[css-d] combining white-space:pre and word-wrap: break-word?

2005-11-21 Thread jack fredricks
I'm trying to combine "white-space:pre" and "word-wrap: break-word" in a rule and not getting too far. I guess in someways they shouldn't work together..but.. i'm trying to achieve this; content in a TD which; 1) preserves soft-returns/line breaks (breaks that are NOT s etc). For this I need the

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please

2005-11-21 Thread Sasha Gerrand
Hi, The site renders OK in all Mac OS X based UAs. In Safari (1.3 and 2), the menu on the right-hand side with the navigation category text is almost starting to greek though (which might associated with the 'small' declaration.). No major issues with Mac IE 5.2. Cheers, Sasha

Re: [css-d] IE5.2/Mac mess. Help please!

2005-11-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 22 Nov 2005, at 6:59 am, Richard Grevers wrote: > > In the rush to meet a tight deadline to reskin a legacy site, we > didn't have the chance to address issues in IE5.2 for Mac with our > site, but one of the 0.15% (our old site's stats) of users visiting > has commented on the mess that we saw

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Ingo Chao wrote: >I should have mentioned that I can see the vertical rendering on the >live page. On a local copy of the page, all is well and horizontally >aligned. > >Can anyone confirm >a) the problem Thierry has reported on IE6 and >b) what I see in FF1.5RC3? > >Ingo > > > Ingo, Re: b)wha

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote: >I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will >be appreciated. Or will they? :-P > >Thank you. >Best, >~dL > > > Deleting the margin-bottom seems to have stopped the content heading from jumping in xp/ie6.0.

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Ingo Chao wrote: >I should have mentioned that I can see the vertical rendering on the >live page. On a local copy of the page, all is well and horizontally >aligned. > >Can anyone confirm >a) the problem Thierry has reported on IE6 and >b) what I see in FF1.5RC3? > >Ingo > > > Ingo, Felix Mia

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: >David Laakso wrote: > > > >>Content headings still jump after a restart on my end-- xp_sp2 ie6.0. >> Leonardo is scratching his >>head, too. >> >> > >Confirm jumping headings. IE6/win2K pro. >Did Leonardo remember to give those

Re: [css-d] Getting height to stretch/shrink on resize

2005-11-21 Thread Ann Adamcik
Thanks, Jesper! Though I was hoping there would be a css way to do this, your script does exactly what I need. -Ann --- Jesper Brunholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK there's no way to do it with css. I've made a > solution with > javascript on the Phonix webpages > http://www.phonixfolk.d

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David Laakso wrote: > Content headings still jump after a restart on my end-- xp_sp2 ie6.0. > Leonardo is scratching his > head, too. Confirm jumping headings. IE6/win2K pro. Did Leonardo remember to give those content-divs a 'hasLayout' trigger?

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Ingo Chao wrote: >Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > > >>It works correctly on my side, both Camino 1.0b (=Firefox 1.5rc3) and >>Firefox 1.6a1. >> >>If you reload the page, does the problem disappear ? >> >> > >Hmm. It did not disappear. But now (after a restart) I cannot reproduce >it anymore.

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Ingo Chao wrote: > Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: >> It works correctly on my side, both Camino 1.0b (=Firefox 1.5rc3) and >> Firefox 1.6a1. >> >> If you reload the page, does the problem disappear ? > > Hmm. It did not disappear. But now (after a restart) I cannot > reproduce it anymore. Weird. I

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > It works correctly on my side, both Camino 1.0b (=Firefox 1.5rc3) and > Firefox 1.6a1. > > If you reload the page, does the problem disappear ? Hmm. It did not disappear. But now (after a restart) I cannot reproduce it anymore. Weird. Ingo -- http://www.satzans

Re: [css-d] pop-ups

2005-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Sent this one off-list hours ago, but it got blocked, so... Doreen Cowan wrote: > I have made a menu using some of Mr. Meyers' coding which he created > a few years ago. My vertical menu works fine. I decided to turn it > into a horizontal menu. However, now I don't know how to get the > pop

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 22 Nov 2005, at 8:34 am, Ingo Chao wrote: > I should have mentioned that I can see the vertical rendering on the > live page. On a local copy of the page, all is well and horizontally > aligned. > > Can anyone confirm > a) the problem Thierry has reported on IE6 and > b) what I see in FF1.5RC3

[css-d] help with IE needed gain

2005-11-21 Thread Mark Mckee
hi all I have intergrated my orum with my site. so far so good. except the way IE renders the page. if i could get away with swearing i would lol. for now i shall cry. can anyone suggest a fix, or see where i have gone wrong? all fine in FF windows, just IE is the problem http://www.soddengeck

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Ingo Chao
I should have mentioned that I can see the vertical rendering on the live page. On a local copy of the page, all is well and horizontally aligned. Can anyone confirm a) the problem Thierry has reported on IE6 and b) what I see in FF1.5RC3? Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html __

Re: [css-d] computing sidebar width

2005-11-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21/11/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the recommended method to choose the width of a navigation > sidebar with dynamic contents? Its rather subject to personal preference. I generally specify a width in ems, generally around 12-15 of them, and avoid overlong strings

Re: [css-d] Site Check Please

2005-11-21 Thread Roger Roelofs
Reese, On Nov 21, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Reese wrote: > We are looking for feedback on > > http://inkworkswell.com/clients/monroelab > > Especially from MacIE/Safari users. All comments on display issues > welcome. Safari and ie5/mac render the page comparably to ff1.5rc3 except for the right hand

[css-d] computing sidebar width

2005-11-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello all, I am new here. I expected to find an answer to my question on the wiki but I didn't, so here it is. What is the recommended method to choose the width of a navigation sidebar with dynamic contents? Ideally, I'd like the sidebar width to adjust automatically to its contents, as in tabl

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Ingo Chao wrote: >David Laakso wrote: > > >>I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will >>be appreciated. Or will they? :-P >> >> >> > > >Wish I could do such nice things. :) > > I wish I could do stuff that works. >FF1.

[css-d] suckerfish and sliding doors and css, oh my...

2005-11-21 Thread rebecca taylor
hi, i'm perhaps over enthusiastically trying to get "suckerfish-style" dropdowns to work on my "sliding door" style tabs at http://rebecca.thedevserver.com/PF06/. so my problem (well, at least the one i'm grappling with currently *grin*) is that my drop down, the second-level ul, are absolutel

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> >I think you need to reduce the width of the sidebar a little because it > >drops in IE/Win. > >Besides that, very nice... > Thierry, > Hmm. No float drop of sidebar this end @ 800 text-size largest in > XP_SP2 IE6.0. Are you using Win/2000? What version of IE? Same as yours, but now it works.

Re: [css-d] CSS validator warnings on color vs. background and "redefinition of padding"

2005-11-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Charles Dort wrote: > First, many of them are that I specified a background color but no > text color, or the reverse. [...] To correct this will require the > addition of several additional lines of code that to this beginner, > anyway, seem unnecessary. I am also a beginner, but I can tell you

Re: [css-d] Are javascripts a good way to squish three-columnlayoutbugs? *newbie*

2005-11-21 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Thierry Koblentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Christina Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Are javascripts a good way to squish three-columnlayoutbugs? *newbie* >> I'm wrestling with my first table-less site. I'm an experienced >>

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Ingo Chao
David Laakso wrote: > I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will > be appreciated. Or will they? :-P > Wish I could do such nice things. :) FF1.5RC3 [Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8) Gecko/2005 Fir

[css-d] Site Check Please

2005-11-21 Thread Reese
We are looking for feedback on http://inkworkswell.com/clients/monroelab Especially from MacIE/Safari users. All comments on display issues welcome. Reese -- Ink Works http://www.inkworkswell.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
Thierry Koblentz wrote: >>I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will >>be appreciated. Or will they? :-P >> >> >> > >Hi David, >I think you need to reduce the width of the sidebar a little because it >drops in IE/Win. >Beside

[css-d] IE5.2/Mac mess. Help please!

2005-11-21 Thread Richard Grevers
Hi, In the rush to meet a tight deadline to reskin a legacy site, we didn't have the chance to address issues in IE5.2 for Mac with our site, but one of the 0.15% (our old site's stats) of users visiting has commented on the mess that we saw with browsercam*. Taking http://www.freeparking.biz/doma

Re: [css-d] CSS validator warnings on color vs. background and"redefinition of padding"

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Nannery
Afternoon Charles You wrote; >I am almost done with a table-based > XHTML/CSS redesign of my parish web > site. > > www.allsaintsofamerica.org/new_site/index.html > > My CSS validates, but there are tons of warnings. I feel unsettled not > correcting them, sort of like getting marks off by a te

Re: [css-d] What should the selector be?

2005-11-21 Thread CJ Larson
Your problem stems from the rule stating that id/class names must begin with an alphabetical character I believe. Try changing your id of "2-1" to "id2-1" or along those lines. When I do this on your page, the "what's right for me" turns white with a red background instead of the default of the

Re: [css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will > be appreciated. Or will they? :-P > Hi David, I think you need to reduce the width of the sidebar a little because it drops in IE/Win. Besides that, very nice... Thierry | www.TJKD

Re: [css-d] What should the selector be?

2005-11-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21/11/05, Arnold Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should not: body#2-1 li#2-1 a:link { } select the link inside an > with an id="2-1" even if is nested in another ul and another parent div? Since an id cannot begin with a number, it shouldn't match anything. I suggest you start by runn

[css-d] What should the selector be?

2005-11-21 Thread Arnold Gregory
I am trying to style a menu to designate the current page. I am sure I have seen this done by making the a child of the body which is given a different id, depending on the menu item you want to style. It is a dynamic menu with nested lists. I have tried several selectors, including selectors w

[css-d] Overlapping Floats

2005-11-21 Thread Tim Zappe
I have a page that I am trying to make a form on, however if I float the form in the content area, IE renders the background of my sidebar with the same color of the content area instead of the sidebar background color. Page: http://www.western.edu/extendedstudies/register/ It looks correct in FF

[css-d] site review::~dL

2005-11-21 Thread David Laakso
I am working on a weblog for my son. Your comments and suggestions will be appreciated. Or will they? :-P Thank you. Best, ~dL -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com __ css-discuss [EMAI

Re: [css-d] Site check

2005-11-21 Thread olly
> From: Donna Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > i don't particularly like the bricks either but if you made them to be > unscrollable i think it would be neater. just add "fixed" in where > you're calling that image as background. (i think you have repeat just > add fixed after that). done, and it loo

Re: [css-d] Are javascripts a good way to squish three-column layoutbugs? *newbie*

2005-11-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> I'm wrestling with my first table-less site. I'm an experienced graphic > designer and woefully inexperienced coder. The site in question is live > at: > http://visfi.org You don't need JS to fix this, you need a better CSS layout. The problem is that your left column is absolutely positioned, s

[css-d] Are javascripts a good way to squish three-column layout bugs? *newbie*

2005-11-21 Thread Christina Frederick
Hi all, I'm wrestling with my first table-less site. I'm an experienced graphic designer and woefully inexperienced coder. The site in question is live at: http://visfi.org It looks best in FF, and has a few layout bugs - all critiques welcome. One of the more urgent fixes needed is on short pa

[css-d] CSS validator warnings on color vs. background and "redefinition of padding"

2005-11-21 Thread Charles Dort
I am almost done with a table-based > XHTML/CSS redesign of my parish web site. www.allsaintsofamerica.org/new_site/index.html My CSS validates, but there are tons of warnings. I feel unsettled not correcting them, sort of like getting marks off by a teacher, but I honestly don't see the benef

Re: [css-d] A css alternative to flash rollover

2005-11-21 Thread Jim Berkey
Check out Geoff Stearns Flash Object - with a javascript file you can insert your flash into a div, and put whatever text /links you like in the div along with the flash object. Browsers with flash will see the flash, browsers without flash will see the div text: http://blog.deconcept.com/flasho

Re: [css-d] A css alternative to flash rollover

2005-11-21 Thread Travis Barden
I've never used flash, but I guess it would be something like this: Menu item 1 Menu item 2 HTH Travis --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for that > > I will change to a but how do I make it an > alternative WITHOUT any > javacript. That is my realy problem here. > > t

[css-d] problems with tree widget

2005-11-21 Thread David Feldman
I'm trying to make a hierarchical tree widget. The tree itself (ultimately embedded in a frame or iframe) is a , each item an , and various elements and controls in each item are left-floated elements. The label itself isn't floated. It works well overall, but (1) When item labels get too lo

[css-d] block ele. inside inline ele.

2005-11-21 Thread Patrick Roane
Folks, I am trying to find a substitute 'block' element to replace my 'inline' span element which houses my image system (based off of Stu's photo gallery). See: www.cpcconstruction.net/1/homes.html The reason why is because I am using custom bullets for each image description. The problem is, t

Re: [css-d] A css alternative to flash rollover

2005-11-21 Thread ross
Thanks for that I will change to a but how do I make it an alternative WITHOUT any javacript. That is my realy problem here. //if no flash I want my alternative content to show Acrroding to this http://webxact3.watchfire.com/themes/standard-en-us/help/HIDD_WDContent_G20.html guidel

[css-d] pop-ups

2005-11-21 Thread Doreen Cowan
Good morning: I have made a menu using some of Mr. Meyers' coding which he created a few years ago. My vertical menu works fine. I decided to turn it into a horizontal menu. However, now I don't know how to get the pop-up out of the div and locate it in about the same place as in the o

[css-d] A css alternative to flash rollover

2005-11-21 Thread ross
Can I add a css alternative to this flash rollover menu without reverting to javascript?? http://www.nssdesign.scot.nhs.uk/about_us/board_meetings.php I want to add a css/html menu as an alternative to the flash as the WAI guideline says an alternative to an must be provided. Soemthing like

[css-d] IE gaps

2005-11-21 Thread artcoder
Take a look at http://collectibles.webmarksonline.com/ Firefox is correct. How to work-around IE so that there is no 1px gap at bottom of top frame and bottom frame? Thanks, artcoder (at) http://webmarksonline.com ___

Re: [css-d] Flash and CSS

2005-11-21 Thread Chad Calhoun
Actually, if you're interested in using DENG, the CSS support is amazing (includes CSS3). Not ALL of the features are supported, but it is a lot better than Macromedia's base support. It will take some playing around with to learn to work with it. Here are a couple links to check out: http://cl

Re: [css-d] Unable to fix font size in specific class

2005-11-21 Thread Roger Roelofs
Ian On Nov 21, 2005, at 7:54 AM, 2geedesign wrote: > Hi Roger > I think that I originally raised this point - not Mohammed. > The link is http://www.studleyflorists.co.uk/handtied.html > > and for CSS http://www.studleyflorists.co.uk/stylesheets/main-style > What I want to achieve is that the t

Re: [css-d] XHTML Layout

2005-11-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21/11/05, Anders Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My problem is; How do I get the content to 'fill out the screen' > height-wise, so the footer always stands out at the bottom of the > browser, even though there isn't enought content to populate the entire > screen? And _should_ there be

Re: [css-d] XHTML Layout

2005-11-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> > Hello people, > > I'm trying to build an administrative website using XHTML - the main > layout has to consist of a header, footer and content. > > My problem is; How do I get the content to 'fill out the screen' > height-wise, so the footer always stands out at the bottom of the > browser, eve

[css-d] XHTML Layout

2005-11-21 Thread Anders Rasmussen
Hello people, I'm trying to build an administrative website using XHTML - the main layout has to consist of a header, footer and content. My problem is; How do I get the content to 'fill out the screen' height-wise, so the footer always stands out at the bottom of the browser, even though there

Re: [css-d] CSS and HTML emails

2005-11-21 Thread michael ensor
- Original Message - From: "Eric Shepherd" To: "Kenoli Oleari" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:03 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] CSS and HTML emails : : Standards/CSS is supposed to be about making my client's life better - : increased sales, happier customers. I'll stick to doing wh

Re: [css-d] always having this Problem with IE and linebreaks

2005-11-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> Hi, > i try to solve this problem for a long time now: > > its described here: > http://www.beltundsund.de/cssd/test.htm > > IE scales boxes higher as they are if a line break occurs in the code. > removing the line break often solves it, but i dont undertand it at all > ... > IE Win, for reason

Re: [css-d] problem with Mac IE 5 (poss 6): apparent transparency of layers

2005-11-21 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Hi Giles: Giles Clark wrote: >I am testing a layout for a client. > >http://www.4midable.net/tpt/website/index.htm >http://www.4midable.net/tpt/website/tptstyle.css > > >Couple of questions; > >1. does this happen in IE6/firefox > > FF1.5/IE6/Opera 8.5 all display the way I think you want it

Re: [css-d] CSS and HTML emails

2005-11-21 Thread Eric Shepherd
Unfortunately (for us at least, as I prefer plain text email as well) there's data that suggests that click-thru rates are much higher with HTML email...in the case of selling toys, we get to put images in the email, with nice beveled (*hehe*) "see it in action" demo buttons, and the various produc

Re: [css-d] Strange Drop Down Behavior

2005-11-21 Thread Tod
Al Sparber wrote: >From: "Tod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >>My goal is to have a dynamically generated three level vertical >>dropdown with the top menu items being variable length and each >>separated by the same amount of space. I'd also like it to be as >>browser agnostic as possible. >>

[css-d] problem with Mac IE 5 (poss 6): apparent transparency of layers

2005-11-21 Thread Giles Clark
I am testing a layout for a client. http://www.4midable.net/tpt/website/index.htm http://www.4midable.net/tpt/website/tptstyle.css Both css and xhtml validate. BUT When viewed using IE5 on a MAC there seems to be an odd sort of transparency issue with the first menu drop down, under "SOLUTION

Re: [css-d] Unable to fix font size in specific class

2005-11-21 Thread Roger Roelofs
Mohammed, On Nov 21, 2005, at 7:10 AM, M. Othman wrote: > Thank you Rahul, Roger and Georg for your answers. > > It makes sense of course that users should be in control of their > browsers > (text sizes etc) but that actually causes a problem with positioning in > general. > > Perhaps I will st

[css-d] Use of height in viewport bij 1 of 4 divs

2005-11-21 Thread bas
Hello, I would like to know what the best way is to make 1 of 4 divs use 100% of the remaining viewport space left. Let me try to explain the problem; I have 4 major divs in my site: - header - filler (to be used for quotes or navigation) - content - footer I would like the content div to use a

Re: [css-d] Unable to fix font size in specific class

2005-11-21 Thread M. Othman
Thank you Rahul, Roger and Georg for your answers. It makes sense of course that users should be in control of their browsers (text sizes etc) but that actually causes a problem with positioning in general. Perhaps I will start looking for an alternative way to keep the layout fixed even when the

Re: [css-d] always having this Problem with IE and linebreaks

2005-11-21 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jan Milz wrote: > http://www.beltundsund.de/cssd/test.htm > > IE scales boxes higher as they are if a line break occurs in the > code. removing the line break often solves it, but i dont undertand > it at all ... "not empty" or "not full" - IE/win can't make up its buggy mind... Putting a com

Re: [css-d] IE Bug - New to me.

2005-11-21 Thread Ingo Chao
Phil Baines wrote: > I have this CSS: > > #imageBanner.bakery{ >background: #0066FF > /*url(images/graphics/bannerBakery.jpg) no-repeat*/; > } ... > #imageBanner.dairy{ >background: #CC0099 > /*url(images/graphics/ban

[css-d] always having this Problem with IE and linebreaks

2005-11-21 Thread Jan Milz
Hi, i try to solve this problem for a long time now: its described here: http://www.beltundsund.de/cssd/test.htm IE scales boxes higher as they are if a line break occurs in the code. removing the line break often solves it, but i dont undertand it at all ... maybe someone can help me out greet

Re: [css-d] IE Bug - New to me.

2005-11-21 Thread Eystein Mack Alnæs
On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Phil Baines wrote: > http://dev.netring.co.uk/iebug/index.html Strange indeed. I couldn't get around it any other way then by separating them, and you don't need to change the html. Do you need to have the id and class together in the css syntax? #imageBanner

Re: [css-d] IE Bug - New to me.

2005-11-21 Thread Eystein Mack Alnæs
> > I have put together an example of this: > HYPERLINK "http://dev.netring.co.uk/iebug/"http://dev.netring.co.uk/ > iebug/ > css file is here: HYPERLINK > "http://dev.netring.co.uk/iebug/isbug.css"http://dev.netring.co.uk/ > iebug/isb > ug.css I get a "Directory Listing Denied - This Virtual

[css-d] IE Bug - New to me.

2005-11-21 Thread Phil Baines
Hi folks, I’ve stumbled across this new IE bug, or at least one that is new to me. I just wondered if anyone could point me in a good direction over it. I have this CSS: #imageBanner.bakery{ background: #0066FF /*url(images/graphics/bannerBakery.jpg) no-repeat*/;