Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 2001.02.03 06:50:13 +0400 Mike Reid wrote: > What > > about making all the documentation (or at least most of it) optional, > in > > that each package provides the documentation in a -doc subpackage? > > could you elabrate more on this idea See apache rpm : you got apache itself in apache rp

[Cooker] 1.403 - install

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Hi /ChangeLog/1.403/Sat Feb 3 00:42:20 2001// Linux-Mandrake Cooker-i586 20010202 19:00 When in choose packages, only few were highlited, although I clicked on everyone this was not registered. When going back everything was as usual and loaded fine. My rtl8139 was found but could not be

[Cooker] is something wrong with mandrake CVS?

2001-02-02 Thread jorgp69
I cannot connect to the cvs site. I get connection timed out. CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/cvs/cooker this has been working fine for a while, it stopped working yesterday. Jorg

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Matt Morrison wrote: > Any help would be much > appreciated, as this is as much an excercise to teach myself PHP than > anything else. > > Good luck. I love evolution, especially when it is creating new flowers. Wish I could help, I used Modula2 as a hobby some 15 years ago and have now bo

Re: [Cooker] is cooker in code freeze?

2001-02-02 Thread Prana
Nope.. it's not in freeze.. Read below: Original Message Subject: Re: Mandrake Cooker frozen already?? Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:32:56 -0700 On Thu Feb 01, 2001 at 11:14:56PM -0700, Prana wrote: > It's me Prana. Is Mandrake Cooker already in the frozen state today? I > tried to

[Cooker] is cooker in code freeze?

2001-02-02 Thread jorgp69
Lots of filesets have not been updated lately? And it seems lately only certain filesets get updated. To name a few: parted HTML::Mason Apache Apache::ASP gnucash kernel 2.4.1 kde (all modules) syslinux (still using 1.4.8??) linuxconf mod-ssl aspell ispell wine inn db3 util-linux gnome-telnet lso

Re: [Cooker] bad language control in cooker

2001-02-02 Thread Matt Morrison
>matt wrote: >Upgrading all the locale packages >should do the trick, if that indeed is what the problem is. >--- >upgrade locale from where?? Will my cheapbytes set have the corect >packages or do i need to install from the cooker tr

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Matt Morrison
>She asked if there was programs that presented man in html and I said >that I thought so. Then she said why isn't it used automatically, is >this some tribal rite you unix fantasist must undergo when you learn new >things. Speaking of which... I'm currently starting a project on sourceforge cal

[Cooker] rpm won't install some rpm packages

2001-02-02 Thread Richard -Gilligan- Uschold
I'm having problems installing a number of rpm packages. Can't install these: Guppi-0.35.2-1.i586.rpm glibc-2.2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm glibc-devel-2.2.1-3mdk.i586.rpm bonobo-0.33-2mdk.i586.rpm rpm error message: "only packages with major numbers <=3 are supported by this version of RPM" NOTE: this is no

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Mike Reid
What> about making all the documentation (or at least most of it) optional, in> that each package provides the documentation in a -doc subpackage?   could you elabrate more on this idea mike reid - Original Message - From: guran Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Robert L Martin
here is the biggest part of the problem. In KDE the app kppp half of the documentation is "to be done" in a 2.0 release! What needs to happen is hackers need to think about programing for morons even to the point of in a compile the bare Make command should compile EVERYTHING. Yes Docs for console

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Alexander Skwar wrote: What > about making all the documentation (or at least most of it) optional, in > that each package provides the documentation in a -doc subpackage? Excellent idea. If you want to have a firewall on an old machine, this could be of help. regards guran

Re: [Cooker] bad language control in cooker

2001-02-02 Thread Robert L Martin
matt wrote: Upgrading all the locale packages should do the trick, if that indeed is what the problem is. --- upgrade locale from where?? Will my cheapbytes set have the corect packages or do i need to install from the cooker tree. Ro

[Cooker] unix sockets

2001-02-02 Thread J . A . Magallon
Hi, Little question about a harmless error. When I try to run any gnome app, I get a message like "Can't resolve host name "unix"!". Whats that ? Can not create local unix sockets ? -- J.A. Magallon $> cd pub mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

R: [Cooker] conflicts

2001-02-02 Thread Alberto Vorano
Thank you , Seb, but it isn't a choice of mine: some packages before claim they need some qt, some other qt2. I have tried --force option and, for what I tested till now, it seems to work Best regards Alberto - Original Message - From: Sebastian Dransfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Alberto Vo

[Cooker] DrakX #1.403 uploaded

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
News from DrakX: (oups forgot that one) - pcmcia *may* now work in hd/cdrom installs (was already working for nfs/ftp via pcmcia) - the bad /tmp/disk mountpoint for hd installs is fixed (since 1.402) (was causing the rm -rf of data at first boot if you used clean /tmp option) - the formatting o

[Cooker] DrakX #1.403 uploaded

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
News from DrakX: - the bad /tmp/disk mountpoint for hd installs is fixed (since 1.402) (was causing the rm -rf of data at first boot if you used clean /tmp option) - the formatting of reiserfs is fixed since a few time now - if you have packages that ``should'' not be installed installed, tell

[Cooker] install crashing and kernel 2.4

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
It seems like very wrong is happening with 2.4 kernels. With the 2.2 kernel, during an FTP install on a 64MB box, around 24MB of memory is free at beginning of install: 22MB: stage2 in ramdisk 2MB: stage1 in initrd (ramdisk) 11MB: runinstall2 (perl processus for DrakX) 2MB: X server - 37MB

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, is this idea dismissed? Although I don't like it if it were, I can live > with it... for big documentation it is done. the worse being tetex of course. for base packages i've taken care of spliting them. for other packages that you think the do

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Alexander Skwar
So, is this idea dismissed? Although I don't like it if it were, I can live with it... Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an L

[Cooker] initscripts

2001-02-02 Thread J . A . Magallon
Hi. Just to notice a little annoying bit. Everytime I update initscripts my chkconfig gets reset to defaults. I have to disable again usb, netfs, etc Perhaps it sould not touch existing runlevel config ? -- J.A. Magallon $> cd pub mailto:

[Cooker] Re: Install dutch

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > When i try to use the dutch install (want to check the keyboard) it crashes. we are currently looking at this, but no real clue yet. Seems like the kernel 2.4 has some pbs :'-(

[Cooker] Install dutch

2001-02-02 Thread andre
When i try to use the dutch install (want to check the keyboard) it crashes.

[Cooker] forgive me - test

2001-02-02 Thread Alexander Skwar
Sorry, test - I'm getting 0 byte messages from cooker - anyone else also? Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (german) http://quote.6x.to (english) Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com | http://www.iso-top.de iso-top.de - Die guenstige Art an Linux Distribut

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread andre
> > While we're at documentations. The other day I had to copy /usr to some > place else. While doing so, I noted how very large /usr/share/doc is. Yes, > this is definitely a good thing, and yes I understand guran's problems, but > I'm not gonna comment on them here. what about a index-page

Re: [Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Okay, after I realised that it is indeed very huge, I got an idea. What > about making all the documentation (or at least most of it) optional, in one solution is to put %_excludedocs 1 in /etc/rpm/macros. The rpm database will be aware of it and

[Cooker] Making documenation optional?

2001-02-02 Thread Alexander Skwar
While we're at documentations. The other day I had to copy /usr to some place else. While doing so, I noted how very large /usr/share/doc is. Yes, this is definitely a good thing, and yes I understand guran's problems, but I'm not gonna comment on them here. Okay, after I realised that it is i

Re: [Cooker] Building cooker isos w/ mkcd.pl

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
"Todd Richmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 3) mdkinst_stage2 and rescue_stage2 are now bz2 files instead of gz. Is there > anything else missing in this list(other bz2 files in the same directory)? nope, only those 2 changed

[Cooker] Building cooker isos w/ mkcd.pl

2001-02-02 Thread Todd Richmond
I had a few problems attempting to build cooker ISOs using mkcd.pl and want to know if this is known, fixed or otherwise. This is my first attempt using today's mirror from sunsite   1) mkcd.pl does not use the perl binary and lib  in the mirror directories. I had to copy one .pm file(can't r

[Cooker] [RPM] gnews-0.0.5-1mdk

2001-02-02 Thread Guillaume . Rousse
What do you want to package today ? --- Name: gnewsRelocations: (not relocateable) Version : 0.0.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: ven 02 fév 2001 23:44:19 RET Install date: (not insta

RE: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Stew Benedict
I'm new on the team, but I agree. Pulling all the various Linux documentation into one comprehensive library would be a very good thing. Like you, I came up the ranks from Slackware, etc., and I know where to look, but for newcomers, the amount of "stuff" on a typical Linux installation can be o

Re: [Cooker] SIS

2001-02-02 Thread Kevin Franden
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:32:46 +0100 (CET) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (andre) writes: > I have still the problem that my 6326AGP sis doesn't come up > correctly. Does anybody know how to correct this > > I have a similar problem w/ an on-board card w/ the SiS 620 chipset. I have found that if I use 120x768

RE: [Cooker] login delay

2001-02-02 Thread Valdas Andrulis
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Eaon wrote: > > So sprach Valdas Andrulis am Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 01:11:48PM +0200: > > > I have noticed, that previously when someone entered incorect username > > > or password during login, there was the delay before another login > > > prompt. And now (I think this happen

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Okay, thanks for the nice argumentation, I fully support his nice demand on a central for all documentation. regards guran

[Cooker] 1.402 - hd.img install

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Hi /ChangeLog/1.402/Fri Feb 2 14:41:27 2001// Linux-Mandrake Cooker-i586 20010202 12:15 Thanks Pixel for /mnt/hd, I feel more secure now. Installed everything, no hard disk opt. and no supermount. Boot disk okay. rejected but later manually installed: glibc-devel-2.2.1-6 python-2.0-2 wget

Re: [Cooker] amd is not started anymore

2001-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Lee
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 05:33:41PM +0100, Pixel wrote: > Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:10:14AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: > > > Somehow, I can't have amd started at boot time: > > > > > > # chkconfig --list amd > > > amd 0:off 1:off 2:off

Re: [Re: [Cooker] amd is not started anymore]

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Quel Qun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The service in enabled on levels 2 to 5. Why is it different for amd? Why do I > have to manually enable each level? This is just a pain. use "chkconfig --level 35 amd on", but i agree it's ugly & stupid the difference between amd and usb services is the

Re: [Cooker] KDM ignores /usr/share/config/kdmrc

2001-02-02 Thread Eric MC.D
Jürgen Zimmermann wrote: > > Despite the modifications made to KDM´s configuration file > (see attachment), KDM shows all users (sympa...), but only the session > types "default, kde, failsafe". > > Moreover, it replies to XDCMP broadcast requests and allows > a login from other than local XServ

Re: [Re: [Cooker] amd is not started anymore]

2001-02-02 Thread Quel Qun
Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:10:14AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: > > Somehow, I can't have amd started at boot time: > > > > # chkconfig --list amd > > amd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off > > # chkconfig --add amd > > # chkconfi

RE: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Don Head
> Let us stop this for now. > > When I quoted my daughter I did it because I thought it > was witty, not because I thought that she formulated an > eternal truth. > >> From her remarks as a complete newcomer to Linux, I >> thought that something good or pedagogic could be >> extracted. I assumed

Re: [Cooker] amd is not started anymore

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:10:14AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: > > Somehow, I can't have amd started at boot time: > > > > # chkconfig --list amd > > amd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off > > # chkconfig --add amd > > # chkcon

[Cooker] mkcd.pl update

2001-02-02 Thread jorgp69
mkcd.pl needs to be updated to reflect stage2 and rescue are now a bz2 files instead of a gz files. Jorg

Re: [Cooker] Install Crash (network...)

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Michel PRILLOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Houtch... NO /proc/array directory !!! > But in /proc/driver/array, file 'ida0' that contain: ok, location changed in new kernel, fixing install, should be ok in drakx 1.403 (when uploaded)

Re: [Cooker] amd is not started anymore

2001-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Lee
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:10:14AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: > Somehow, I can't have amd started at boot time: > > # chkconfig --list amd > amd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off > # chkconfig --add amd > # chkconfig --list amd > amd 0:off 1:off 2:off

[Cooker] amd is not started anymore

2001-02-02 Thread Quel Qun
Somehow, I can't have amd started at boot time: # chkconfig --list amd amd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off # chkconfig --add amd # chkconfig --list amd amd 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off # /etc/init.d/amd start Starting amd:

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Hi Let us stop this for now. When I quoted my daughter I did it because I thought it was witty, not because I thought that she formulated an eternal truth. >From her remarks as a complete newcomer to Linux, I thought that something good or pedagogic could be extracted. I assumed that any other

[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] apache-1.3.14-4mdk

2001-02-02 Thread Jürgen Zimmermann
How about apache-1.3.17???

[Cooker] Problem with PPPOE

2001-02-02 Thread Mike Hyde
I have found 3 problems that will need to be fixed for the final version. 1) During the installer, you can not setup your DSL connection. I manually install the package, but during network setup, if you click on DSL it fails and continues with the install 2) Once everything is installed, I foun

Re: [Cooker] Install Crash (network...)

2001-02-02 Thread Michel PRILLOT
Le Vendredi 02 Février 2001 12:42, vous avez écrit : > Michel PRILLOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > <6> cpqarray Finding drives on ida0 (SMART-2SL) > > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d0: blksiz=512 nr_blks=8380320 > > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d1: blksiz=512 nr_blks=8380320 > > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d2: blksiz=512 nr

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 2001.02.02 16:01:41 +0400 guran wrote: > Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > Dont insert this if you don't want to quote anything of my post. > I don't think this is for real. Everybody on this list seems to have > signed a document stating that it is not allowed to post anything that > is not bowin

Re: [Cooker] rfc - cooker

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > i really don't understand where this pb comes from, but i'm going to > > My guess is that it might come from a variable defined 'within' the ram > disk. good guess! this bloody guillaume changed /tmp/hdimage to /tmp/disk without even telling in his new mdk

Re: [Cooker] rfc - cooker

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Pixel wrote: > > i really don't understand where this pb comes from, but i'm going to My guess is that it might come from a variable defined 'within' the ram disk. > > 3: Move the hard drive optimization to a harddrake module named This comes from a discussion on cooker about how to optimi

Re: [Cooker] rfc - cooker

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > 1: May we have the mirror partition moved back to /mnt/hd after hd > install. i really don't understand where this pb comes from, but i'm going to take care of it ASAP. the code still contains: $part->{mntpoint} ||= "/mnt/hd"; and does not conta

Re: [Cooker] Internation characters gone again...

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
"Mattias Dahlberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > A few days ago I was happy to see that DrakX finally showed all the "åäö":s > in the Swedish alphabet. Now they're gone again... This is with 1.401. > Unfortunately I don't remember the version number of the working DrakX, but > let's say it was ab

Re: [Cooker] Install Crash (network...)

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
Michel PRILLOT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > <6> cpqarray Finding drives on ida0 (SMART-2SL) > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d0: blksiz=512 nr_blks=8380320 > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d1: blksiz=512 nr_blks=8380320 > <6> cpqarray ida/c0d2: blksiz=512 nr_blks=17764320 > <6> partitio check: > <6> ida/c0d0: p1 p2 p2

Re: [Cooker] install bootloader lilo default time bug?

2001-02-02 Thread Pixel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When you get to the bootloader part of the install and choose lilo, it gives > you a chance to select amount of time before default is selected on bootup. > You can select anything and it still leaves the time to the default 5 secs. thanks, will fix it (i have to re

Re: [Cooker] 1.401 - hd.img install

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > from boot.log: > > sysctl: error: 'net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag' is an unknown key > > this sysctl doesn't exist anymore in 2.4.x > you can safely ignore this > > -- > www.linux-mandrake.com > somewhere between the playstation an

Re: [Cooker] 1.401 - hd.img install

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Thierry Vignaud wrote: > > > this sysctl doesn't exist anymore in 2.4.x > you can safely ignore this > thanks guran

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Guillaume Rousse wrote: > I don't think this is for real. Everybody on this list seems to have signed a document stating that it is not allowed to post anything that is not bowing to your God Linux. I have been using Linux since 1997 and I don't have any and don't like MS products. The reason I

Re: [Cooker] 1.401 - hd.img install

2001-02-02 Thread Thierry Vignaud
guran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > from boot.log: > sysctl: error: 'net.ipv4.ip_always_defrag' is an unknown key this sysctl doesn't exist anymore in 2.4.x you can safely ignore this -- www.linux-mandrake.com somewhere between the playstation and the craystation Thierry

Re: [Cooker] conflicts

2001-02-02 Thread Sebastian Dransfeld
You can't have both qt1 and qt2 devel installed at once. seb On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Alberto Vorano wrote: > Hi to all > > Upgrading kde I came to this: > > [root@localhost pool2]# rpm -Uvh *rpm > file /usr/bin/moc conflicts between attemped installs of qt-devel-1.44-29mdk > and libq > t2-devel-2.2

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Guillaume Rousse
On 2001.02.02 14:29:40 +0400 guran wrote: > Prana wrote: > > I am sorry if I have walked on someone's toes that was not my intention. > When teaching, I knew that I used my personality to try to bring > knowledge and that the pupils did not have to like my style, that's > life. > > What I felt

[Cooker] conflicts

2001-02-02 Thread Alberto Vorano
Hi to all Upgrading kde I came to this: [root@localhost pool2]# rpm -Uvh *rpm file /usr/bin/moc conflicts between attemped installs of qt-devel-1.44-29mdk and libq t2-devel-2.2.3-9mdk file /usr/lib/libqt.so conflicts between attemped installs of qt-devel-1.44-29mdk and libqt2-devel-2.2.3-9mdk

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread guran
Prana wrote: I am sorry if I have walked on someone's toes that was not my intention. When teaching, I knew that I used my personality to try to bring knowledge and that the pupils did not have to like my style, that's life. What I felt about my daughters questions that I found correct was, the

[Cooker] Cervisia rpms.

2001-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Lee
Yo, I don't know how many of you out there like cervisia but I have taken the time to put some cooker cervisia rpms up on the devel.mandrakesoft.com server via ftp. If you like you can download and freely use these but keep in mind that they are not officially supported. -- Geoffrey Lee <[EMAI

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Prana
Hiya Guran, Guran, I can understand your frustration. I'm one of the developer that contributes to Mandrake (I'm from cyest.org). The thing that UNIX developers (including me, sometimes) *often* overlook: we develop a program that interacts "Human" with "Computer". Sometimes we forget about the h

Re: [Cooker] VFlib2

2001-02-02 Thread Geoffrey Lee
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yep this was my mistake as I didn't have enough coffee that day and forgot > > to change the group when I shamelessly ripped this from CLE .. > CLE?? The Chinese GNU/Linux Extensions. A group in Taiwain (mainly anyway ..) which build Chinese-enabled distributions on to

Re: [Cooker] cooking on documentation

2001-02-02 Thread Tom
On Friday 02 February 2001 02:08 am, guran wrote: As an old teacher I showed her were the documentation > was situated. OK, now you're qualified (??) > > She asked me why not all documentation was to be reached more nicely > through the icon titled documentation. It is, and it's also on