David Walluck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 9 Apr 2000, Pixel wrote:
i don't know if you ever tested urpmi. It does just this. As for me, i use it
everyday :)
see rpmdrake for a graphical interface to this
Where the the docs on urpmi? I want to know if I can add a local config
see urpmi.addmedia(8)
OK, but I'm trying to add the output of `rpm -qa`. I don't know if this is
the format of 'hdlist' or not. I know I can add cd-roms and ftp's. I would
like to add my local config so it checks there, or does this not make any
sense?
David Walluck [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
see urpmi.addmedia(8)
OK, but I'm trying to add the output of `rpm -qa`. I don't know if this is
the format of 'hdlist' or not. I know I can add cd-roms and ftp's. I would
like to add my local config so it checks there, or does this not make any
O.K. here's some info. just read a post a couple of days ago in the
news.soundblaster.com /creative.linux newsgroup.
i'm really getting tired of complete newbies buying the linux package and
expecting a "windowz" (duh) type of enviroment (and having users ask..."gee,
how do i do (some eazy
"Eric MC DECLERCK" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You are right, this is the whole problem when installing individual
packages.
A way to overcoming this is downloading or consulting www.rusfus.com, select
the package and there you'll find what is provided, needed and the
changelog.
But the
Mandrake 7.02 installs a lot of useless software by default. For example CD
Burning software is installed even if no burner is present.
Disk space shouldn't be wasted like that.
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On 9 Apr 2000, Pixel wrote:
i don't know if you ever tested urpmi. It does just this. As for me, i use it
everyday :)
see rpmdrake for a graphical interface to this
Where the the docs on urpmi? I want to know if I can add a local config
from packages.rpm and not have to have the RPMS on
Actually I meant that, CD Burning software should only be installed if a CD
Writer is detected, because otherwise there is no use for the software.
CPT KIDD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
agreed on hdd space. But! you might be how many linux users have cd-rom
burners. I know i was. mmm, don't
mmm, yea...(too many things to think of) true...thought of this too when i was
installing on my old computer which doesn't have cd-r. new hdd's offer allot
of space (this would be an issue on real old hdd's tho... 1-2 gb). there's
probabely more important issues at stake besides something like
But the point is, I think, that if you don't have one, the install
program could figure that out and omit it.
I have one, but this rule seems quite reasonable to me.
[Modulo the fact that the mkisofs proram in Mandrake was broken anyway,
last time I checked, so it's not much use even if you
as by the installation of the
distribution, there dependency problems are detected and resolved.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Richard Wackerbarth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 2:22 AM
To: dcalford; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style
On Fri, 07 Apr
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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [[Cooker] Distribution Style]
I totally agree with you, Dalton, but I would like to add a
couple of points.
If software is installed, the user should know its there. Put shortcus to
applications into KDE
By my mind rpmdrake need internet connection ??
So what if updates or installs are necessary with the CD ?
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Brian T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution
I would say have a
base package (kernel/modules/core utils rpm tool)
Xwindows with (flip coin K or Gnome core)
then start with "stuff"
Goal is to be able to have a disk/ "Zip cart" combo that can
be used to run a
"clean room" but also be able to do a normal install
also it bugs be that my menus
T. Schellenberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:49 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: [Cooker] Distribution Style
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| First, there isn't a need to make these into a single package; you just
| need for the dependencies to get resolved as done
No, no, no, no.
You don't want redundant info; if you are cramming it onto a CD, that's
just silly, and if you are downloading on a slow link it's just
annoying.
Besides, if we are trying to serve the beginning user (the start of
this thread), the focus should be on the CD, not on grabbing
On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote:
Besides, Mandrake can only make money from CDs and they *do* need to
stay in business. So, yes, make free downloads available; be true to
the spirit of open source. But they ought to optimize for what will
keep them in business, not
Really?
At the Electronics Boutiques around here the large sign for Mandrake
7.0 was at the very front, where they usually advertise the latest
video games.
At Best Buy they had dozens and dozens of copies of Mandrake 7.0
(Macmillan) on one of those big aisle-end displays, along with a
I agree with you.. for instance what does joe computer user want with
sendmail for instance since he most likely is used to use his isp's
mailserver as smtp server..
I hate to say this.. but take a look at windows and see what is installed at
the start.. very little infact..
It would be alot
First, there isn't a need to make these into a single package; you just
need for the dependencies to get resolved as done by rpmdrake already
(but not by kpackage).
Second, the general idea of having a less overwhelming "basic"
distirubtion to start is good, but make the kitchen sink available.
I agree with Micheal, Brian and what you have to say Taras.
I love the fact that I have all this power in Mandrake, but, I do not like the way
it is installed or presented.
One of my biggest complaints is the fact that some single packages do not include
the whole package.
What I mean by this
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, dcalford wrote:
One of my biggest complaints is the fact that some single packages do not
include the whole package.
What I mean by this is, I try to install Package A, then find I need
Package B, then find that Package B needs Package C.
I would prefer to install
yes...time for linux distributors to begin catching up with their new market in
which not every customer is a system adminisitrator, whatever one of those
is...mandrake, in particular, ought realize that many of its customers will be
individual users installing linux on their home machines...the
On Fri, 07 Apr 2000, dcalford wrote:
Hi Richard
Richard Wackerbarth wrote:
Why is this better than a package loader which determines the
dependancies and downloads all the missing files?
That assumes that the package loader has access to the net.
Well, if you don't have connectivity,
I totally agree with you, Dalton, but I would like to add a couple of points.
If software is installed, the user should know its there. Put shortcus to
applications into KDE and GNOME menus. I find it very annoying that Mandrake
includes AbiWord but doesn't add it to any application menus.
It
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