: OT: My full legal name is now Sai
!)
From: Padraic Brown
3a. Re: The Strange Case of the Donative
From: R A Brown
4a. Re: Conlang 20th Anniversary meetup July 18th (ish)
From: Alex Fink
4b. Re: Conlang 20th Anniversary meetup July 18th (ish)
From: Alex Fink
5a. Re: Another Pronoun Question
From: Alex
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