Re: [css-d] IE7 float issue

2010-04-28 Thread David Hucklesby
On 4/28/10 12:14 PM, 4css aka deb wrote: > I have a 3 column fixed wrapper floated column layout that I am > trying to work on. Of course in firefox it works fine. I figured I > would check out the one page that I already have 3 columns on in IE7 > to see how it is working. Unfortunatly, the third

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Felix Miata
>From your initial thread post Sunday I cut and put the XHTML on my own site at: http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Tmp/johnfranks.xhtml In order to present a contextual view of it with no user defenses applied, I've embedded it in: http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Tmp/sc-jfranks.html Note that it includes also an

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson > wrote: ... > >You must be using MSIE. That is, AFAIK, the only browser that > > doesn't resize fonts specified in px: it leaves them unreadably > > small. If you don't want people to read your

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread MEM
2010/4/28 jeffrey morin : > Thank you Márcio. I do get the point of the original discussion. I was just > pointing out an idea that in theory I thought it would be possible to get > the same font sizing. I did point out that it wasn't something I endorsed. I > have read many things about IE and fon

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Climis, Tim wrote: > > > I am using firefox 3.6. When I set the zoom option to zoom text only i > can > > increase all fonts with command + or command - (i am on a mac so > substitute > > control for PC) > > > > But, changing the default font size in the browser s

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Climis, Tim
> I am using firefox 3.6. When I set the zoom option to zoom text only i can > increase all fonts with command + or command - (i am on a mac so substitute > control for PC) > > But, changing the default font size in the browser settings does not > increase or decrease fonts that have been set in p

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM, MEM wrote: > 2010/4/28 jeffrey morin : > > Am I missing something? > > > > Jeff > > > Allow me Jeff, you are missing the main point here. A very big main point. > Designing for web is not, the same thing as designing for paper. > Even designing for paper is not a

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson < > ch...@cfajohnson.com>wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Chris

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread David Laakso
Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > >You must be using MSIE. That is, AFAIK, the only browser that >doesn't resize fonts specified in px: it leaves them unreadably >small. > > Put IE in "accessibility" mode. Ignore author's font-size. Text-size: largest. ~d -- desktop http://chels

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread MEM
2010/4/28 jeffrey morin : > Am I missing something? > > Jeff Allow me Jeff, you are missing the main point here. A very big main point. Designing for web is not, the same thing as designing for paper. Even designing for paper is not a guarantee that all will be equal seen by everybody. Can you h

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson > wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Kevin Rodenhofer wrote: > > > >

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Kevin Rodenhofer wrote: > > > > > > > This mock up looks exactly the same in IE 7-8, Safari 4,

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, jeffrey morin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson > wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Kevin Rodenhofer wrote: > > > > > This mock up looks exactly the same in IE 7-8, Safari 4, Chrome 5 and > > > Firefox 3.6.3 (all on a PC). > > > > No, it doesn'

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Climis, Tim
> Couldn't you technically declare your own font size in px and avoid this > issue of browser default font size? I am not saying it's a good idea to use > px based fonts, but it is doable and with the zoom functionality of newer > browsers you'd avoid breaking layouts. It depends on whether or not

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Kevin Rodenhofer wrote: > > > This mock up looks exactly the same in IE 7-8, Safari 4, Chrome 5 and > > Firefox 3.6.3 (all on a PC). > > No, it doesn't. It doesn't even look the same in FF if the >font-size

Re: [css-d] height and margin: auto 0

2010-04-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 4/28/2010 11:06 AM, Climis, Tim wrote: > > Would the block center vertically if the containing block had a declared > > height, or does that not matter either? > >It would not. > > > Thoughts? > >If you're in a position be able to specify height on both the block >and it's container, then this

[css-d] IE7 float issue

2010-04-28 Thread 4css aka deb
I have a 3 column fixed wrapper floated column layout that I am trying to work on. Of course in firefox it works fine. I figured I would check out the one page that I already have 3 columns on in IE7 to see how it is working. Unfortunatly, the third column sinks to the bottom of the page. If I c

Re: [css-d] height and margin: auto 0

2010-04-28 Thread David Laakso
Jess Jacobs wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but here goes: > > I have a div. I can set a width on that div and set margin: 0 auto; and have > the thing centered horizontally. > > If I instead set a height on the same div, and then set margin: auto 0; it > does not center horizontally. > >

Re: [css-d] height and margin: auto 0

2010-04-28 Thread Climis, Tim
> If I instead set a height on the same div, and then set margin: auto 0; it > does not center horizontally. I'm going to assume that you really meant vertically. > Why? why why why? Because the definition of "auto" states that if auto is the same for margin-left and margin-right, then they wil

Re: [css-d] height and margin: auto 0

2010-04-28 Thread jeffrey morin
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jess Jacobs wrote: > This might be a stupid question, but here goes: > > I have a div. I can set a width on that div and set margin: 0 auto; and > have > the thing centered horizontally. > > If I instead set a height on the same div, and then set margin: auto 0; it

[css-d] height and margin: auto 0

2010-04-28 Thread Jess Jacobs
This might be a stupid question, but here goes: I have a div. I can set a width on that div and set margin: 0 auto; and have the thing centered horizontally. If I instead set a height on the same div, and then set margin: auto 0; it does not center horizontally. Why? why why why? Would the bloc

Re: [css-d] Making a simple form look identical across the main browsers

2010-04-28 Thread Jason Arnold
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 3:45 PM, John Franks wrote: > Here is my main problem - I need it to look identical in all of the following > main browsers, including having the text vertically align in the center of > the input fields i.e. line heights etc: > > - Internet Explorer versions 7 and 8 > >