Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread zonjai
Kelly Miller wrote: zonjai wrote: As for this extra line spacing, will designating a line-height value set up as an IE6 hack work? I have never noticed a difference when setting up one of those before. Would it just be a simple 1% or am I thinking of something different? Zonjai -- zonj

Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
zonjai wrote: rel=" stylesheet" <-- Try removing the space before stylesheet. Some browsers get confused about that sort of thing, and won't load the stylesheet. Okay Kelly it worked. I removed the space and it is now displaying in Opera just fine. In IE6.0 for Win, I am getting the sam

Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread zonjai
rel=" stylesheet" <-- Try removing the space before stylesheet. Some browsers get confused about that sort of thing, and won't load the stylesheet. Okay Kelly it worked. I removed the space and it is now displaying in Opera just fine. In IE6.0 for Win, I am getting the same spacing issues

Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread zonjai
Oh, and sorry for not including this in my other email, but upon looking over the code quickly, I just want to throw this in: Non-table design does not work exactly like table based design. For example, that top graphic was three slices in a table, but in CSS, it can be a single image. Yep th

Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
Oh, and sorry for not including this in my other email, but upon looking over the code quickly, I just want to throw this in: Non-table design does not work exactly like table based design. For example, that top graphic was three slices in a table, but in CSS, it can be a single image. That

Re: [css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
rel=" stylesheet" <-- Try removing the space before stylesheet. Some browsers get confused about that sort of thing, and won't load the stylesheet. -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! __

[css-d] Website check please - problems on windows?

2005-05-27 Thread Graham
You also need to put width:100% on your container div to make the white background show in IE. Regards Graham Cook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luca Balboni Sent: Friday, 27 May 2005 12:28 PM To: css-d css-d Subject: [css-d] Website c

[css-d] Win IE absolute positioning not working on only one element

2005-05-27 Thread Gonzalo Arin
Marc Wolfgram wrote: The css positioning for the header elements on this site is working on Mac and Win for all browsers except IE under windows. ref: http://www.elmbrooklifebuilders.org/ One element is a horizontal img placed just like all the other img stuff: Relative css:

[css-d] Website check please - problems on windows?

2005-05-27 Thread Graham
In IE6 the top navigation menu items jump all over the place because of the HEIGHT: 1.9em in the style: #navigation A:hover { COLOR: #33; BORDER-BOTTOM: #99 1px solid; HEIGHT: 1.9em } Remove this to make it work properly in IE (sorry I can't test for Mac) Regards Graham Cook -

[css-d] Non-Tables layout help

2005-05-27 Thread zonjai
Hello to all, and thank you for this discussion group. I am having a layout problem. I am working on a site for my new employer. The main layout and design were already created by the previous webdesigner and was done all in tables. This is my first project with this company, and since ther

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem - It works!

2005-05-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christopher Harris wrote: Thanks Gunlaug - it works! But - how does the float affect it? It may be retarded to ask - but I'd just like to know why. I know that the labels and inputs were floating left, but why would they cause them to bunch up like that? Floats [Text Box] will always pass

Re: [css-d] 3 column layout problem

2005-05-27 Thread cifroes
luciash wrote: cifroes wrote: Hi, thanks for the quick reply. I tried putting a large image in the center column in that design. Right col and center column (and scrollbars) works nicely, as i wanted... the problem is that the left column has a strange behaviour "dancing around" when you r

Re: [css-d] Bullets are foobarred!!

2005-05-27 Thread zonjai
Scott Blanchard wrote: Please take a look at this screenshot (JPEG): http://v5.octane8.com/destin/images/x8webtop_images/picture1.jpg Notice how the bullet images in the sitemap menu on the left are all mangled? Here's the actual URL to the page, can anyone else see the mangled bullets? h

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?/Liquid vs Fixed

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
Christie Mason wrote: Thanks Gunlaug Sørtun, that was somewhat reassuring. As a ending comment, I would like to say to all those that are going in the fixed direction (CSS or table or hybrid) that, as a site guest, I REALLY dislike the trend. Christie Mason ___

Re: [css-d] Bullets are foobarred!!

2005-05-27 Thread Patrick Mannix
Scott Blanchard wrote: Please take a look at this screenshot (JPEG): http://v5.octane8.com/destin/images/x8webtop_images/picture1.jpg Notice how the bullet images in the sitemap menu on the left are all mangled? Here's the actual URL to the page, can anyone else see the mangled bullets? htt

Re: [css-d] Trouble with Mozilla and IE6

2005-05-27 Thread Gianni Cuccu
2. The layout is destroyed in IE / Win. The layout utilizes two floats, to which I have applied the display: inline feature and the child selector to attempt to correct the 3px bug. Nothing has solved the issue. Please help! Hi, try this... div#globalnav { float:right; border-left: 2px

Re: [css-d] CSS - Looking Down the Road....

2005-05-27 Thread Uwe Kaiser
Larry Israel schrieb: I am curious to pick the brains of some of you CSS gurus out there about something. Without going into too much detail, are there facets of CSS that are coming down the pipe in the not so distant future that "excite" you? Although your question might at first seem somewha

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread Christopher Harris
I thought about that - but there is a way to do it without as much typing. I have it fixed now. Gunlaug Sorten replied to me and gave the answer I was looking for. Basically, one mandatory CSS line and an optional one regarding the vertical alignment of the word "To". I figure - the less you

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread Christopher Harris
I have it fixed now. But, if you leave out float: left; - the whole form gets stretched vertically, which is not what I want. The reason I need it compacted is because it fits into a tiny "window" on a home page. As for display: block. I forget why. I think it has to do with keeping everyth

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem - It works!

2005-05-27 Thread Christopher Harris
Thanks Gunlaug - it works! But - how does the float affect it? It may be retarded to ask - but I'd just like to know why. I know that the labels and inputs were floating left, but why would they cause them to bunch up like that? Thanks again. - Chris From: Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[ADMIN - OT] Re: [css-d] do H tag levels matter in Search engines?

2005-05-27 Thread Bob Easton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a general question about H tags (H1 , H2, H3 etc). Does the level of H tag matter when it comes to Search engine visibility? This is not a CSS related question. It would be better asked in the web design list. http://webdesign-l.com/ -- Bob Easton Accessibili

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread Jan Söderback
On 5/28/05, Christopher Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know it's because the labels and the boxes have display: block Why do the inputs need to be floated (or display:block, for that matter)? Putting float:left: on only the labels seems to work fine in Firefox. ___

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I believe the text between the two text boxes: "To" needs to be contained within a label tag. It is at present a tag without text. I'm not sure exactly what that means to the browser, but it seems to affect the float that you are looking for. Joel Goldstick www.columbuswebmakers.com Christo

Re: [css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christopher Harris wrote: The problem: I have a form, and everything is lining up properly except one line. It's the line with Square Feet: [Text Box] To [Text Box]. The problem is that I can't get them to line up on the same line. http://www.steeloaklimited.com/houseplantrends/formtest.ht

[css-d] do H tag levels matter in Search engines?

2005-05-27 Thread fokuss
I had a general question about H tags (H1 , H2, H3 etc). Does the level of H tag matter when it comes to Search engine visibility? Which are more important (if any)? Thanks Adam __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-d

[css-d] CSS Form Problem

2005-05-27 Thread Christopher Harris
The problem: I have a form, and everything is lining up properly except one line. It's the line with Square Feet: [Text Box] To [Text Box]. The problem is that I can't get them to line up on the same line. The URL is: < http://www.steeloaklimited.com/houseplantrends/formtest.html > . The C

Re: [css-d] CSS - Looking Down the Road....

2005-05-27 Thread Larry Israel
>> I am curious to pick the brains of some of you CSS gurus out there about >> something. Without going into too much detail, are there facets of CSS >> that are coming down the pipe in the not so distant future that >>"excite" you? > > Although your question might at first seem somewhat "theoretic

[css-d] Problem with ul list and problem with border

2005-05-27 Thread Chris
Hello, I have a problem under IE with an unordered list. My page is at http://ivredimages.free.fr/produits.php In the ul list, the third level is not horizontally aligned. What is wrong? Also, on this page, there is no vertical border on the right of the left menu in IE. I do not understan

[css-d] Win IE absolute positioning not working on only one element

2005-05-27 Thread Marc Wolfgram
Time for this lurker to beg for help... The css positioning for the header elements on this site is working on Mac and Win for all browsers except IE under windows. ref: http://www.elmbrooklifebuilders.org/ One element is a horizontal img placed just like all the other img stuff:

RE: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?/Liquid vs Fixed

2005-05-27 Thread Christie Mason
Thanks Gunlaug Sørtun, that was somewhat reassuring. As a ending comment, I would like to say to all those that are going in the fixed direction (CSS or table or hybrid) that, as a site guest, I REALLY dislike the trend. Christie Mason

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Mike Stickel
On May 27, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Theodore Serbinski wrote: On 5/27/05, Christie Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is this true? "all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design". I hope not, but if it is true is it because of the difficulties in creating liquid CSS designs, or is the

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Christie Mason wrote: Is this true? "all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design". I hope not, but if it is true is it because of the difficulties in creating liquid CSS designs, or is there some other reason? Just take the word "all" out of that sentence, as no switching to an

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
Ah, doh! That is right, needed position:relative Added that and it worked: http://www.washsq.com/beta/ (the green bg is just there to make sure it is right) Image doesn't disappear either on FF or IE6. And I added a margin for the text to get it to wrap closer to the cables even though it is O

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
You do know z-index only applied to positioned elements, right? But regardless, in this case, if you'd managed to get the text over the image, the image would have disappeared (because the text and the white background are on the same level). If you give the text a right margin, you can get i

Re: [css-d] CSS - Looking Down the Road....

2005-05-27 Thread Pactum web services
From: "Syntactic: Jim Wilkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am curious to pick the brains of some of you CSS gurus out there about something. Without going into too much detail, are there facets of CSS that are coming down the pipe in the not so distant future that "excite" you? I'm no guru, but I

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
On 5/27/05, Christie Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this true? "all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design". > I hope not, but if it is true is it because of the difficulties in creating > liquid CSS designs, or is there some other reason? >From all of my research/examples i

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
Hey Kelly, Went back to what I originally had (and what you suggested would be the best course) but here is the problem I was having originally: http://www.washsq.com/beta/ See that paragraph of text ... I can't seem to get that to be ON TOP of the image, no matter what I do. I can get that, th

Re: [css-d] images in OLs

2005-05-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
James Duncan wrote: 1. (image) Headline the HTML is so far the only result i get is the image bottom aligning with the baseline of the headline and flowing upwards. I need the top of the image to align and then flow downwards. Should work with 'vertical-align: top;' defined on that i

RE: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Christie Mason
Is this true? "all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design". I hope not, but if it is true is it because of the difficulties in creating liquid CSS designs, or is there some other reason? I primarily do database interaction so I still use a lot of tables with CSS where possible. Ch

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
Yeah. The trick is you have to make the gradient fade part of the image as well. Then you have to use margins and padding to keep the text away from the image. -- http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ - Get Firefox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/ - Reclaim Your Inbox! __

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
Hi Kelly, Originally I did try this setup (with H2 and UL instead of divs)! The problem I ran into is that I had to slice up that cable image big because of the gradient fade. And then my content text was too short... it was hidden by the extra white space in the image. I tried z-indexes but no av

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
Theodore Serbinski wrote: Hi Kelly, The entire website is going to be fixed width at 768px ... I know pros/cons to this but it seems to the most reliable method to date and all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design. But thanks for the tip for using it as liquid. As for the gra

[css-d] images in OLs

2005-05-27 Thread James Duncan
Hi All Long time listener, first time caller Im trying to do something fairly simple, but its not turning out that way I have an ordered list within each id like to place a image (not as an image replacement for the number, and image actually within the content of the LI itself) so it woudl r

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
Hi Kelly, The entire website is going to be fixed width at 768px ... I know pros/cons to this but it seems to the most reliable method to date and all of the top CSS designers switched back to fixed design. But thanks for the tip for using it as liquid. As for the graphic of the cables, I think I

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Kelly Miller
Theodore Serbinski wrote: Well the border part I've figured out... I just have a 1 x 768px image that is set as the bg for the body this creates the shadow effect perfectly. I agree with the title image graphic being an as well no problems there. But that graphic of the cable, whew still havi

Re: [css-d] Class not extending full lenght

2005-05-27 Thread Michael Cassidy
Worked, thanks. I had finally figured out that it was the use of the italic but I couldn't come up with a work around except changing to a sans-serif font and no italic. Thanks. On May 26, 2005, at 2:27 AM, Bruno Fassino wrote: Michael Cassidy wrote: I have a bar that I want to extend acr

Re: [css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread Theodore Serbinski
> > http://www.washsq.com/layouyt01.jpg > > > You've got a border down the left, which can be applied to the , > and a network cable blending into a grid which can be applied to the > div containing the main content, and a logo/heading image which should > go in the foreground in an . All the rest

Re: [css-d] CSS - Looking Down the Road....

2005-05-27 Thread Syntactic: Jim Wilkinson
Thomas, I am curious to pick the brains of some of you CSS gurus out there about something. Without going into too much detail, are there facets of CSS that are coming down the pipe in the not so distant future that "excite" you? Although your question might at first seem somewhat "theoreti

[css-d] Re: advice for complex background image?

2005-05-27 Thread David Dorward
On 5/27/05, Theodore Serbinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i have a new design comp of a new layout for our website here: > > http://www.washsq.com/layouyt01.jpg > > i'm playing around with the XHTML/CSS but i'm not sure what is the > best and simplest method for cutting up that graphic and disp

[css-d] Styling text input boxes question

2005-05-27 Thread Chester Bullock
I have done some testing on input type="text" box styling and am a bit troubled that I cannot find a good solution to my problem. Say we have a text box: If I use a style like this (on a windows machine): input { font-family: sans-serif; font-size : 9pt; border:1px sol

[css-d] Text Just to Right of Centered Image

2005-05-27 Thread Chris Morse
Hello, I would like to add a copyright symbol just to the right of a logo which is centered horizontally on the page. I would also like the top of the copyright symbol aligned with the top of the image. Here is the table equivalent of what I am trying to do (but am trying to learn how to do thin

[css-d] Bullets are foobarred!!

2005-05-27 Thread Scott Blanchard
Please take a look at this screenshot (JPEG): http://v5.octane8.com/destin/images/x8webtop_images/picture1.jpg Notice how the bullet images in the sitemap menu on the left are all mangled? These are background images attached to the LI elements of the unordered list based navigation. The really w

Re: [css-d] alt tag in CSS?

2005-05-27 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hey Luci, that's a really neat idea. The nav system I devised when > quite new to CSS has spacer GIFs with alt attributes, but I've never > been completely happy with it. Your way is better. How so? Because it can fail in more than one scenario? The alternative text is there to - explain what

Re: [css-d] alt tag in CSS?

2005-05-27 Thread Christian Heilmann
> > it's no good way but you can try > > > > Alternative text > > damn, sorry, it has to be with id: > Alternative text In fact, it is a horrible way, as display:none might not be read by some screen readers. Check "screenreader visibility" on the Wiki. -- Chris Heilmann Blog: http://www.wait-

[css-d] Re: Always learning something new...

2005-05-27 Thread David Dorward
On 5/27/05, Rick Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > /*data > /*]]>*/ > > > I thought I was pretty knowledgeable in CSS but have no clue what this is > used for. In XHTML and