Re: stealth, stego & pgp (Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego)

1999-07-20 Thread Bodo Moeller
Adam Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On how to stego pgp messages. First you have to ensure that the data > you are stegoing has a rectangular distribution [...] [...] > It might be nice to update stealth-2 for openPGP / pgp5. There you > have the additional task of coping with Elgamal key exchange

stealth, stego & pgp (Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego)

1999-07-01 Thread Adam Back
On how to stego pgp messages. First you have to ensure that the data you are stegoing has a rectangular distribution with even probability of {0,1} for each bit, and apply your stego technique. Various ideas have been discussed, but as anonymous suggests this has all been worked out for PGP 2.x

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-30 Thread Anonymous
Bill Frantz writes: > It seems to me you could use an existing public key infrastructure, e.g. > PGP, but build a different message format with the stego requirements in > mind. Off the top of my head (using PGP 2.6): > > (size, data) > (256, key) - RSA encrypted key padded with pseudo-random pa

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-30 Thread Bill Frantz
At 9:42 AM -0700 6/29/99, Russell Nelson wrote: >So you've got a chicken-and-egg problem -- you have to have yet >another set of public keys for your stego crypto algorithm. It seems to me you could use an existing public key infrastructure, e.g. PGP, but build a different message format with the

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-30 Thread Jay Holovacs
-- > From: David Honig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jay Holovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego > > \begin{nuance} > Except that encrypted LSBs will be perfectly uniformly

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-29 Thread Mike Stay
Russell Nelson wrote: >You can't just take the output of one of those crypto systems and stuff >it into the "random" bits of a real-life sample. There's too much >plaintext for the stego to hide. Stego needs a special type of >cryptography that has no known plaintext in its encrypted output --

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-29 Thread David Honig
At 12:20 PM 6/29/99 -0400, Jay Holovacs wrote: >But if data is properly encrypted first, noise extracted from any picture >should be virtually indistinguishable from encrypted data. Stego is really \begin{nuance} Except that encrypted LSBs will be perfectly uniformly distributed and normal noise

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-29 Thread Jay Holovacs
-- > From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Eason/Kawaguchi stego > Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:27 AM > > . Also, only a > few parameters are needed to retrieve the information, so anybody with > the appropriate

Re: Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-29 Thread Russell Nelson
Jay Holovacs writes: > -- > > From: Russell Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Eason/Kawaguchi stego > > Date: Tuesday, June 29, 1999 9:27 AM > > > > . Also, only a > > few parameters are needed to

Eason/Kawaguchi stego

1999-06-29 Thread Russell Nelson
There's an EETimes article on Eason/Kawaguchi stego in the 6/28 issue. They hide their bits in the most complex parts of the image -- where neighboring pixels are most different from one another. Also, only a few parameters are needed to retrieve the information, so anybody with the approp