[css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Martyn Merrett
Hi folks, Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2009/03/putting-ie6-out-to-pasture.html ~Mx http://www.mxdx.co.uk __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martyn Merrett wrote: Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? Yes, in time IE6 will disappear - the sooner the better, but the suggested 'options for not supporting ie6' are time-consuming and don't provide quick relief for

[css-d] double borders. A different story in IE?

2009-04-02 Thread Jon Wickström
Hi, I'm trying to style a horizontal menu with double borders on the active LI menu item. There is some use of nested floating, as I want to use blocks for the LI to get them an even width. IE (7, haven't even tried 6) just gets it plain wrong (from my point of view). The double border seems

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Virgilio Quilario
Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? Yes, in time IE6 will disappear - the sooner the better, but the suggested 'options for not supporting ie6' are time-consuming and don't provide quick relief for designers/developers. This is

Re: [css-d] External Links

2009-04-02 Thread Virgilio Quilario
I'm wanting to add indicators for links that leave our site.  A little Googling included this info from MaxDesign: www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/external/ I noticed the 2005 date of the article and just wondered if the info presented is still considered a good method or is there

Re: [css-d] ADMIN: Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 10:51 AM +0100 4/2/09, Martyn Merrett wrote: Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2009/03/putting-ie6-out-to-pasture.html css-d isn't the right place to argue about which browsers one should or shouldn't support/test in/care about, which

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Virgilio Quilario wrote: working on css to deal with ie6 is really time consuming. not to mention the troubles of getting ie6 browser for testing. Both TredoSoft multiple versions of IE... http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE ...and IETester... http://www.my-debugbar.com/wiki/IETester/HomePage

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Brown
AG wrote: Here's the problem: - building a horizontal tabbed navigation bar [snipped] Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Needs to work in IE6 and all normal browsers. Something like this? ~~~ [CSS] style type='text/css' ul.tabs,ul.tabs li{list-style:none;margin:0;padding:0;}

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Martyn Merrett
Eric sent a message out earlier not to discuss/debate this further on this list. Apologies for any inconvenience and lets keep our IE6 thoughts to ourselves, eh? Ta, ~Mx http://www.mxdx.co.uk __ css-discuss

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread AG
Thanks Geoffrey for your reply. The solution you suggest will not work since the container div or ul are of auto widths. If they would be fixed... would be nice and no problem with centering. As I said, adding or eliminating links from the list condition needs a flexible container. --- On

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread AG
Bill, thanks for your reply. In your suggestion, it appears to me that if you don't float the li, all links will stack up in the center of the container. Here's the css and html that I'm using: #container    {     text-align: center;     } ul#nav    {     list-style-type: none;     

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread Jon Wickström
Here's the problem: - building a horizontal tabbed navigation bar with these conditions: 1. equal width of tabs 2. centered to the width of the body 3. preserve centering when adding/subtracting tabs [dynamically generated links/tabs] Sorry to drop in in the middle, but I'm too new on the

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread Bill Brown
AG wrote: Bill, thanks for your reply. In your suggestion, it appears to me that if you don't float the li, all links will stack up in the center of the container. My apologies, I thought that was what you were looking for . ;-) Maybe something like this is better? style type='text/css'

[css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher R
I've run into a problem first off the a links on this page http://www.thecreativesheep.ca/site/indexpage9.html don't work in IE 6 or IE 7 but work in FireFox also on that same page how does one get rid of all the extra space at the bottom of the page ? And on this page

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Ian Young
-Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d- boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Christopher R Sent: 02 April 2009 15:24 To: CSS-D Subject: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7 I'm trying to figure how to fix those HTML errors ? Not

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Martyn Merrett wrote: Eric sent a message out earlier not to discuss/debate this further on this list. Apologies for any inconvenience and lets keep our IE6 thoughts to ourselves, eh? We're not discussing/debating the article that initiated this thread. At least I am discussing how to

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread mx . cssdee
No facility to check at the moment but I've noticed whitespaces between HREF= and /location.htm. Might be that? HTML: div class=navigationpanelul lia class=gallery href= /gallery.htmGallery/a/li lia class=animation href= /animation.htmAnimation/a/li lia class=blog href=/blog.htmBlog/a/li

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Michael Grosch
Ok, I have to admit that I've been lurking in stealth mode on this list for a few weeks. Now it's time to start posting ;-) Let's see... The links seem to work fine in my IEs. What exactly doesn't work in your IEs? The extra space at the bottom of the page is IMHO caused by the height and

[css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Yazmin Media
I'm working on a CSS rollover solution here: http://www.slrgear.com/articles/is_1iswp/test.htm My problem is that my hover image is not appearing when I hover over the rollover. The HTML file, the original image and the rollover image are all in the same directory. The file validates. Would

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Wade Smart
. The file validates. Would someone mind taking a look at the code and seeing what could possibly be the problem? Thanks! Yazmin 20090402 1326 GMT-6 I think there are too many things in your css. You have in .rollover your background url but when the mouse moves to the image it disappears. Try

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread AG
The links are dynamically generated, and probably a scripted solution would be possible. However, I'm trying to find a CSS solution first. Another solution would be to simply enclose the a tags inside a div, text-align center and style the a to look like tabs. Since these tabs will also have

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Yazmin Media
Thanks Wade. When I try that though, I get no hover action at all: http://www.slrgear.com/articles/is_1iswp/test3.htm Yazmin On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Wade Smart wadesm...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are too many things in your css. You have in .rollover your background url but

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread AG
Now this solution, still stacks-up links one under another in IE6. --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bill Brown macnim...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [css-d] center float:left To: AG rovis...@yahoo.com Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 9:37

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread AG
Now this is interesting! Not only addresses all my conditions, but is a new approach to the list menu construct. Kudos to Matthew James Taylor for coming up with a novel solution, and thank you Jon for bringing this link up. AG. --- On Thu, 4/2/09, Jon Wickström jon.wickst...@arrak.fi wrote:

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Ian Young
Subject: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem I'm working on a CSS rollover solution here: http://www.slrgear.com/articles/is_1iswp/test.htm My problem is that my hover image is not appearing when I hover over the rollover. The HTML file, the original image and the rollover image are

Re: [css-d] center float:left

2009-04-02 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
AG wrote: Bill, thanks for your reply. In your suggestion, it appears to me that if you don't float the li, all links will stack up in the center of the container. Not so. Inline-block lines up inline - in line, and the whole menu can then be centered within body or whatever element you want

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Yazmin Media ywick...@gmail.com http://www.slrgear.com/articles/is_1iswp/test3.htm Re: Rollover not working. On that page, you have an image displayed in the HTML, and then you have background images that you are hoping will display as rollovers? Try this: Delete the image in the

Re: [css-d] CSS Image Rollover Problem

2009-04-02 Thread Martyn Merrett
Hi Yazmin, Try this - tested in FF3 and IE7 on XP. http://resource.mxdx.co.uk/ww/yazmintest.htm ~Mx http://www.mxdx.co.uk __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher R
I don't have location.htm on my page unless I'm overlooking it I don't have it. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:10 PM mx.css...@googlemail.com wrote: No facility to check at the moment but I've noticed whitespaces between HREF= and /location.htm. Might be that? HTML: div class=navigationpanelul

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher R
The a links don't work in IE 6 and 7 but in FireFox they work. Update: I have fixed the extra space by reducing the size of the height in pixels and so far it's fixed. I still have the problem with the a links and IE 6 and IE 7 and what do you mean the self closing object tag on line 480 ??

Re: [css-d] CSS Problem with a tags on IE 6\7

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher R
I have the same code on another page and it validates fine ?! On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:59 PM Ian Young i...@iyesolutions.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d- boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Christopher R Sent: 02

Re: [css-d] Putting IE6 out to pasture

2009-04-02 Thread Melbeach
From: Martyn Merrett mx.css...@googlemail.com Thought you'd be interested in this. Could this *finally* be the end of IE6 and our CSS woes? http://weblog.200ok.com.au/2009/03/putting-ie6-out-to-pasture.html I'm still seeing 17% IE6 use. And last weekend I figured out why. Was helping my

[css-d] Weird nav menu problem in IE6

2009-04-02 Thread Luc
Hello list, I'm experimenting with a horizontal nav: http://www.dzinelabs.com/sandbox/New_site_layout/liquidnav1.html Css embedded. But in IE6 i'm encountering several problems, probably all related to one thing: When hovering over the nav, sometimes the logo image disappears,