Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden

2015-11-17 Thread John Young
Wheedling about crypto and Snowden diverts from CIA Director's full speech and broader critique. CIA version omits Q http://csis.org/files/attachments/151116_GSF_OpeningSession.pdf To be sure, commentators must promote their products to flatter their consumers as do

Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden

2015-11-17 Thread Justin F
>"This Is War!" Perfect for all consumers except the slaughtered, a few of >which get ritual mourning (most ignored, unreported, > unsacrelized, unheroricized, unencrypted)." It's actually amazing, if you have a story and documentation and its a bombshell to a point that it makes you question

Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden

2015-11-17 Thread Givon Zirkind
imho, the crypto involved is not the issue. not having boots on the ground, good intel, good spies who can walk and talk like the enemy, is the real issue. there was no crypto in the false i.d. papers used to gain entry. there is no crypto in exploiting the humanitarian aid being given to

Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden

2015-11-17 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM, John Young wrote: > Wheedling about crypto and Snowden diverts from CIA Director's full speech > and broader critique. CIA version omits Q > > http://csis.org/files/attachments/151116_GSF_OpeningSession.pdf >

Re: [cryptography] Paris Attacks Blamed on Strong Cryptography and Edward Snowden

2015-11-17 Thread grarpamp
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Givon Zirkind wrote: > imho, the crypto involved is not the issue. not having boots on the ground, > good intel, good spies who can walk and talk like the enemy, is the real > issue. Exactly. Governments have had at least 15 years to strap those