Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Martin J. Evans
Perhaps I am misreading http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2009/01/msg3090019.html but it looks as if the C compiler is not set up properly. Why would anyone be smoking and attempting to build XS modules without their C compiler being set up. May be this is some other issue. Any

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread David Golden
Some people have Perl without a compiler -- this looks like a Windows ActiveState Perl setup. Why smoke without a compiler? To show what happens when distros on CPAN get tested without one. (Which could happen for normal users unknowingly via dependencies, which is one of the reasons that Perl

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Ulrich Habel
when distros on CPAN get tested without one. (Which could happen for normal users unknowingly via dependencies, which is one of the reasons that Perl without a compiler makes CPAN nearly unusable and one of the reasons that drove the creationof Strawberry Perl.) I don't think this renders

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Martin Evans
David Golden wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Martin Evans martin.ev...@easysoft.com mailto:martin.ev...@easysoft.com wrote: I didn't get the impression this person was doing a single report - he is 16th on the leader board of test submissions. If the C compiler is not set

Re: testers.cpan.org not displaying most recent version of distribution in summary

2009-01-19 Thread Alceu R. de Freitas Jr.
jk...@verizon.net escreveu: Can anyone explain why testers.cpan.org is saying that such an old version of a CPAN distribution is the latest? I'm not sure, but check if your lastest distribution can be reindexed by using the proper options available in the PAUSE menu. Maybe your

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Martin Evans martin.ev...@easysoft.comwrote: This smoker does seem to have a compiler but it is not set up right. I see little point in a smoker doing this all day - it will generate loads of reports for little gain - so I guess we'll have to disagree there.

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread David Westbrook
Looks like I'm the culprit here :) Comping to this thread late, so i'll hop in from some scattered quotes: Some people have Perl without a compiler -- this looks like a Windows ActiveState Perl setup. Yes, it's activestate 5.8.7 on a win2k box -- Binary build 815 [211909], built 11/2/2005.

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 06:55:00AM -0500, David Golden wrote: There's a debate at the moment on #p5p about whether it's an error to have $Config{cc} and not have the named compiler. If so, every AS perl is broken. As is perl as distributed by Debian, Redhat and no doubt others, as you can

Re: rfc: safer smoking

2009-01-19 Thread David Westbrook
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:45 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: 2. Sorry I posted your mail on the list. I do not see any reason why this mail is off-list. Your first reply was directly to me, and not to the list (so the list is probably missing some context here), which is why i

Re: rfc: safer smoking

2009-01-19 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:07 PM, David Westbrook dwestbr...@gmail.com wrote: Proposition: + Provide an easy way to execute CPAN::Reporter::Smoker, limited just to distributions that have any version installed on the system (instead of all of CPAN). In general I think this is a good

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Slaven Rezic
David Golden xda...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:09 AM, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.ukwrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 06:55:00AM -0500, David Golden wrote: There's a debate at the moment on #p5p about whether it's an error to have $Config{cc} and not have the named

Re: rfc: safer smoking

2009-01-19 Thread Alceu R. de Freitas Jr.
--- Em seg, 19/1/09, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com escreveu: For additional safety you might want to limit the installations to 1) Modules that already have N reports in the database meaning that some other testers have already tested it. 2) Modules that have been on CPAN for at

Re: rfc: safer smoking

2009-01-19 Thread David Westbrook
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Gabor Szabo szab...@gmail.com wrote: Pros: + In theory is safer than full smoke, since only testing trusted distros (and their deps) -- the user trusted the distro enough to install it in the first place. For additional safety you might want to limit the

Re: rfc: safer smoking

2009-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM, David Westbrook dwestbr...@gmail.comwrote: (does ::Safer imply a negative connotation towards CPAN::Reporter::Smoker?) Not one that bothers me. After all, I put this in the C::R::S Pod: WARNING -- smoke testing is

RE: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, David Golden wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Martin Evans martin.ev...@easysoft.comwrote: I didn't get the impression this person was doing a single report - he is 16th on the leader board of test submissions. If the C compiler is not set up properly (and

RE: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread Jan Dubois
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Jan Dubois wrote: Right now you'll get a nice explanation from MakeMaker that your compiler is set to Microsoft's Visual Studio compiler, but your LIB and INCLUDE variables haven't been set up to match. It then doesn't generate a Makefile at all. Looking more closely,

Re: Why would anyone be smoking with their compiler not set up?

2009-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Jan Dubois j...@activestate.com wrote: If the broken version produces a sensible error message, and the correct version produces a bunch of gibberish, then I prefer the brokenness. I'm happy to get ActivePerl to change the value of $Config{cc} when no

CPAN::Distribution::reports() prob with CGI.pm

2009-01-19 Thread David Westbrook
I'm getting an error trying to execute CPAN::Distribution::reports() for the CGI.pm distro. There is a http://cpantesters.perl.org/show/CGI.yaml, but apparently not a CGI.pm.yaml, which 404's ... Should there be a CGI.pm.yaml? There are dist='CGI' and dist='CGI.pm' rows in the cpanstats.db