[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Neal Schlein via Contra Callers
It is absolutely more disorienting. The swing is one of very few moves (if not the only one) in which people may or may not change set position based on which role they are dancing/used to dancing and where they started the move from as a standard matter. It is also executed differently based on w

[Callers] Re: What are your favorite “style points?”

2024-07-17 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
How to Whirl a Butterfly The prep calls, annotated: Larks allemande left 1x or 1.5x (ok.) Pick up your partner for a star promenade halfway (yay! I'm with my partner!) When you reach the other side, release left hands for a butterfly whirl with your partner (internal groaning) The standard butter

[Callers] Re: What are your favorite “style points?”

2024-07-17 Thread Abigail Sorg via Contra Callers
I'd love to hear some specifics of how people word these messages to the dancers! - Julian's note about No/loose thumbs - I've described this as pretending you have hands like a Lego minifig, just a sort of gentle curve to the hand to allow for reliable connection that be easily escaped, not sure h

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
Is it really any more disorienting to have a shadow change in a dance with a shadow swing vs., say, an allemande or another move? --jh-- On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 6:08 PM Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Re: partners swapping during shadow

[Callers] Re: What are your favorite “style points?”

2024-07-17 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
How to offer, follow, or refuse an underarm twirl. (Related) The medical reason (adhesive capsulitis) never to force someone's elbow above their shoulder (nor, really, to force anything at all, but this explanation has very high convincing power). Never grab. Hand positions for allemandes, box/swa

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
Re: partners swapping during shadow dances and confusing their respective shadows (I think of it as Peter Pan-ing, on account of our shadows coming detached)… I appreciate events where there are designated chaos lines so those who are in the mood for them can indulge to their hearts’ content. I sup

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Mary Collins via Contra Callers
# 2. No problem, but rarely call As dancer - meh...biggest issue is when there is suddenly a new shadow due to dancers joining late or some other mix. As I age I find I get disoriented when my point of reference suddenly changes. I imagine, for a new dancer who has been told this person, your shad

[Callers] Re: What are your favorite “style points?”

2024-07-17 Thread Julian Blechner via Contra Callers
Good hand placement on swings No/loose thumbs Flourishes are optional How to accept or decline a basic Twirl Looking at the other dancer even if no eye contact Opportunities for eye contact - especially in dances where you can connect and one role follows the other without contact Looping wid

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Julian Blechner via Contra Callers
Echoing thoughts from: Jeff K Don V Jerome G Gabrielle T I'll add: they DO have a good use: special events where you have a themed shadow session. In dance, Julian Blechner He/Him Western Mass On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 5:04 PM Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wro

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers
I have a few shadow swing dances in my collection. I don't know why I keep them because I don't call them. There is a history of problem dancers (PDs) in my area who are typically male presenting, and robins complain that these people stalk them, both in the dance hall and outside, hold them too c

[Callers] What are your favorite “style points?”

2024-07-17 Thread Harris Lapiroff via Contra Callers
I’m trying to add more style points to my teaching. What are some of your favorite brief style or safety tips to deliver from the mic? Ones that are relevant to specific sequences, general tips, for beginners, or for experienced dancers, I’m interested in any and all of them! Harris Lapiroff D

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Amy Larkin via Contra Callers
I used to love the shadow dances where we'd suddenly wind up with a completely different shadow! Amy On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 1:06 PM Gabrielle Taylor via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I recently danced in two dances with shadow swings, one at NEFFA and one > at the

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Jim Thaxter via Contra Callers
I don’t call them much because I only have one or two dances of that type in my box, and I usually pass them by for more interesting dances. I agree with Joe Harrington about inclusiveness and “service” dances. Don’t we all? Or don’t we. If there are people with whom you don’t want to swing, mayb

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Amy Larkin via Contra Callers
Chances may be better than even one gets a shadow one likes a lot! Amy On Wed, Jul 17, 2024, 1:52 PM Joe Harrington via Contra Callers < contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Solid B. As a dancer I love them. They happen so rarely that they’re a > treat. Are there really all that many pe

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
Solid B. As a dancer I love them. They happen so rarely that they’re a treat. Are there really all that many people I actively DON’T want a swing with? No. Sure, I enjoy swinging with some more than others. But, I probably do 50x as many “service dances” (as in, no, I didn’t really want to dance w

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Gabrielle Taylor via Contra Callers
I recently danced in two dances with shadow swings, one at NEFFA and one at the experienced ("zesty") dance in Boulder, CO. In both dances, it seemed like spending so much time with the shadow wound up making dancers more confused, since if anyone got switched around then the dancers would worry

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Joseph Erhard-Hudson via Contra Callers
I’m a former B) who has recently shifted to C) on account of such conversations as you mention. For analogous reasons I have learned to always forewarn when I’m calling a mixer, particularly one that involves changing partners. -Joseph *Sent from my phone, which has odd ideas about formatting so

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Jerome Grisanti via Contra Callers
When the choreography calls for a right-hand allemande with a shadow (or neighbor, either same-role or opposite-role), I may mention in the second walk through that if you're comfortable turning that allemande into a swing, you're welcome to do so. This presumes the flow to the next move wouldn't

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Don Veino via Contra Callers
C. Unless there were a truly compelling reason in the choreo (which I've not encountered to date). I've heard it described as swinging a partner you don't get to choose. To a lesser degree but similar in property is a trail buddy swing in a 4F4. There you may have some arguable choice, and typica

[Callers] Re: Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers
1: When I used to call, a weak C. It's too much interaction for someone you don't choose. 2: I personally don't have strong feelings, but I know other people who find it stressful and are worried about getting paired with someone they don't get on with well. Jeff On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 10:39 A

[Callers] Shadow Swings?

2024-07-17 Thread Maia McCormick via Contra Callers
Prompted by some recent conversations, I’m curious how folks here feel about shadow swings! 1. As a caller, do you: A) not have an issue with shadow swings, and program them freely B) not tend to program them just bc they don’t come up in your repertoire, but have no issue with them C) not program