Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-16 Thread andre
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 22:00, Ben Reser wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:22:01PM -0400, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > IBM reports that they find two orders of magnitude more bugs in an OS > > release within 30 days of a public release than in the /entire/ > > development QA period. That obse

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Michael Scherer
> B> It may work just after a stable release, but if it doesn't > B> work, please don't waste the maintainers time filing a bug > B> report, until you have either rebuilt the source package, or > B> tried full cooker. > > You you don't want anyone but experienced developers debuggin

Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker]kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andi Payn wrote: > On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:02, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > >>I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) > > > I'm sure Buchan will explain why samba is going to be necessary for Windows to > finally die-- # net rpc vampi

Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)

2003-07-15 Thread Andi Payn
On Tuesday 15 July 2003 12:02, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) I'm sure Buchan will explain why samba is going to be necessary for Windows to finally die--but even after that happens, samba may well survive. SMB/CIFS, when done right, is a good

Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Maybe now I can go back to spending my limited time fixing B> *real* bugs in samba? I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Adva

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 01:22:01PM -0400, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > IBM reports that they find two orders of magnitude more bugs in an OS > release within 30 days of a public release than in the /entire/ > development QA period. That observation doesn't really fit your > snapshot/beta/pre mode

Re: dealing with bug reports from stable releases (was Re: [Cooker]kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?)

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >>"B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > B> Maybe now I can go back to spending my limited time fixing > B> *real* bugs in samba? > > I suppose -- people /still/ use Windows? Amazing ;) > samba3

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 18:11, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > "A" == Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > A> Well, you've reported two essentially invalid bugs, which isn't > A> helping anyone much :) > > You'd be surprised -- I get technical questions solved all the time by

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> That's why we have snapshots, betas, and pre-releases. So you're saying once it's cut, it's perfect? That's a bit much to believe. Let's just agree to disagree: I want Mandrake's distros to be maximally consistent and bug-free, and th

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
> "A" == Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: A> Well, you've reported two essentially invalid bugs, which isn't A> helping anyone much :) You'd be surprised -- I get technical questions solved all the time by finding false positives. Diskspace for archives is cheap, especiall

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > B> Of course it is all valid, but the points you are missing out > B> are: 1)What relevance is a bug in the previous ditro to the > B> next one if it's already fixed in cooker? > > ah, yes, but, that assumes i

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 16:25, Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > > "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > >> I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me > >> the 9.1 distro kernel > > B> Of course, this is the wrong l

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> FYI, my Thinkpad 600X runs either acpi or apm just fine on B> 2.4.21.0.13mdk (sorry, can't give definitive answers for other B> kernels, as I have so many installed on it now for other B> reasons). Good -- that's what I need

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
> "B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >> I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me >> the 9.1 distro kernel B> Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ... Even if we're building cooker with options i

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: >>"B" == Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > B> Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > >> I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me > >> the 9.1 distro kernel > > B> Of course, thi

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-15 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Lawrence Murphy wrote: > I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the > 9.1 distro kernel Of course, this is the wrong list for this question ... - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan

Re: [Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-14 Thread "Andrey Borzenkov"
> I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the > 9.1 distro kernel does not include APM support -- is this correct? no. > If so, does it mean I _must_ build a custom kernel for a laptop? it depends. For a start you may try to boot with acpi=off. -andrey

[Cooker] kernel 2.4.21-0.13 has no APM?

2003-07-14 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
I'm hoping I missed something, but the apm-tools (apmd) tell me the 9.1 distro kernel does not include APM support -- is this correct? If so, does it mean I _must_ build a custom kernel for a laptop? -- Gary Lawrence Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: office voice/fax: 01 519 4222723 Business Advant