Re: [css-d] [tech] cached images not displaying

2006-05-17 Thread Els
Phil Glatz wrote: [images often not displaying in IE] > I don't know why the size/created/modified values aren't > available when I look at the image properties, but think this > may be a valuable clue. Can anyone shine light on what this > means, and why it is happening? I think we need anot

Re: [css-d] border-collapse bug. (?)

2006-05-17 Thread Jim Barraud
On 5/17/06, Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is more complicated, or simple..;-) > The border on a is put half inside, half outside > Put a 10 px border on it, and then a 5 px border on td/th, and you > start to see what happens [1]. > And check out the illustration under 17.6

Re: [css-d] funny space on in FF

2006-05-17 Thread Matt Tibbits
Thanks, Philippe and Scott. You've both explained it quite well. Cheers, Matt -Original Message- From: Philippe Wittenbergh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] it is a margin-collapse issue. The problem doesn't happen in IE because the container 'hasLayout' [1] which prevents the margin on

Re: [css-d] border-collapse bug. (?)

2006-05-17 Thread Jim Barraud
On 5/17/06, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > I know this is a "thanks for nothing" kind of reply, but I just wanted you > to know that I did extensive testing on your test case and could not resolve > the issue either. I tried setting widths on the divs, relative positioning, > m

[css-d] Fun header challenge?

2006-05-17 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm trying to make what should be a simple header. Problem is that I want it to expand properly with enlarged text sizes. The entire header has a background color. In the center is a centered for the page title, and at the left is an img (a transparent png logo) followed by a span containing th

[css-d] Fun header challenge?

2006-05-17 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm trying to make what should be a simple header. Problem is that I want it to expand properly with enlarged text sizes. The entire header has a background color. In the center is a centered for the page title, and at the left is an img (a transparent png logo) followed by a span containing th

Re: [css-d] funny space on in FF

2006-05-17 Thread Scott Sauyet
Matt Tibbits wrote: > I have a situation where I have a that follows a id="navbar">. FF shows a small space between the 2 "div's", that is until I > put a border around the . When I do, the div is pulled up > flush with the top div with only the border in between. > [ ... ] > http://tibbits.ca/t

Re: [css-d] funny space on in FF

2006-05-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 18, 2006, at 10:25 AM, Matt Tibbits wrote: > I have a situation where I have a that follows a > id="navbar">. FF shows a small space between the 2 "div's", that is > until I > put a border around the . When I do, the div is > pulled up > flush with the top div with only the border

Re: [css-d] border-collapse bug. (?)

2006-05-17 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On May 18, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Jim Barraud wrote: > Essentially I'm working with a table with a width of 100%. On the top > and bottom of the table are divs with a width of auto (to allow for > inner padding). These are used for pagination, etc. The table has a > border applied to all the table cel

[css-d] funny space on in FF

2006-05-17 Thread Matt Tibbits
Hello, I have a situation where I have a that follows a . FF shows a small space between the 2 "div's", that is until I put a border around the . When I do, the div is pulled up flush with the top div with only the border in between. I've seen this behavior before but have never figured o

Re: [css-d] A couple of odd spacing issues...

2006-05-17 Thread David Laakso
Ann Adamcik wrote: > http://indigopear.com/Clients/rcjl/Index.html > http://indigopear.com/Clients/rcjl/style.css > 1. Margins/padding are set to 0, yet the photo boxes have > a space between the rows in Firefox and Opera. > Try: img {display: block; <<< > 2. In IE6, there is a space at t

[css-d] border-collapse bug. (?)

2006-05-17 Thread Jim Barraud
Hi All - I've run into what appears to be a bug, but haven't been able to find any documentation on it. Essentially I'm working with a table with a width of 100%. On the top and bottom of the table are divs with a width of auto (to allow for inner padding). These are used for pagination, etc. The

[css-d] A couple of odd spacing issues...

2006-05-17 Thread Ann Adamcik
Hi all, I could really use some help with 2 spacing issues on this page: http://indigopear.com/Clients/rcjl/Index.html The css is here: http://indigopear.com/Clients/rcjl/style.css 1. Margins/padding are set to 0, yet the photo boxes have a space between the rows in Firefox and Opera.

[css-d] [tech] cached images not displaying

2006-05-17 Thread Phil Glatz
This is a problem I've been wrestling with on and on for the last few months. It has been extremely difficult to get a handle on, since it is intermittent and often difficult to reproduce. I am bringing it to this list because it may be a CSS problem; it could also be an IE quirk, and am hopin

[css-d] IE expression and font sizes

2006-05-17 Thread Alastair Campbell
Hi, I'm trying to replicate this seemingly simple CSS for IE: #mainwrap, #header { width: 58.5em; max-width: 97%; } This makes a layout that expands with the font size but not beyond the window. There's a full page example here: http://alastairc.ac/code/blogged_examples/layout_t

[css-d] [ADMIN] Re: A Fairly Complex Design Complete, wishing to implement using all CSS

2006-05-17 Thread Alex Robinson
>Finally... I am (BRAND) new to the list - please accept my apologies if this >post is offensive in any way, as I have not had time to lurk and observe the >true etiquette and nature of the list. I just want to get this done... Hi Marc I'm afraid that mentioning offering money for help is stric

Re: [css-d] A Fairly Complex Design Complete, wishing to implement using all CSS

2006-05-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
> Finally... I am (BRAND) new to the list - please accept my apologies if this > post is offensive in any way, as I have not had time to lurk and observe the > true etiquette and nature of the list. I just want to get this done, but if > a CSS-only layout is too much for this design, I'll have to

Re: [css-d] Images in liquid / elastic layouts.

2006-05-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
> I thought I could get the graphics to expand (Latin text box) using a rounded > corners method. However the box breaks up as the text is enlarged. > > So being aware of the various limitations and knowing the chances one takes > are there some guidelines to follow when using images in a liqu

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/17/06, Design Groups <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Montoya wrote: > > > > a:active { color:whatever; } > > > > Yes, but that only works when you click the button (or mouse down). > When you "unclick" and move away, the color doesn't remain behind, it > reverts to the "visited" color.

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Christian Montoya wrote: > On 5/17/06, Design Groups <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Here's an odd one...and this is purely for theoretical purposes. >> >> I was just wondering if there was any possible way to have a link >> remain one color until another one is clicked upon, using *only* CSS. > >

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Design Groups wrote: > Here's an odd one...and this is purely for theoretical purposes. > > I was just wondering if there was any possible way to have a link > remain one color until another one is clicked upon, using *only* CSS. > > For example, if you had a UL list comprised of 5 links, would it

[css-d] A Fairly Complex Design Complete, wishing to implement using all CSS

2006-05-17 Thread Marc Funaro
Hi Everyone, We just received a final design for a new website, in Photoshop format. It looks good and meets the need... And it is fully approved by the client. Now, I could do what I've always done -- slice it up using Adobe ImageReady and output it as HTML/Tables. But I recently did an output

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Tom Livingston
On 5/17/06, Design Groups <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christian Montoya wrote: > > > > a:active { color:whatever; } > > > > Yes, but that only works when you click the button (or mouse down). > When you "unclick" and move away, the color doesn't remain behind, it > reverts to the "visited" color.

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread cj
i think your best bet is javascript. javascript could change the css class of the tab and won't change it again until something else is clicked, in which case you take the "active" class away from the original one and apply it to the newly activated one. ___

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Design Groups
Christian Montoya wrote: > > a:active { color:whatever; } > Yes, but that only works when you click the button (or mouse down). When you "unclick" and move away, the color doesn't remain behind, it reverts to the "visited" color. What I'm looking for is the "active" state to stay, until anoth

Re: [css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/17/06, Design Groups <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an odd one...and this is purely for theoretical purposes. > > I was just wondering if there was any possible way to have a link remain > one color until another one is clicked upon, using *only* CSS. a:active { color:whatever; } -- --

[css-d] CSS "onclick event"?

2006-05-17 Thread Design Groups
Here's an odd one...and this is purely for theoretical purposes. I was just wondering if there was any possible way to have a link remain one color until another one is clicked upon, using *only* CSS. For example, if you had a UL list comprised of 5 links, would it be possible to hover over Li

Re: [css-d] Images in liquid / elastic layouts.

2006-05-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/17/06, Mark Fellowes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So being aware of the various limitations and knowing the chances one takes > are there some guidelines to follow when using images in a liquid design? >From http://www.cssliquid.com/resources/ : Experiments with Wide Images: http://www.clag

[css-d] Images in liquid / elastic layouts.

2006-05-17 Thread Mark Fellowes
I'm trying my hand at an elastic layout. Where the page expands according to the font size set. I know that static size graphic images are probably not a good idea but designers do use them. As an example: http://www.nicktoye.co.uk/ I englarged the text and noticed the text going out of

[css-d] testing a :print style

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Walton
I've just begun trying to use a seperate style sheet for printed output and I wonder... Are there significant differences between the result of CSS styles for one printer vs. another (as there are in from one browser vs. another)? Is there a reliable way, short of hardcopy, to see what a :print

Re: [css-d] Arbitrary footer trouble.

2006-05-17 Thread cj
this probably isn't the "ah ha" moment answer, but i'm guessing that something is putting your footer at the bottom of the viewport instead of the bottom of the content from the position of the purple bar. i'm guessing your browser window was probably in the 1024x768 range judging by how far down

Re: [css-d] Different troubles in different browsers

2006-05-17 Thread Deprived One
Thank you so much David, that was exactly what I needed! Jay David Laakso wrote: > Deprived One wrote: > >> Not quite sure where to start. >> > Same here. > It's hard to hit a moving target. I think you'll need to clear the > floats to start: > Add this CSS: > br.both { clear: both; } >

[css-d] Arbitrary footer trouble.

2006-05-17 Thread Rebecca Mazur
Hi all, I've been having an intermittent problem with our new CSS/XHTML design -- so intermittent that I haven't been able to reproduce it myself and have only come across it on one occasion when it happened to somebody else and I just happened to be nearby. Sounds real promising, I know. An

Re: [css-d] Different troubles in different browsers

2006-05-17 Thread David Laakso
Deprived One wrote: > Not quite sure where to start. Same here. It's hard to hit a moving target. I think you'll need to clear the floats to start: Add this CSS: br.both { clear: both; } Add to the html as below: To be the finest security and access vendor with the best reputation for customer

[css-d] Still probs with n7 csws2 & xhtml 1.0

2006-05-17 Thread accent2
Hi folks, I still have a problem with a page on: http://athene.riv.csu.edu.au/~wmccle01/resources/01index.html Its xhtml & css2 and was w3c css validating, but now comes up with 3 parse errors: Line: 85 Context : #container Invalid number : background-image url is not a background-image value :

Re: [css-d] Accomodation "gallery" in IE

2006-05-17 Thread Erik Gyepes
Ahoj Tomasz, ano Polsko, nasi severny susedia :D No, our companies CMS don't uses Smarty as the templating system. But I really don't need to use PHP, Stuart send me another type of solution, so now it is working fine in IE too, just with CSS solution. Erik Tomasz Staniak wrote: > Witaj Erik

Re: [css-d] Accomodation "gallery" in IE

2006-05-17 Thread Erik Gyepes
Hi Stuart! Yes that really works. Yeah it is extra code but it works and now this is the main thing. Thank very much for your time to help me and testing, you are a good boy :) Thanks, Erik Stuart Homfray wrote: > Erik Gyepes wrote: > >> As we all know IE is very very buggy browser, just loo

[css-d] Position menu to new location

2006-05-17 Thread Mr. Kim Siever
Hi all, I have a division element with an id of menu. It contains an unordered list and a search box. It is contained within no other elements beyond the body tag. Currently, it is the second element in the page, both in code and display. I would like to make it the second to last element in code

Re: [css-d] CSS 4 print

2006-05-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On 5/17/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can I use CSS to move things around on the printed page, including before > a page break? The short answer is: you definitely can use CSS to do this, but browsers will always mess up your positioning. Basically the only safe CSS-P for prin

Re: [css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave Pierce wrote: > http://lorettosedgwick.org/pages/aboutus.html > Anyone have any ideas as to what I'm missing? The IE-bug Ingo mentioned. The easiest way to avoid that bug, is to restyle like this... .friends { background: #ffeab8; padding-top: 3px; padding-bottom: 6px; } .friends p { backg

[css-d] CSS 4 print

2006-05-17 Thread MarcLuzietti
Can I use CSS to move things around on the printed page, including before a page break? -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman

Re: [css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Ingo Chao wrote: > The wrapper for all > that paragraphs that are creeping [1] to the left has a padding-bottom > and a margin-left set. I meant padding-bottom and border-left ... puzzling. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ___

Re: [css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Dave Pierce wrote: > ... But the text in > http://lorettosedgwick.org/pages/aboutus.html and > http://lorettosedgwick.org/pages/sedgwicklife.html is cut off on the > left about 2 or 3 letters ... font-size: small ... If only MS had constructed some nasty bugs around too small font settings. Th

[css-d] Different troubles in different browsers

2006-05-17 Thread Deprived One
Not quite sure where to start. Testing in IE and Mozilla and each browser works great in some ways and has issues in others. site: http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/index.html css: http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/style.css The only problem I am having with IE is in the

Re: [css-d] Problems with IE doing centered layout

2006-05-17 Thread David Laakso
Deprived One wrote: > I am trying to use css to do the layout on > http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/index.html and most > everything seems correct in firefox, but IE is not creating the box I > desire at all. CSS can be found at > http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/style

Re: [css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Goodchild
> On 17/05/06, Dave Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is too weird! I finished one page, and it looked great in all of > > my browsers, plus at the library with IE/Win. Cool. So I changed the > > text, changed the pictures, and set up three more pages with exactly > > the same CSS. I'v

Re: [css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Goodchild
On 17/05/06, Dave Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is too weird! I finished one page, and it looked great in all of > my browsers, plus at the library with IE/Win. Cool. So I changed the > text, changed the pictures, and set up three more pages with exactly > the same CSS. I've checked th

[css-d] OK, what am I missing?

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Pierce
This is too weird! I finished one page, and it looked great in all of my browsers, plus at the library with IE/Win. Cool. So I changed the text, changed the pictures, and set up three more pages with exactly the same CSS. I've checked the to "rogue" pages with the good one line-for-line and dot

Re: [css-d] Problems with IE doing centered layout

2006-05-17 Thread Deprived One
Thank you for the input. Changing it up to use a containing div seems to have taken care of the problem. Now to go poke around at the other little issues. Jay Jade Rauenzahn wrote: > I'm not sure if IE will allow you to set a width on the element. It's > best to just make a container div to cr

Re: [css-d] Problems with IE doing centered layout

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Goodchild
> > > > > I am trying to use css to do the layout on > > http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/index.html and most > > everything seems correct in firefox, but IE is not creating the box I > > desire at all. Agreed - use a container div with a fixed width. Also, try and keep your css file

Re: [css-d] Problems with IE doing centered layout

2006-05-17 Thread Jade Rauenzahn
I'm not sure if IE will allow you to set a width on the element. It's best to just make a container div to create that fixed width box, and I would think that would fix the problem. -Jade Rauenzahn On 5/17/06, Deprived One <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am trying to use css to do the layout on

Re: [css-d] Possible to overriding embedded SS with external SS?

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Walton
Christian Heilmann wrote: > Not in CSS, so that is off-topic. I was trying to figure out how to get the 'right CSS' applied to the doc. I see now that including the 'how' part put me off topic. My bad. My apologies. Best regards, Bill __

[css-d] Problems with IE doing centered layout

2006-05-17 Thread Deprived One
I am trying to use css to do the layout on http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/index.html and most everything seems correct in firefox, but IE is not creating the box I desire at all. CSS can be found at http://www.centralmiss.com/accesscontrolgroup/style.css.txt Any help is greatly

Re: [css-d] Possible to overriding embedded SS with external SS?

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Goodchild
> I'm pretty sure this is bass-ackwards, but I need to be able to over-ride > an embedded stylesheet with an external one, if the external one exists. I > was thinking it might be possible to do using javascript something like > this... > > > > it is off-topic, but I am also on the php list so may

Re: [css-d] Firefox 1.03 and floats

2006-05-17 Thread Niklas Kanthak
> Then this morning a user with PC firefox 1.03 found the exact same problem. > Is there some known issue with that version of Firefox and how it works with > floats and clears etc? Eoin, very had for me to answer without the code. Show it. Niklas

Re: [css-d] Possible to overriding embedded SS with external SS?

2006-05-17 Thread Christian Heilmann
> I'm pretty sure this is bass-ackwards, but I need to be able to over-ride an > embedded stylesheet with an external one, if the external one exists. I was > thinking it might be possible to do using javascript something like this... > > The embedded stylesheet would be included in the js code.

Re: [css-d] PNG alpha transparency bug in Firefox

2006-05-17 Thread Ingo Chao
Lassi Heikkinen wrote: > http://www.pulu.org/transbug/ministri.php?j=weltsu > > SEURAAVAT KEIKAT in the left column has a PNG alpha-channel > background-image. ... > It worked fine as far as I noticed the strange behaviour in Firefox > (1.5.0.3). Leave the URL I gave in background for a few minu

[css-d] Possible to overriding embedded SS with external SS?

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Walton
I'm pretty sure this is bass-ackwards, but I need to be able to over-ride an embedded stylesheet with an external one, if the external one exists. I was thinking it might be possible to do using javascript something like this... The embedded stylesheet would be included in the js code. On page

Re: [css-d] columns streching

2006-05-17 Thread cj
the wiki has a good list of sites to visit: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=AnyColumnLongest if you don't mind some javascript, here's another link i have bookmarked: http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/making-web-pages-extend-to-bottom.html

[css-d] PNG alpha transparency bug in Firefox

2006-05-17 Thread Lassi Heikkinen
Hi, I'm not actually sure what's the problem but here is the description, maybe someone knows what's going on. I tried to make a better example page but couldn't replicate the bug so I must present the whole web page. http://www.pulu.org/transbug/ministri.php?j=weltsu SEURAAVAT KEIKAT in the l

Re: [css-d] One fieldset shifting place in IE/Win

2006-05-17 Thread Stuart Homfray
Seona Bellamy wrote: > > Just noticed a problem with our sign-up form. When you look at it in IE/Win > (don't know if it happens on Mac too or not) the fieldset "Company Details" > is sitting against the left edge of the content space instead of pushed out > from it like all the others are. I've g

Re: [css-d] columns streching

2006-05-17 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Erik Visser wrote: > so i'am looking for a place with good explaination of the technique(s) of: > columns streching to the bottom of the viewport, regardless of the > content length of any of the columns > > through google i found in some forums tips for specific user questions, > but not a good ar

[css-d] Giving Focus

2006-05-17 Thread Steve LaBadie
I have two small forms on a page. I am giving focus to a form element, but I only want to effect one of the forms. Can anyone assist? The code: input:focus, input.sffocus { background: #8197B7; } This snipet of code is attached to a javaScript Page is l

Re: [css-d] Accomodation "gallery" in IE

2006-05-17 Thread Stuart Homfray
Erik Gyepes wrote: > > As we all know IE is very very buggy browser, just look to this page: > http://www.pripisa.sk/stranka/ubytovanie/ in FF, then in IE? > How to solve this unlikely mess? > Hi Erik, As you can see, IE6 is 'helping'(!!) you by making sure that it expands the container and c

[css-d] Firefox 1.03 and floats

2006-05-17 Thread Eoin Maguire
Hi, Am having a problem with floats on Firefox ( PC - Ver 1.03). Basic enough page, with a right floated element followed by some text, problem was/is the text ended up being pushed out to the right and ended up half off-screen. I thought I had fixed this issue as it first manifested itself o

Re: [css-d] @import media rule

2006-05-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jack fredricks wrote: > I have tried; > > 1) imported print.css for all media > 2) wrapped the content of print.css in an "@media print" rule > > but it still doesnt work for silly IE6 FF is fine. > > FF web dev toolbar shows that print.css was linked properly. > > Just a tip - Wrapping th

Re: [css-d] Lock down some text sizes

2006-05-17 Thread francky
Tim Ware wrote: >[...] >we *definitely* need to lock down the file size for the navigation or >it breaks the design. >[...] > > Hi Tim, After all (not working/accessible "solutions": fixed fonts, images, imagemaps with tables and spacers, no site, etc.): Back To Question. ;-) Are you 100% sur

[css-d] columns streching

2006-05-17 Thread Erik Visser
so i'am looking for a place with good explaination of the technique(s) of: columns streching to the bottom of the viewport, regardless of the content length of any of the columns through google i found in some forums tips for specific user questions, but not a good article that (thorrow) explains