Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is it time to update to Guava 18?

2015-03-25 Thread Ed Willink
ed. An integration by C of both A and B could get a MANIFEST.MF warning diagnostic that no mutually compatible version of Guava is available. A launch of C should get a run-time failure because Guava 17 is not suitable, and a diagnostic recommending installation of Guava 15 to solve the prob

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is it time to update to Guava 18?

2015-03-25 Thread Ed Willink
a compile time version failure because A and B have no overlap; an integrator's bug. Rarely it may occur at run-time if no Guava version from the overlap is available, a user's bug. Both are sensible, diagnosable and fixable leaving Eclipse as a good flexible integration platform. Re

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is it time to update to Guava 18?

2015-03-25 Thread Ed Willink
e Recommenders/Mylyn interacted with 11,12,15 Luna RC4 fudge: only one version of Guava to make an unpredictable choice from. Mars nightmare: someone introduces a second Guava version. Regards Ed Willink On 25/03/2015 09:30, Andreas Sewe wrote: Hi Ed, hi Wayne, See https://b

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Equinox Bundle Version Concerns

2015-03-24 Thread Ed Willink
went to 3.9.1, but Mars gets fixed elsewhere so there really is no change and 3.9.0 might seem ok. Clearly it isn't. It should be 3.9.100 until a real change comes along to make it 3.10.0. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issue

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is it time to update to Guava 18?

2015-03-20 Thread Ed Willink
think we should all aim to move in I-builds immediately following M6. There may be a maintenance issue. e.g. Xtext 2.8.0 is out,so moving to Guava 18 might force a 2.9.0. I feel that barely a day before M6 is too late to request this. Regards Ed Willink On 20/03/2015 21:34

[cross-project-issues-dev] New Certificate warning

2015-03-18 Thread Ed Willink
before M6 to avoid problems for headless users. Regards Ed Willink [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=450783 [2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=461634 [3] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=462431

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
. (The only 1.7 is the filesystem.java7 bundle.) Therefore IMHO this change should have been announced: a) because it was a change to the platform project plan b) because it clearly has an impact on many other projects Regards Ed Willink On 05/03/2015 01:02, Ian Bull wrote: Is this

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
ore breaks Java 6 support. i.e. it guarantees non-functionality on Java 6. Regards Ed Willink On 04/03/2015 16:59, Doug Schaefer wrote: Our consensus has always been to not have a consensus. Each project moved to where they needed to be when they needed to be. Obviously the decision

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Update site time outs

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
Hi On 04/03/2015 16:31, Ed Willink wrote: Thus OCL contributes 10 404s. EMF, Xtext, ... contribute too many to count. Each 404 seems to add one second to the getting contents time. Many of the 404s are old repos with missing p2.index. The difference between a miss and a hit makes little time

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
consensus is. Regards Ed Willink On 04/03/2015 16:32, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: What is the rationale for wanting to keep BREE levels as low as possible? Even Java 7 enters the “no further public updates” phase in April of this year. JRE 7 users in the normal update pipeline were

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Update site time outs

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
nt. The policy of making everything equally available seems also suspect. Is it really helpful to go through the composite repos to discover 20 releases of some component? Shouldn't P2 or its index scanning look only at the top level/most recent aggregates leaving plumbing the depths til

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
and announced. Regards Ed Willink On 04/03/2015 14:42, Daniel Megert wrote: Hi Ed Yes, this was intended. We never announce BREE changes. Dani From: Ed Willink To: Cross project issues Date: 04.03.2015 15:27 Subject: [cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

[cross-project-issues-dev] jdt.core move to Java 7 BREE

2015-03-04 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Is the recent change in BREE for org.eclipse.jdt.core from Java 6 to Java 7 intended? Was it announced? Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Automatic Bugzilla updates (Gerrit and Commit references) from Gerrit

2015-02-08 Thread Ed Willink
Hi No. Unfortunately only for PPEs. If you roll your own Eclipse, you need to install it and I could not see it in the SimRel repo when I last looked. Regards Ed Willink On 08/02/2015 12:17, Lars Vogel wrote: AFAIK the plug-in is active by default for everybody... Best

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train

2015-02-02 Thread Ed Willink
orm approach of having the developer describe his development is much more efficient. I tend to agree with that. Ideally! What a Utopia. Many projects struggle to raise development man power let alone extra specialists, so a lightweight aide for the developer(s) please. Regards

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train

2015-02-02 Thread Ed Willink
Hi A mishmash is certainly undesirable, but they are indirected and maybe a style consensus might materialize. (Maybe the PMI might even help format it). If the PMI doesn't help, we have to introduce a new all-projects database/HTML file. Regards Ed Willink On 02/02/20

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Joint N&N page for the release train

2015-02-02 Thread Ed Willink
;three item' overview, perhaps the PMI could supervise a list of overview N&N's. Regards Ed Willink On 02/02/2015 10:14, Lars Vogel wrote: Hi Marcel, I think the correct solution would be to extend the purpose of the Platform N&N to include newsitems from the EPP si

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson fails to access http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.4-M-builds

2015-02-01 Thread Ed Willink
. Caused by: [0.2]java.net.SocketTimeoutException: connect timed out Any news? Regards Ed Willink On 31/01/2015 18:33, Doug Schaefer wrote: No, I think they're all broken. One I was using can't see the git repos. Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers netw

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Webtools JSDT considering new Bower integration

2015-01-08 Thread Ed Willink
the rebuild test easy. We had to eliminate obsolete practices such as mapping.ini in which the build time was incorporated into source and so guaranteed a pseudo-change. Regards Ed Willink On 08/01/2015 20:40, Chuck Bridgham wrote: I'm posting this to cross-projects because w

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Open Editor timeouts

2014-12-02 Thread Ed Willink
evel where there might even be integration with changing project dependencies during a slow open. Regards Ed Willink On 02/12/2014 21:07, Lars Vogel wrote: Hi Ed, If an editor accesses the Internet I think it should use a worker thread to get the editor content. I have not se

[cross-project-issues-dev] Open Editor timeouts

2014-12-01 Thread Ed Willink
bstraction further on. Is anyone else seeing this as a problem? Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this l

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Provider and feature names

2014-11-17 Thread Ed Willink
rhaps Eclipse GIT, and the category entries can be unconstrained. Worst of all are features that start "Source for ...". Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change y

[cross-project-issues-dev] Obsolete OCL build artefacts

2014-11-10 Thread Ed Willink
specifically requests them. Please comment on [1]. Regards Ed Willink [1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=449568 ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery options

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Cannot update the "Eclipse Standard" package anymore

2014-10-13 Thread Ed Willink
uot;Basic". Regards Ed Willink On 13/10/2014 05:17, Eike Stepper wrote: Hi, I have noticed that the former "Eclipse Standard" package has recently been renamed to "Eclipse IDE for Eclipse Committers". Personally I don't like the new name because it sug

[cross-project-issues-dev] Incompatible workspace upgrade

2014-10-05 Thread Ed Willink
sions. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/

[cross-project-issues-dev] OCL and QVTd M2 late

2014-10-01 Thread Ed Willink
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Reporting interactive UI delays into the Error log

2014-09-07 Thread Ed Willink
ld be nice to be able to filter further logs from that offender. Regards Ed Willink On 02/09/2014 11:09, Lars Vogel wrote: Hi, Sometimes the Eclipse IDE freezes without providing feedback which part of the code is responsible for the freeze. Such freezes should be avoided, but

[cross-project-issues-dev] QVTd participating in Mars release

2014-08-19 Thread Ed Willink
Hi, QVTd will be participating in the Mars simultaneous release, with offset +3. Current plan is to graduate to 1.0.0. http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.mmt.qvtd/releases/1.0.0-mars Regards Ed Willink ___ cross

[cross-project-issues-dev] OCL participating in Mars release

2014-08-19 Thread Ed Willink
7.0.0. There are however many legacy consumers and so the old plugins are likely to continue to be available via a separate optional install so long as a Simultaneous Release Participant needs them. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext and MWE participating in Mars release

2014-08-19 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Sven Will this make Xpand obsolete as a separate install/download? (I hope it does.) Regards Ed Willink On 19/08/2014 14:45, Sven Efftinge wrote: Hi, Xtext and MWE will be participating in the Mars simultaneous release, with offset +2. Current plan is to contribute the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Information about the "Generifing JFace viewers" project

2014-07-30 Thread Ed Willink
raw types other than a very few fixed by very local @suppressWarnings for rawTypes/uncheckedCast. Since the API is evolving, it would seem to be a good point to also introduce @NonNull/@Nullable. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Remove CVS from Eclipse packages?

2014-06-26 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Sorry for the noise; looking for org.eclipse.git. org.eclipse.egit is in Modeling EPP.     Regards         Ed Willink On 26/06/2014 15:52, Ed Willink wrote: Hi Just not in the Modeling EPP where I looked

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Remove CVS from Eclipse packages?

2014-06-26 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Just not in the Modeling EPP where I looked. Regards     Ed Willink On 26/06/2014 15:34, Mickael Istria wrote: On 06/26/2014 04:31 PM, Ed Willink wrote: Except that of course we

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Remove CVS from Eclipse packages?

2014-06-26 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Except that of course we should replace CVS by GIT in at least the EPPs and so add on a lot more MB.     Regards         Ed Willink On 26/06/2014 10:18, Fred Bricon wrote: +1. Alex Blewitt blogged about it 3 years ago http

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Bugzilla email notification down?

2014-06-16 Thread Ed Willink
Hi It's odd. I seem to have had a fairly steady stream of Bugzilla reports. Regards Ed Willink On 16/06/2014 16:16, Webmaster(Matt Ward) wrote: I restarted the bugzilla job queue a while ago and notices seem to be fine. -Matt. On 06/16/2014 08:33 AM, Jan Koehnlein wrote

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Pseudo-singleton for Guava in RC3

2014-06-11 Thread Ed Willink
Hi See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=437107 for suggestions for a future policy.     Regards         Ed Willink On 04/06/2014 12:20, Ed Willink wrote: Hi David On 04/06/2014 11:48, David M

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Pseudo-singleton for Guava in RC3

2014-06-04 Thread Ed Willink
ackage directives, then surely it could/should rewrite all the Export-Package directives to use "uses" too?     Regards         Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Pseudo-singleton for Guava in RC3

2014-06-04 Thread Ed Willink
.     Regards         Ed Willink On 04/06/2014 01:44, David M Williams wrote: Ed, Guess you know now it's not related to bug 436418, given the discussion and diagnosis given there. https://bugs.eclipse.org

[cross-project-issues-dev] Pseudo-singleton for Guava in RC3

2014-06-02 Thread Ed Willink
ated to: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=436418 in which the Plugin registry no longer has dependents. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/m

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Still issues with multiple Guava versions ... still time to fix them

2014-06-02 Thread Ed Willink
be loaded by the overall class loader, which may have a problem if a different version of SomeGuavaClass is similarly loaded on behalf of some other component.     Regards         Ed Willink On 02/06/2014 12:51, Igor Fedorenko wrote

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Still issues with multiple Guava versions ... still time to fix them

2014-06-02 Thread Ed Willink
ugins that exclude the latest version in Orbit, one with and one without a non-optional OSGI dependency.     Regards         Ed Willink On 02/06/2014 06:07, David M Williams wrote: This has been discussed before, but apparently is still

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Copyrights and org.eclipse.license

2014-05-25 Thread Ed Willink
Hi David, Martin Thanks for adding your insights. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435734 raised for further discussion.     Regards         Ed Willink On 26/05/2014 01:48, Oberhuber, Martin wrote

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Copyrights and org.eclipse.license

2014-05-24 Thread Ed Willink
either my expectation or the page is at fault.     Regards         Ed Willink On 25/05/2014 07:05, David M Williams wrote: Ed, I don't really know the answer to some of your questions (not sure I understand what que

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Copyrights and org.eclipse.license

2014-05-24 Thread Ed Willink
isible by manually reading the properties file (or perhaps using a properties file API). Is the above analysis correct and if so how much of it is a bug in the Features page?     Regards         Ed Willink On 08/05/2014 15:25, David M Wil

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Ed Willink
isible' on many pages since its an attachment to the lower edge of the browser frame.)     Regards     Ed Willink On 23/05/2014 07:45, Stephan Herrmann wrote: On 05/23/2014 08:15 AM, Ed Willink wrote: O

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-23 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Wow! It was almost designed to be invisible. Very successful. https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=435661 raised. (It's equally 'invisible' on many pages since its an attachment to the lower edge of the browser frame.) Regards Ed Willink On 2

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Ed Willink
Hi On 23/05/2014 01:43, Wayne Beaton wrote: At the bottom of your project's PMI page, Which page is that? The main view, or one of the tabs such Edit? For the Project or for the Release? if you are logged in as a projec

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] IP Logs for Luna are due tomorrow

2014-05-22 Thread Ed Willink
Hi I must be dozy. I thought the IP tool had moved from the portal to the PMI, but I can't find it in either location.     Regards         Ed Willink On 22/05/2014 20:36, Wayne Beaton wrote: Greetings

[cross-project-issues-dev] Copyrights and org.eclipse.license

2014-05-08 Thread Ed Willink
#x27;t your report find it? Any idea where the clever code is?     Regards         Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Reminder to update your feature "licenses" for Luna

2014-04-24 Thread Ed Willink
://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=431255 to use the GIT rather than P2 repo.     Regards         Ed Willink On 24/04/2014 18:24, David M Williams wrote: Just to confirm, what Andreas said is accurate, the "best place" to get

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Two "late breaking" changes coming in Orbit bundles: ICU4J, and org.objectweb.asm

2014-04-08 Thread Ed Willink
2092 [2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=432088     Regards         Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/ma

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Ed Willink
problems to fix. Bug 430875 is the first from me. Regards Ed Willink On 21/03/2014 14:59, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: Are you talking about separate update site with java 8 patches for kepler or full-blown release? My preference is for a full release. If that doesn't h

[cross-project-issues-dev] Guava version conflicts

2014-02-24 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Problems and solutions regarding class loader conflicts between Guava versions are being discussed on https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=427862#c18 Comment 18 contains the latest bad scenario. If you use Guava you should follow this bug. Regards Ed Willink

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] What's the problem with http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/ocl/updates/milestones/5.0.0 ?

2014-01-27 Thread Ed Willink
ot; source="false" mutable="false"> ... ... Regards Ed Willink On 25/01/2014 20:13, Ed Willink wrote: Hi Eike As a result of UML moving to 5.0.0, OCL has to too. However there is no 5.0.0 milestone build till Monday. If you want a 5.0.0 now use the interim repo. Same probab

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] What's the problem with http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/ocl/updates/milestones/5.0.0 ?

2014-01-25 Thread Ed Willink
anticipation. But there are many rubbish repos around so at most I would expect a warning. I could back out the 5.0.0 aggregation, but then you'll get 4.2.0 which will probably give you a different load of conflicts. Regards Ed Willink On 25/01/2014 19:38, Eike Stepper

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [HIPP] Visibility of Hudson configuration for anonymous users

2014-01-09 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Mikael Surely the lack of visibility of HIPPs contradicts our normal Eclipse policies of openness, so all HIPPs should have anonymous read access unless specifically requested (and justified) otherwise? Regards Ed Willink On 09/01/2014 08:11, Mikaël Barbero wrote: Hi all

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [HIPP] Visibility of Hudson configuration for anonymous users

2014-01-09 Thread Ed Willink
HI Thanks Michael +1 I certainly want my OCL/QVTd HIPP to be accessible and have been inconvenienced by not being able to access other HIPPs. Regards Ed Willink On 09/01/2014 08:11, Mikaël Barbero wrote: Hi all, I often struggle to build (or setup a CI build for) eclipse

[cross-project-issues-dev] OCL (was UML2) Participating in Luna

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Willink
will appear here: https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.mdt.ocl/releases/5.0.0 The changes will obviously not occur in M4 and not until UML2 has reversioned, so probably in M5.     Regards         Ed Willink On 19/12/2013 00:21, Kenn Hussey

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [epp-dev] m2e ponders participation in luna

2013-12-19 Thread Ed Willink
. Perhaps we should require that any API evolution since a milestone is made available in an I-build by -4 and that there is a temporary API freeze from -4 to +4. Projects could then happily build in any order up to four days early. Regards Ed Willink On 19/12/2013 16:51, Doug

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Change in the default java on build.eclipse.org

2013-12-17 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Laurent A long time ago GNU Java was the almost unuseable default for vanilla Unix systems. Have you perhaps just switched to a new unconfigured platform such as a HIPP where the defaults are different? Regards Ed Willink On 17.12.2013 10:33, Laurent Goubet wrote: >

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] m2e ponders participation in luna

2013-12-15 Thread Ed Willink
Hi David Yes. I wrote 'optional', so it is obviously not Core. Regards Ed Willink On 16/12/2013 07:17, David M Williams wrote: I'm not sure if I should laugh, or cry? If they are true examples, those example components could just be omitted without loss of cor

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] m2e ponders participation in luna

2013-12-15 Thread Ed Willink
Hi There is a workaround for 'incubation' within mature projects. New optional experimental functionality may be shipped in examples plugins. Regards Ed Willink On 16/12/2013 04:06, Igor Fedorenko wrote: Hello, I just pushed updated version of m2e 1.5 plan.xml

[cross-project-issues-dev] QVTd participation in Eclipse Luna

2013-12-15 Thread Ed Willink
Hi The Eclipse QVTd (Query/View/Transformation declarative) project will particpate in the Eclipse Luna simultaneous release with an offset of +3. Release record https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/modeling.mmt.qvtd/releases/0.11.0. Regards Ed Willink

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Shared Hudson instance reacts extremly slow

2013-10-24 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Still seems to be hung. How long do we need to hang in there for builds to proceed that cannot proceed because of Hudson problems? Regards Ed Willink On 23/10/2013 21:24, Denis Roy wrote: Yep, but it's running eight builds right now, so we don't want to restart

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Freemarker

2013-10-22 Thread Ed Willink
ets are great.     Regards         Ed Willink On 22/10/2013 15:35, Sebastian Zarnekow wrote: Hi Ed, Just because I'm curious: >> However you may choose to follow my example of keeping all non-text functionality in

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Freemarker

2013-10-22 Thread Ed Willink
   Regards         Ed Willink On 22/10/2013 14:50, Doug Schaefer wrote: Xtend is a Java language extension, no? I'm talking about a template engine that we use in the new project wizard to instantiate code templates based on various

[cross-project-issues-dev] Is Hudson dead?

2013-10-11 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Hudson seems unable to accept web connections. Anyone else able to connect? Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Making your project more openŠhowto enable Gerrit

2013-10-04 Thread Ed Willink
entirety to Bugzilla/GIT as if the action had happened there in the first place. Regards Ed Willink On 04.10.2013 15:38, Shawn Pearce wrote: On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Ian Bull wrote: I really like the flow that Gerrit provides. Pushing commits is easier than creating patchs and

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] EGit 3.1.0 is late

2013-10-02 Thread Ed Willink
ll be available in staging soon? Regards Ed Willink On 02.10.2013 16:45, Matthias Sohn wrote: > I was struggling to download our updated documentation from the wiki to > include it into 3.1.0 hence the final JGit / EGit 3.1.0 takes more time than > I expected. I think it will take me 2

[cross-project-issues-dev] OCL participation in the Luna release

2013-09-12 Thread Ed Willink
contribution For Luna, we propose a full contribution at +1 relying on latest N/I builds of +2 dependencies. Occasionally a 'no-change' +3 re-contribution may be necessary to accommodate incompatible late changes in +2 dependencies. Regards

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-04 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Nice idea, but isn't the extension point a perfect target for hostile attacks? I'm pretty sure that I will disable it as vigorously as possible on my installations. Regards Ed Willink On 05/09/2013 01:14, Igor Fedorenko wrote: As you may or may not know,

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread Ed Willink
Hi I must be very dense. Where does it say "The platform requires Java 6".     Regards         Ed Willink On 03/09/2013 17:19, John Arthorne wrote: I can't think of any way to be clearer

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread Ed Willink
is updated with each plan revision, but as long as they are within the scope of the current list of reference platforms they are not generally announced individually. John From:        Ed Willink

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread Ed Willink
gards         Ed Willink On 03/09/2013 13:51, David M Williams wrote: I probably should have mentioned, there are several bugs we are still trying to work through, where the Tycho/Maven build picks a different "compiler level" than t

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Szymon Your list omits the 'culprit'. It is org.eclipse.osgi.util.NLS that is now Java 6 putting paid to all attempts at internationalization with Java 5. Regards Ed Willink On 02/09/2013 16:41, Szymon Ptaszkiewicz wrote: See http://www.eclipse.org/projects/projec

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-02 Thread Ed Willink
clearly still good to go for 1.5. It's the platform that causes a surprise.     Regards         Ed Willink On 02/09/2013 16:34, David M Williams wrote: > So it seems that the Platform no longer supports Java 5.

[cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-02 Thread Ed Willink
change? Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Is bugzilla e-mail down since the upgrade?

2013-09-02 Thread Ed Willink
Hi I haven't had a message since the 30th, and I suspect the last few hours may have been intermittent. I noticed not getting one but then got others.     Regards         Ed Willink On 02/09/2013 14:23, Thomas Watson

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-30 Thread Ed Willink
tor ensure that the swipe is well directed Announce the activity Announce availability of an alpha branch build Let the GSoC participant address the impact on a major client e.g. EMF/GEF/ Announce availability of a beta branch build Assess overall community reaction Regards

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-30 Thread Ed Willink
no reason why an optional JFace update shouldn't be made available, apart from the problem that every downstream project might be broken. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclips

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-29 Thread Ed Willink
I feel that there should be an announcement on this list of the development branch name/build so that early adopters may try it out before M3.     Regards         Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing lis

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR1 RC1 staging (maintenance) repo is complete

2013-08-21 Thread Ed Willink
uckmnister build.properties Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Pre-M1 Aggregation Repository

2013-08-21 Thread Ed Willink
Hi You must be very lucky and grateful that the rest of us are doing your work for you. I find it essential to build against the nightly repositories of my dependencies in order to be able to react to their more 'innovative' changes. Regards Ed Willink On 21/08/

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are about.ini, about.mappings and about.properties obsolete?

2013-08-20 Thread Ed Willink
is important (David: we need a SimRel report) about.ini ??? Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

[cross-project-issues-dev] Are about.ini, about.mappings and about.properties obsolete?

2013-08-20 Thread Ed Willink
very obvious benefit. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

[cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson flaky

2013-08-17 Thread Ed Willink
A few other actions give Bad Gateway or Form expected. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Question on Kepler SR1 release review

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Willink
HI I missed this decision too and although it inconveniences me for SR1, I welcome it. Arguably SR0 has the stronger constraint of the M6 API freeze and the M7 Feature freeze. I hope these will now become meaningful. Regards Ed Willink On 15/08/2013 08:02, Igor Fedorenko

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Are too many packages actually hurting Eclipse?

2013-07-30 Thread Ed Willink
+1 The vanilla Welcome page is pretty empty. It could be rearranged so that the Welcome and Customization Wizard teaser appeared together.     Regards         Ed Willink On 30/07/2013 10:56, Mickael Istria wrote: On 07

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Preferences (topic was touched in "Eclipse smells kind of dead" thread)

2013-07-15 Thread Ed Willink
capabilities? And while I'm moaning, how do I get rid of the irritating Quick Access box that I don't understand but which makes my toolbars wider than my screen?     Regards         Ed Willink On 15/07/2013 18:11, David M Williams wrote:

[cross-project-issues-dev] Projecrt IMport difficulties (was Re: FW: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???.)

2013-07-13 Thread Ed Willink
r than each user. Perhaps an extension to API tooling can validate that - Import Plugin with Sources will inherit determinate settings independent of the workspace - Checkout Plugin from CM will inherit determinate settings independent of the workspace - multiply inherit

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] FW: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???.

2013-07-12 Thread Ed Willink
be looking for a way to provide it. Regards Ed Willink On 12/07/2013 18:57, Ed Merks wrote: Igor, I think it's even stronger than that. In the end, WONTFIX shouldn't mean "I don't have time or I don't feel like it" but rather "it's working as des

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] FW: [Doug on the Eclipse CDT] New comment on "Eclipse smells kind of dead"???.

2013-07-12 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Get a committer from a related but independent project to review the Bugzilla discussion to form a less prejudiced on view on whether the WONTFIX is justified.     Regards         Ed Willink On 12/07/2013 17:25, Doug Schaefer wrote

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-04 Thread Ed Willink
compiled classes should be made (e.g. load them all?), to verify that dependencies in the repository are compatible with those used at compile time. That's what the smoke test should do. Activate enough classes from enough places to demonstrate no CNFEs. Regards Ed Wi

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-04 Thread Ed Willink
missing dependencies. For instance for OCL, I already have tests that do a minimal amount of editor liveness testing on an example project, which gives me some confidence that Xtext is still there in a useable fashion. Regards Ed Willink On 04/07/2013 10:25, Pascal Rapicault wrote

[cross-project-issues-dev] LTS releases (was Re: 6 month release cycle)

2013-07-03 Thread Ed Willink
those fixes available individually.     Regards         Ed Willink On 03/07/2013 18:30, Jesse McConnell wrote: LTS currently relies upon the existence of a simultaneous release as

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-03 Thread Ed Willink
ng up. I would be amazed if P2 could sort out the anarchy. So the users will wait a long time, get given an irritating please confirm this magic solution that excludes your favourite product dialog. Eclipse will become a laughing stock.     Regards      

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-03 Thread Ed Willink
lease. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] What is a maintenance release

2013-06-28 Thread Ed Willink
find it quite amazing that anyone could even think of starting Kepler with a second maintenance release. Surely such maintenance releases could only be appropriate for inactive mature projects?]     Regards         Ed Willink     On 27/06/2013 20

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] What is a maintenance release

2013-06-27 Thread Ed Willink
Hi Ed I am trying to understand what if any release rigour exists in the Eclipse release policies; indeed if there are any policies at all. There is clearly a large discrepancy between my expectation and what I observe in practice. Regards Ed Willink On 27/06/2013 18:50, Ed

[cross-project-issues-dev] What is a maintenance release

2013-06-27 Thread Ed Willink
ither 2.4.2a or 2.4.3. Regards Ed Willink ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev

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