Re: CPAN Testers Daily Summary Report

2010-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:53:38PM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:02:46 +0100, j...@cpan.org (Johan Vromans) said: >> > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2010/01/msg6656308.html >> > I therefore mus

Re: CPAN Testers Daily Summary Report

2010-01-19 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 09:53:38PM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:02:46 +0100, j...@cpan.org (Johan Vromans) said: > > http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2010/01/msg6656308.html > > I therefore must assume it's a TESTER problem. > Yes, we're suffering already

Re: Bot Story

2010-01-19 Thread Barbie
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:23:16AM -0500, David Golden wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Barbie wrote: > >> Does redirecting the MSN bot to the static site help at all?  (I > >> though the issue was that spidering the site triggers page > >> regeneration.) > > > > They are able to index th

Re: Bot Story

2010-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Barbie wrote: >> Does redirecting the MSN bot to the static site help at all?  (I >> though the issue was that spidering the site triggers page >> regeneration.) > > They are able to index the static site already, as that's at > static.cpantesters.org, a completely

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread M W487
> You mean a list like: > > http://stats.cpantesters.org/wpcent.html > I think not. I think that list shows recent popular failures. What I want: for example, imagine a module does great web scraping when it is released, then the pages change and the scraper fails, and the well-written tests fail

Re: Bot Story

2010-01-19 Thread Barbie
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 09:15:17AM -0500, David Golden wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Barbie wrote: > > I have had an apology from the Bing representative, and I've said that I > > will only remove the ban once I see evidence that the bot is being more > > responsible. I have only banne

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > it might be useful if the CPAN Testers results would affect the > search.cpan.org results page more directly. Both the display and > the ranking of results could use the aggregate reports. I would support seeing CPAN Testers scores in

Re: Bot Story

2010-01-19 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Barbie wrote: > I have had an apology from the Bing representative, and I've said that I > will only remove the ban once I see evidence that the bot is being more > responsible. I have only banned it from www.cpantesters.org, all the > other sites are unaffected. T

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Nigel Horne [2010-01-19 11:20]: > Can we bring pressure to bear on the CPAN maintainers? That doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. I would prefer that people create modules because they want to, and high-quality modules because they want to, not because they’ll be kicked out of the club if the

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread Barbie
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 08:34:52AM -0500, M W487 wrote: > I tend to agree with all your points, but want to encourage more discussion. > > 2010/1/19 Burak Gürsoy : > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Nigel Horne [mailto:n...@bandsman.co.uk] > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:23 PM > >>

Bot Story

2010-01-19 Thread Barbie
To anyone who may have got caught up in the flak after I posted about the MSNBot, my apologies. Admittedly I shouldn't perhaps have been so emotional about it, but what is done is done. However, it seems that although I may have initiated the discussion, we are far from being the only ones sufferi

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread M W487
I tend to agree with all your points, but want to encourage more discussion. 2010/1/19 Burak Gürsoy : >> -Original Message- >> From: Nigel Horne [mailto:n...@bandsman.co.uk] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:23 PM >> To: cpan-testers-discuss@perl.org >> Subject: Unsupported CPAN Module

RE: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread Burak Gürsoy
> -Original Message- > From: Nigel Horne [mailto:n...@bandsman.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:23 PM > To: cpan-testers-discuss@perl.org > Subject: Unsupported CPAN Modules > a) Users should be warned when attempting to download/install Bad idea. Some Catalyst fanboi is spammi

Re: Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread Ingo Lantschner
Nigel Horne schrieb: Is there something we can do about unsupported CPAN Modules, for example HTML::FormatData? That module hasn't been updated since 2005, and it's not because it works and needs no updating, because it doesn't work. ... a) Users should be warned when attempting to download/

Unsupported CPAN Modules

2010-01-19 Thread Nigel Horne
Is there something we can do about unsupported CPAN Modules, for example HTML::FormatData? That module hasn't been updated since 2005, and it's not because it works and needs no updating, because it doesn't work. There are plenty of old modules like that out there. Can we bring pressure to b