Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-03-03 Thread Alexander Skwar
»Keld Jørn Simonsen« sagte am 2002-02-27 um 19:44:10 +0100 : > problems with java, I understand. Something about new MS software > not running real Sun java but something else, or linux not running java And *that's* what I don't understand. Why do the hassle to write a highly complicated "Web" a

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
Hey, wanna hear a REAL HOOT I use a web-enabled medical records system. They recently changed their code so that the ONLY browser that will work with their site is IE5.. because. wait for it. they say it's MORE SECURE!!! (rotflmao) Pointed out to them that IE5 works best.

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Timothy R. Butler
> Just having fun. I often set my SMTP banner to say you're connecting to a > Commodore 64 SMTP server with an anti-spam cartridge, or a Nintendo. (-: Hehehe... "Super Spamario Brothers 3: Attack of the MLM" eh? -Tim -- Timo

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 28 February 2002 11:05, Timothy R. Butler wrote: >> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; PlayStation 2) KonqEmbed >> [en] > Now that is WEIRD looking ! :-) Are you just having fun over there, or do > you have a PS2 Linux Kit? Just having fun. I often set my SMTP banner to s

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Timothy R. Butler
> User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; PlayStation 2) KonqEmbed > [en] Now that is WEIRD looking ! :-) Are you just having fun over there, or do you have a PS2 Linux Kit? -Tim -- Timothy R. Butler

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thursday 28 February 2002 09:55, Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Thu Feb 28 11:13 +1030, Anthony Symons wrote: >> Yes, this is bad. Opera's default is to identify as MSIE, but it's under >> "quick preferences" to change it (F12). I run as opera 'till I need to >> fake MSIE. But, your system still shows

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread andre
Op do 28-02-2002, om 02:55 schreef Levi Ramsey: > On Thu Feb 28 11:13 +1030, Anthony Symons wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 02:33, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > Leon Brooks wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can m

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:54:08AM -0500, Levi Ramsey wrote: > On Wed Feb 27 11:25 +0100, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:37:01PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > > > > > All those in favour? > > > > Aye > > > > There is also a problem with net banking where all th

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Feb 28 11:13 +1030, Anthony Symons wrote: > On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 02:33, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Leon Brooks wrote: > > > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > > >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > > >>Windows)? > > Yay, thus icreas

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Anthony Symons
On Thu, 2002-02-28 at 02:33, Buchan Milne wrote: > Leon Brooks wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > >>Windows)? > Yay, thus icreasing the browsing stats for IE, and providing no > motivation

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Wed Feb 27 18:03 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > Leon Brooks wrote: > >On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > > > >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > >>Windows)? > >> > > > >Konqueror features per-site identity spoofing as well as per

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread danny
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Buchan Milne wrote: > > > Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > > Windows)? From what I've seen on the opera.linux ng, most banks seem > > to just use simple JavaScript browser detection (navigator.appName or > > similar and grepping the r

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Michel Clasquin
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 12:25, you wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:37:01PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > All those in favour? > > Aye > > There is also a problem with net banking where all the newer > browsers run some other kind of java that Danish banks do not > support, so the

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa
Le Mercredi 27 Février 2002 17:18, Teemu Torma a écrit : > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 16:58, Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: > > I'm using galeon for banking management, and i have no trouble, it is may > > be bank-related ? > > These are bank related. I am using three banks, one of them has always

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Teemu Torma
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 16:58, Stéphane Teletchéa wrote: > I'm using galeon for banking management, and i have no trouble, it is may > be bank-related ? These are bank related. I am using three banks, one of them has always worked with any reasonable browser, one works somehow with all br

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Buchan Milne
> Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > Windows)? From what I've seen on the opera.linux ng, most banks seem > to just use simple JavaScript browser detection (navigator.appName or > similar and grepping the results for Netscape or Internet Explorer). I > beli

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Buchan Milne
Leon Brooks wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > >>Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for >>Windows)? >> > > Konqueror features per-site identity spoofing as well as per-site cookies > (bin, take, ask). In the menu: Settings, Confi

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa
Le Mercredi 27 Février 2002 16:50, Leon Brooks a écrit : > On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > > Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > > Windows)? > > Konqueror features per-site identity spoofing as well as per-site cookies > (bin, take, as

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 23:54, Levi Ramsey wrote: > Have you tried Opera's browser spoofing (it can masquerade as IE 5 for > Windows)? Konqueror features per-site identity spoofing as well as per-site cookies (bin, take, ask). In the menu: Settings, Configure, User-Agent. Cheers; Leon

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Wed Feb 27 11:25 +0100, Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:37:01PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > > > All those in favour? > > Aye > > There is also a problem with net banking where all the newer > browsers run some other kind of java that Danish banks do not > su

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 11:24, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: >> There are many posts like this. I think the summary is: NS4 belongs in >> the distro, but on the last (nonfree) download CD. > People new to Mandrake and Linux should be able to get the most stable > browser that works with the most

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 11:15, David Walser wrote: > --- Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> All those in favour? > s/favour/favor/ ``You f###ing Americans are all the f###ing same! It's listen-to-me-this or let-me-tell-you-that. Well, you're dead now!'' -- Death, in Monty Python's

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-27 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 08:37:01PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote: > > > All those in favour? Aye There is also a problem with net banking where all the newer browsers run some other kind of java that Danish banks do not support, so the only linux browser which can do netbakning in Denmark is

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-26 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
Oops.. I misunderstood. Thought he meant a CD that would only be included in one of the commercially available packs. Sorry. If is on a downloadable CD, then I'm OK with it. V. On Tuesday 26 February 2002 09:29 pm, you wrote: > Um...his suggestion was to put it on the last download > CD, whi

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-26 Thread David Walser
Um...his suggestion was to put it on the last download CD, which you don't have to pay for, by non-free he was using the FSF definition. --- "Vincent Meyer, MD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NO! > NO! NO! NO! NO! NO > > People new to Mandrake and Linux should be able to > get the most stable > br

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-26 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO People new to Mandrake and Linux should be able to get the most stable browser that works with the most sites, and does not have brain damage on Java code WITHOUT having to pay extra for it. The Linux newbee who loads the basic install, and can't browse the web is NOT goin

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-26 Thread David Walser
--- Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All those in favour? s/favour/favor/ Count me in. I think it's a good idea. If Mandrake really doesn't want to do it I have another idea. I dunno how you have your packages made now, but you could have one package with just the integration stuff (

Re: [Cooker] Put NS4 on the last CD

2002-02-26 Thread Timothy R. Butler
> All those in favour? Aye. -Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtre