Re: [css-d] Making Div "fill" remaining vertical space, and scroll within that space

Seth Green wrote: > Here is the test page http://normalish.com/test_page.html. This page > links to another page that shows what the page would look like if I > were to accomplish my goals. You should ignore the css on the 2nd > page since it breaks the rules I set below. It is onlt there as a

Re: [css-d] CSS Disjointed rollovers

Carol F. Swinehart wrote: > Does anyone know of a good script for css disjointed rollovers out on > the web. > > Thanks, > > Carol F. Swinehart Carol: Can you give us more of a specific example of what you need to create? It might be possible to do this with sliding doors. Brian -- Brian Rile

Re: [css-d] Using CSS for inline formatting

> I'm not sure if what I want is exactly > possible. It's possible. It's probably not working because of the commas you have between the class names in the HTML. They should be space separated. e.g. class="vcard dispemp" __ css

[css-d] Box Model's width property and Safari

Hi, I was wondering if there was CSS property like: -moz-box-sizing: border-box; for Safari. I have searched on google and css-d mailing list but I couldn’t find any solutions to this. Another solution is to work the other way around which is to make IE7’s box model behave like Firefox and S

[css-d] CSS Disjointed rollovers

Does anyone know of a good script for css disjointed rollovers out on the web. Thanks, Carol F. Swinehart __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.

Re: [css-d] Nav menu transmogrifies on mouseover

On Jan 24, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Kim Brooks Wei wrote: > http://www.thewei.com/sandbox/uajx/ > > When I mouseover my nav menu, it shifts up and down. Can someone spot > why? I can't. This: > a:hover, a:focus { > border-bottom: 1px dotted #ED2024; > } In short, it makes the box one (1) pixe

[css-d] Nav menu transmogrifies on mouseover

http://www.thewei.com/sandbox/uajx/ When I mouseover my nav menu, it shifts up and down. Can someone spot why? I can't. Best, Kimi PS - thanks for the great information about side columns of equal length. I decided I could live with one being shorter than the other. -- Kim Brooks Wei 1.201.4

[css-d] Making Div "fill" remaining vertical space, and scroll within

First of all, the content in the non scrolling div pretty much takes up all of the 200 px of height you assigned it, so it seems to overflow out of the green div regardless. If you change that to 300px then you have the room to put in even a very slim scrolling div. I imagine your main problem

Re: [css-d] Capitalize is making capitals after Apostrophe. e.g. Neil's -Neil'S

On Jan 24, 2007, at 3:44 AM, Richard Grevers wrote: >>> http://www.neilp.newwavemedia.co.uk/europe.html >>> http://www.neilp.newwavemedia.co.uk/stylefile/style1.css >>> >>> The capitalize has been added to h1. I can turn it off and do the >>> capitals freestlye but was wondering if there was a si

Re: [css-d] extending a button bar across full width

martin f krafft wrote: > I would appreciate if someone could give me a clue with the top > navigation buttons on > > http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons4/ [valid XHTML1.0] > > The client wants the bar to extend all the way across the width of > the content, so up until the dotted line. I can

Re: [css-d] Using display attribute + javascript moves page to the top

On 1/24/07, Aleve Sicofante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using the trick of using the display attribute + javascript to reveal or > hide parts of the page. It works fine except for one thing. If the user has > scrolled down the page, clicking on any of the links that invoke the > approp

[css-d] adding a side menu to a single page of a site

Hi guys, Please look at http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons/index.html http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons/leistungen/1.html css: http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons/css/screen.css and http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons2/index.html http://seamus.madduck.ne

[css-d] extending a button bar across full width

Hi list, I would appreciate if someone could give me a clue with the top navigation buttons on http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons4/ [valid XHTML1.0] The relevant stylesheet is here http://seamus.madduck.net/~madduck/abacons4/css/screen.css [valid CSS2] The client wants the bar to exten

Re: [css-d] Web-safe, web-smart, and unsafe colours

At 10:17 PM + 1/23/07, Dave Goodchild wrote: >I don't think that many designers worry about web-safe colours these days - >and even back in the day according to some articles the REAL web-safe >pallette was much less than 216 colours. But these days I think it's pretty >much a redundant approac

Re: [css-d] CSS Support in Eudora

At 8:04 AM -0700 1/23/07, Optrics Engineering - Rod Miles, B.Eng. wrote: >Or the tiny url: > http://tinyurl.com/2d8jbr > >The CEO of our company uses Eudora and constantly insists that our company's >auto-generated emails (for software download requests, online sign-ups, >etc.) are formatted poorl

Re: [css-d] Web-safe, web-smart, and unsafe colours

I don't think that many designers worry about web-safe colours these days - and even back in the day according to some articles the REAL web-safe pallette was much less than 216 colours. But these days I think it's pretty much a redundant approach. Go for sRGB. _

Re: [css-d] Web-safe, web-smart, and unsafe colours

On 23/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Government of Canada has issued its second version of its Common Look and > Feel Guidelines, and lo and behold they're mandating a CSS-driven design for > all GoC websites! > > They have even dropped support for web-safe colours, but

Re: [css-d] Rounded corner box shows only the top right corner

Erik Gyepes wrote: > Hello guys, > Could somebody help me with rounded corner box on that page: > http://socka.depi.sk/ (it displays only the top right box corner), I > followed these steps: http://roundedbox.andreas-kalt.de/, but I can't > find out where I made a mistake, what about you? > > Th

[css-d] Making Div "fill" remaining vertical space, and scroll within that space

Sorry for the crappy title... Let me explain. Here is the test page http://normalish.com/test_page.html. This page links to another page that shows what the page would look like if I were to accomplish my goals. You should ignore the css on the 2nd page since it breaks the rules I set below. It

[css-d] Web-safe, web-smart, and unsafe colours

The Government of Canada has issued its second version of its Common Look and Feel Guidelines, and lo and behold they're mandating a CSS-driven design for all GoC websites! They have even dropped support for web-safe colours, but they are now mandating that all colours on GoC websites conform t

Re: [css-d] css compatible question

phillip vaughan wrote: > i was attempting to get a container layout to stretch 100% of the > browser height no matter what resolution. > i can get it to work in ie and firefox but not correctly in safari. > instead of me giving a link to code, could anybody just tell me how > to do this? I hav

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

And there is the simple answer... I know I've been to my share of sites that break in other browsers. That's why I originally switched from NN to IE back in the mid 90s. Fortunately, I now know better but at least 99% of the public doesn't... Mike -Original Message- They have every incent

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Barney Carroll wrote: > david wrote: >> Another thing to consider: a percentage by itself is meaningless. It >> must always be a percentage of something. Now if you swallow the bilge >> that many so-called monitoring sites report as percentages, you need to >> turn that into real numbers. If Kon

[css-d] Using CSS for inline formatting

I am working on a redesign of a website and this is my first jump into CSS. I have added some microformats, but I would like to display my hCards all inline. I am having problems with the display. Below are the styles and html that I am using. I need everything to line up on the left and if neede

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

On 1/23/07, Barney Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris Ovenden wrote: > > Thatr's the one: > > p { color:blue } > > *|html p { color:red } > > > > what colour do you get? > > Red! Maybe I /will/ be using it then. Heeheehee. > > That is very good news! -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blo

[css-d] Using display attribute + javascript moves page to the top

Hi, I'm using the trick of using the display attribute + javascript to reveal or hide parts of the page. It works fine except for one thing. If the user has scrolled down the page, clicking on any of the links that invoke the appropriate javascript makes the page suddenly scroll to the top. This i

Re: [css-d] Table/Cell Formatting help

I think I figured out what I wanted to do. I just noticed that my table example in my previous mail got munched so it really doesn't make sense. Anyway, I basically determined that I need to turn off the table border and collapse all borders, then just use the cell border. Here is a sample of

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Chris Ovenden wrote: > Thatr's the one: > p { color:blue } > *|html p { color:red } > > what colour do you get? Red! Maybe I /will/ be using it then. Heeheehee. Regards, Barney __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-dis

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Making their browser display like crap might not be a "primary goal" of Microsoft's but it seems that another "primary goal" that IS DEFINITELY NOT theirs is making their browser compliant... But it sure does look pretty! Mmike -Original Message- Contrary to popular belief, it is not Micr

Re: [css-d] Capitalize is making capitals after Apostrophe. e.g. Neil's -Neil'S

On 1/21/07, ~davidLaakso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher Blake wrote: > > http://www.neilp.newwavemedia.co.uk/europe.html > > http://www.neilp.newwavemedia.co.uk/stylefile/style1.css > > > > The capitalize has been added to h1. I can turn it off and do the > > capitals freestlye but was wo

[css-d] Table/Cell Border formatting help

Hi all, Please forgive me if this has been discussed before. I have a table that I'm trying to set up a border for in CSS. The table consists of 12 columns and 2 rows for the header and at least 1 data row. My goal is to blank out the left and top border from the first 6 cells. I'm hopi

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Chris Ovenden wrote: > and I *do* want to know whether it's parsed by Safari or not What hack is this, Chris? I will remain on this Mac for approximately 5 more minutes... Chris Ovenden wrote: > Oh, and I do think > > *|html > > is kind of amusing. As poetry, it's beautiful! Regards, Barn

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Oh, and I do think *|html is kind of amusing. -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com "Imagine all the people / Sharing all the world" __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

david wrote: > Another thing to consider: a percentage by itself is meaningless. It > must always be a percentage of something. Now if you swallow the bilge > that many so-called monitoring sites report as percentages, you need to > turn that into real numbers. If Konqueror has a "share" of 1%,

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

I think, at the end of it, all I can say is that this particular hack seemed like the best solution for this particular problem. I don't particularly recommend it (and I *do* want to know whether it's parsed by Safari or not), just thought it might be worth drawing people's attention to it in case

[css-d] Inconsistent Rendering of Padding

The following html redeners inconsistently in IE6/7 and Firefox,' http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";> Spacing Floated item Edit it The 5px top padding on the h1 tag is larger in IE than in Firefox if the float tag specified on the div above. Any

Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:17 AM, david wrote: > >> That's too bad. I can't imagine any browser in the world is doing >> anything with these elements scattered in the code: >> >> > > Actually, the element is supported by Gecko browsers (in > quirks mode only, I think)

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Chris Ovenden wrote: > I am not particularly enamoured of the IE7-only hacks that are > circulating, like this: > http://www.brothercake.com/site/resources/reference/xxx/ > > while this one relies on deprecated XHTML: > http://www.ibloomstudios.com/article7/ Those are hideous hideous hacks - they

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Dave Goodchild wrote: > Depends what you mean by minority browser. It's good to always consider your > audience - one site I built had a Safari audience of 40%+. Another thing to consider: a percentage by itself is meaningless. It must always be a percentage of something. Now if you swallow the b

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Chris Ovenden wrote: > I just discovered a pure CSS way of separating the IEs (7 included) from FF > and Opera (not sure about Safari). You can read about it here: > > http://frontend.blogsome.com/2007/01/23/the-flispide-of-star-html/ So you don't want to "pollute" your HTML with IE's well-suppor

Re: [css-d] css compatible question

phillip vaughan wrote: > thanks for the reply. i gave up and deleted the files i was working > on. i was attempting to get a container layout to stretch 100% of the > browser height no matter what resolution. i have seen it done at > www.rrbroadcasting.com. i can get it to work in ie and firefox

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

On 1/23/07, Eric A. Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 11:22 AM -0500 1/23/07, Matt Dawson wrote: > > >The reason this hack rubs me the wrong way is that you're using the hack > to > >pass a value to FF and other compliant browsers. IE7 gets the > unblemished, > >unhacked version. It's the exa

Re: [css-d] drop down navigation with css (using minimal JS for IE)

Not sure if this is good practice but... I posted my problem earlier but wanted to let people know that I will be away for a few days from tomorrow morning. I really appreciate any help or input received here, please don't think I'm not responding! As soon as I'm back I'll be checking out all sug

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

On 1/23/07, Matt Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The reason this hack rubs me the wrong way is that you're using the hack > to pass a value to FF and other compliant browsers. IE7 gets the > unblemished, unhacked version. It's the exact opposite of the way I usually > work. In general, I ag

[css-d] css compatible question

thanks for the reply. i gave up and deleted the files i was working on. i was attempting to get a container layout to stretch 100% of the browser height no matter what resolution. i have seen it done at www.rrbroadcasting.com. i can get it to work in ie and firefox but not correctly in safari. in

Re: [css-d] Aligning words within a along a vertical axis ?

BH Joyner, Learning and Research Technology wrote: > I'm trying to get certain words within each to align on the same > vertical axis. For example, below i'd like both the instances of 'Ben' > to line up so that if you drew a line down the page they would both be > aligned at the same position

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dict.asp?Word=minority On 1/23/07, Dave Goodchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Depends what you mean by minority browser. It's good to always consider > your > audience - one site I built had a Safari audience of 40%+. > __

Re: [css-d] drop down navigation with css (using minimal JS for IE)

Chris Bradbury wrote: > I adapted a method I found on alistapart.com > (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns) for creating > dropdown menus. > > The method showed how to create a vertically stacked menu which pushed > out expanded sub-menus to the right. > > I adapted this so I now hav

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Bradley Wright wrote: > This hack has been discussed by Jon Hicks before [1]; it's invalid, > whereas conditional comments are not. > > [1] > http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/providing-css-for-just-internet-explorer And to think I'd thought I was the only person to use this for months on e

Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

To my query about this: >> No matter what I do, the large text box on the left shifts to >> the right just over half the width of the whole window...I've >> tried *http hacks, conditional comments, nothing seems to >> work. I've been back and forth with the BrowserCam quite a >> few times. It work

[css-d] Rounded corner box shows only the top right corner

Hello guys, Could somebody help me with rounded corner box on that page: http://socka.depi.sk/ (it displays only the top right box corner), I followed these steps: http://roundedbox.andreas-kalt.de/, but I can't find out where I made a mistake, what about you? Thanks, Erik Gyepes __

[css-d] Aligning words within a along a vertical axis ?

Hello, I'd like to create a semantically correct and accessible version of this A-Z list: I don't essentially agree with the approach that was used for this list of items - aligning keywords with the active first letter along a vertical axis to make it supposed

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

On 23/01/2007 16:47, Barney Carroll wrote: > selector,{rules} > > This is great because you can use nothing but CSS to cater for IE7, IE<7 > and the civilised world separately. This hack has been discussed by Jon Hicks before [1]; it's invalid, whereas conditional comments are not. [1] http:/

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

> The real foolishness is arguing over browser "market share" and > which browsers are "worth supporting" and what consitutes being in > the "minority", among other things. Any browser can be a minority > browser, depending on the site in question. On my web site, for > example, IE/Win (all v

Re: [css-d] CSS Support in Eudora

At 8:04 AM -0700 1/23/07, Optrics Engineering - Rod Miles, B.Eng. wrote: >[Perhaps you've seen this already but...] I came across the following PDF on >CampaignMonitor.com called "A Guide to CSS Support in Email": > http://www.campaignmonitor.com/reports/Guide_to_CSS_Support_in_Email.pdf > >Or th

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Sorry, I only just found the original post. Seeing as we're in the domain of hacks anyway (and I believe somebody said they'd far rather hack for IE as opposed to hacking for everything else)... I'm keen to re-iterate my IE# comma hack: selector,{rules} Everything apart from IE looks for anoth

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

At 11:22 AM -0500 1/23/07, Matt Dawson wrote: >The reason this hack rubs me the wrong way is that you're using the hack to >pass a value to FF and other compliant browsers. IE7 gets the unblemished, >unhacked version. It's the exact opposite of the way I usually work. Yeah, same here. I can

Re: [css-d] Unwanted div expansion in IE6 (+7?) -- color values at fault?

Tina G. wrote: > Long, long ago, ~davidLaakso wrote about something like this: > >> Tina G. wrote: >> >>> In the IEs, hovering over a primary nav option ("about us" et al) causes >>> its container, div#nav, to expand 3px at the bottom,...trimmed]. >>> >>> The page is here: >>> http://tinyu

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Depends what you mean by minority browser. It's good to always consider your audience - one site I built had a Safari audience of 40%+. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 informat

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

Matt Dawson wrote: > (Also, calling Safari a "minority browser" is absolute foolishness. > Konqueror or Epiphany *maybe* but definitely not Safari.) I think everything that isn't IE is a minority browser with regards to the human race. With regards to my web community generally, things are diffe

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

The reason this hack rubs me the wrong way is that you're using the hack to pass a value to FF and other compliant browsers. IE7 gets the unblemished, unhacked version. It's the exact opposite of the way I usually work. (Also, calling Safari a "minority browser" is absolute foolishness. Konqueror

[css-d] CSS Support in Eudora

Hi Everyone, I am aware of the Microsoft Outlook changes coming up in 2007. However, I wanted to get your input on verions of Eudora. [Perhaps you've seen this already but...] I came across the following PDF on CampaignMonitor.com called "A Guide to CSS Support in Email": http://www.campaignmon

Re: [css-d] "one-off" CSS values

Chris Ovenden wrote: > I can't agree with you, Barney. If you really want to use an ID, just attach > it to the first cell in the column of stock prices. (But why, though? > Perhaps we should make the class name 'stock_price', and apply it to every > cell that - guess what? - contains a stock price

[css-d] drop down navigation with css (using minimal JS for IE)

I adapted a method I found on alistapart.com (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns) for creating dropdown menus. The method showed how to create a vertically stacked menu which pushed out expanded sub-menus to the right. I adapted this so I now have a horixontally lined up nav with s

Re: [css-d] Unwanted div expansion in IE6 (+7?) -- color values at fault?

Long, long ago, ~davidLaakso wrote about something like this: > Tina G. wrote: >> In the IEs, hovering over a primary nav option ("about us" et al) causes >> its container, div#nav, to expand 3px at the bottom,...trimmed]. >> >> The page is here: >> http://tinyurl.com/3xbj78 > See if zeroing the

Re: [css-d] thumbnail gallery with captions

I second the motion on the Eric Meyer style. I made up a variety of styles with a couple different image sizes based upon this technique. To get the caption to center properly in IE and Firefox I had to make some adjustments in an if ie statement, which I now do regularly in an if_ie.css incl

Re: [css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

I don't see why conditional comments pollute html - they are comments, nothing more, and pretty harmless- less dangerous than hacks that may be dependent on bugs that are fixed in future versions of whatever browser you are targeting?

Re: [css-d] "one-off" CSS values

On 1/23/07, Barney Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > which leaves... > > > > 2) which as far as I see it is best practise. It gives a clear mening to > the > > cell, however it may end up getting displayed. What is your objection to > > writing td.stock_price_col { width:77px } ? > > Thi

[css-d] How to Filter Out Explorer 7 and Below

I just discovered a pure CSS way of separating the IEs (7 included) from FF and Opera (not sure about Safari). You can read about it here: http://frontend.blogsome.com/2007/01/23/the-flispide-of-star-html/ -- Chris Ovenden http://thepeer.blogspot.com "Imagine all the people / Sharing all the wo

Re: [css-d] Ahhh! Why can't I find you? Degrading Popup (CSS only?)

There is another way to do it, but IE doesn't support the popup (since IE only works with :hover on anchors/hyperlinks - maybe IE 7 works; I don't know), so only the hyperlink would work. It would be something like this: popup content? .pop { position:relative; background-image:url(q.g

[css-d] drop down navigation with css (using minimal JS for IE)

I adapted a method I found on alistapart.com (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns) for creating dropdown menus. The method showed how to create a vertically stacked menu which pushed out expanded sub-menus to the right. I adapted this so I now have a horixontally lined up nav

Re: [css-d] "one-off" CSS values

Chris Ovenden wrote: > 3) is actually impossible, as there is no element ( or something) to > identify a column in HTML. In HTML, and elements identify columns. It's just that they are useless to CSS because they are abstract - in terms of document structure they do not actually contain the gr

Re: [css-d] "one-off" CSS values

1) is not really a good idea, as it doesn't separate markup from styling. What if in a later incarantion, the width of the column is to be changed? You'd end up with some css which reads td.w77px { width:100px } or whatever. How confusing is that? It's as bad as having a class called 'orange'; you

Re: [css-d] "one-off" CSS values

James, With one-of css values I too can never decide what is the best approach. For this example I would use id's to the rows and apply the width elemets in the css. It's not perfect but it is (probably) the best way.I do not really like class combinations and use id with a class instead. It wi

Re: [css-d] CSS three column layout not behaving correctly

Artcoder wrote: > > I want the columns and the text to be inside my column-wrapper div. > But it is not when I view it in IE7.0 and Firefox 1.0. Why not? Containers won't expand to contain floats unless you tell them - style them - to do so. One si

[css-d] "one-off" CSS values

Hi... I hope I'm not going to start/rehash an argument, but I'm looking for the best practice for one-off css values. For example, I have a table of data and I want a specific column to be 77px wide. I don't really like the style="width: 77px" inside a , because I'm not separating th

Re: [css-d] CSS three column layout not behaving correctly

On Jan 23, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Artcoder wrote: > Take a look at > http://blissfulwebdesign.com/temp/debug.html > > The dotted column dividers and the left and right borders is one > background image repeated in y direction. Technically, your #column

Re: [css-d] Need help with IE position problem

On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:17 AM, david wrote: > That's too bad. I can't imagine any browser in the world is doing > anything with these elements scattered in the code: > > Actually, the element is supported by Gecko browsers (in quirks mode only, I think) for historical reasons. It is legacy cod