Re: names to say in late september -- Rishad?

2000-07-28 Thread David Jablon
About "Rishad", someone privately wrote: ... naming an algorithm designed by three jewish guys after an arabic word doesn't actually seem right to me... Ha! I thought about that ... for a minute or so. But great ideas like RSA must rise above irrelevant cultural boundaries. But now that

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and video messaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread amanda
Perhaps you wouldn't trust your WOT with you life, but at least you know that there is some accountability in the signature chain. If you find that Mallory has a key that says "Bob'" then you can follow the signatures. When you find the person who admits that he signed

ANNOUNCE: Open Source implementation of MS CSP

2000-07-28 Thread Sergio Tabanelli
I don't know if this can interest someone on this list, but in the attached announce, together with and open source implementation of MS CSP, you can find a tool that can be used to substitute the _NSAKEY in the advapi32.dll. ciao Sergio Tabanelli Project Manager Consultant Fabbrica Servizi

RE: names to say in late september

2000-07-28 Thread Heyman, Michael
From: Rodney Thayer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Many companies trade mark their company name. I've heard the term 'rsa' pre-dates the company, so I assume they didn't do that. I don't see it on the web site. Trademarking the company name and trademarking the algorithm name is

Re: names to say in late september

2000-07-28 Thread William Allen Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This was an issue last year. We've covered the same ground that was covered elsewhere last year, including the same proposed names. Having been awakend by a thunderstorm, I took a little time to check on progress over in IEEE. The latest letter that I

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread Rich Salz
I do not understand what is meant by "provably secure". An unfortunate admission for a would-be cryptographer. For what it's worth, this is a mark against your credibility and might mean that fewer real crypto types will look at your work. (And no, I don't qualify as a crypto type.)

Re: names to say in late september

2000-07-28 Thread Matt Crawford
What shall we call that-public-key-algorithm-that-will-not-be- patent-protected in late September? we should not use a trademarked or copyrighted term, in my opinion. I think that "RSA" has gone the way of "Aspirin" and "Zipper". If some lawyers try to make trouble about it, just put the

Re: what to call RSA

2000-07-28 Thread John R Levine
RSA Data Security does have some registered trademarks for encryption software. In principle, they're not enforcable against an algorithm as opposed to an implementation thereof, but considering how unpleasant RSA the company has been in the past, I don't see any point in picking a fight

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: I do not understand what is meant by "provably secure"] At 09:57 AM 7/28/2000 -0400, Rich Salz wrote An unfortunate admission for a would-be cryptographer. It should have been obvious from the context that you deleted that I was criticizing the use of the word to

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread Derek Atkins
Actually, no, you can apply "provably secure" to a protocol as well. Granted, it is usually applied to cryptographic protocols, but that is still a protocol, not a cryptosystem. Indeed, one could attempt to apply "provably secre" techniques to protocols such as Kerberos, or, in the case of the

RE: names to say in late september

2000-07-28 Thread John Kennedy
Having listened to ANSI X9F.1 and IEEE P1363 working groups argue for years about naming/renaming nearly to the point of absurdity, I thought I would point out what RSA's lawyers said on the record about the name: http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/1363/P1363/letters/SecurityDynamics.jpg

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging overthe Internet

2000-07-28 Thread RL 'Bob' Morgan
"Provably secure" is a word applicable to cyphers, not protocols. To use it in reference to a protocol is nonsense gibberish. A Google search on "provably secure protocol" comes up with, among others: http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/honey/talks/cardis98/tsld001.htm

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and videomessaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread R. Hirschfeld
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 07:35:42 -0700 From: "James A. Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Provably secure" is a word applicable to cyphers, not protocols. To use it in reference to a protocol is nonsense gibberish. No, it is just more difficult to establish of protocols than of primitives because

Re: A proposal for secure videoconferencing and video messaging over the Internet

2000-07-28 Thread James A. Donald
-- t 01:41 PM 7/27/2000 -0400, William Allen Simpson wrote: I'll also note that provably secure multicast is an ongoing project over at Honeyman's CITI. I do not understand what is meant by "provably secure". One can only prove security against a particular threat. There will always