Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On 07/13/2010 12:45 PM, Bob Rosenberg wrote: > > The problem is two fold (in my opinion). > > First is that unlike with printing use, there is no "Font of Last > Resort" fall-back. That support says to use the defined font BUT if > there are glyphs in the text which are not in the font then to > at

Re: [css-d] Safari 5 / Win XP crashing ?

2010/7/13 Philippe Wittenbergh : > > On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Al Sparber wrote: > >> It crashes both browsers (Win Vista 64-bit). I assume on Windows 7, as well. > > Thanks for checking, Al. > > I filed bug 42136. > https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42136 > > (funny thing - while I can't

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

At 8:51 PM +0900 on 07/13/2010, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote about Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode: >A modern OS / browser will do the job for you. You can specify a >fallback font if your first choice is not available: > >p { font-family: font-a, font-b, font-c, serif;} > >Gecko, WebKit,

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

> -Original Message- > From: David Laakso [mailto:da...@chelseacreekstudio.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:17 PM > To: Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) > Cc: css-d; Climis, Tim > Subject: Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys] > > Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > >

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On Tuesday 2010-07-13 09:57 +0100, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Is there, therefore, in CSS, some way of specifying as a part of the > font fallback sequence that any font selected as a result of fallback > must support a specific subset of Unicode such that the page can be > guarantee

Re: [css-d] css dropdown list strange behavior

Thijs Hakkenberg wrote: > David, > > My goal is like http://www.cssplay.co.uk/mozilla/dropdown.html > In the current template: > http://2010.dierenrecht.org/fileadmin/template/2010/SDR/concept/vertebrata/ > The li elements are displayed in blocks, but I want the li ul li > elements under each o

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > > > David Laakso wrote: > >> Yes, there is a slight scroll bar. There is also a slight scroll bar in >> any browser with a minimum font-size set in the prefs at 16px. As, for >> example, on this end in: >> Mac OS X 10.4; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Fi

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

fantasai wrote: > Was there something else you wanted? Dear Fantasai : many thanks for demonstrating that I was incorrect in my belief that the font-fallback mechanism has not evolved over time; I am extremely pleased that this is the case. As to whether there is anything else in this area tha

Re: [css-d] css dropdown list strange behavior

David, My goal is like http://www.cssplay.co.uk/mozilla/dropdown.html In the current template: http://2010.dierenrecht.org/fileadmin/template/2010/SDR/concept/vertebrata/ The li elements are displayed in blocks, but I want the li ul li elements under each other. But I can't find the right sel

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > So you see no horizontal scroll bar, regardless of zoom ? > > > ** Phil. > > David Laakso wrote: > >> No particular problem this end in that somewhat behind the times >> OS/browser, nor in Mac 10.4 Camino/ 2.0.3. > Yes, there is a slight scroll

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > > > David Laakso wrote: > >> In what OS/browser? > > Windows XP/SP3; Seamonkey 2.0.5 > ** Phil. > No particular problem this end in that somewhat behind the times OS/browser, nor in Mac 10.4 Camino/ 2.0.3. Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudi

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Tim Climis wrote: > > >> http://www.uselessgeography.com/ >> > > The masthead graphic (and perhaps other elements) > doesn't/don't scale with Ctrl +/-, so unfortunately > horizontal scrolling is forced above a fairly modest > degree of zoom. > > Phi

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Tim Climis wrote: > http://www.uselessgeography.com/ The masthead graphic (and perhaps other elements) doesn't/don't scale with Ctrl +/-, so unfortunately horizontal scrolling is forced above a fairly modest degree of zoom. Philip Taylor

Re: [css-d] The white-space property between blocks

On 07/06/2010 12:24 PM, Christopher Wells wrote: > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: >> >> 16.6.1 "The 'white-space' processing model" provides the answer >> >> (second list) > > Is that the way in which whitespace

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On 07/13/2010 03:38 AM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > > > Michael Adams wrote: > >> Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the range you >> are >> using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per >> paragraph basis. For *my* Linux "Nimbus Roman

Re: [css-d] Strange border around header image in IE

> >> I'm currently working on a site: http://dvpwebdesign.com/test/index.html Dipesh, You may want to view your page in IE/8. Nothing to do with the fix that has been provided for the question you posted... Best, ~d -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ ___

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

> Could css-d give me some examples of what you think are the best kind > of declarations for items such as menu links (horizontal, 1 line) > using ratios and whatever else so that I do not run into problems with > min font sizes. It'll just give me a starting point and then I can > play about wit

Re: [css-d] Strange border around header image in IE

On Jul 13, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Dipesh Parmar wrote: > I'm currently working on a site: http://dvpwebdesign.com/test/index.html, > where i am having issues with a purple border around the header image on > every page of my website in IE. The header should just have a white > background, and works

Re: [css-d] background image - repeat, flip horizontal and vertically

On Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:24:41 am Chris Blake wrote: > Hi, > > Since that took a while I have done some research. > Flipping it seems impossible so I went for the 100% width, maintain > aspect ratio idea. > The answer isn't great here too but there is some hope in the way of > CSS3 background-s

Re: [css-d] Safari 5 / Win XP crashing ?

On Monday, July 12, 2010 11:59:34 pm Al Sparber wrote: > From: "Philippe Wittenbergh" > > > Does this test case crashes Safari 5 on Win XP for anyone, or is it just > > me ? > > > > > > > > This combination causes the issue: > > p, dt, dd, li {text-rendering

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > What I describe is actually the expected behaviour per CSS 2.1 /3-fonts… OK, even better news :-) Very many thanks. ** Phil. __ css-discuss [cs...@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > A modern OS / browser will do the job for you. [snip] Thank you, Phillipe : a very interesting summary. It is certainly useful to know what the behaviour of most current rendering engines is, but of course unless it is actually enshrined in the specification, one

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On Jul 13, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > I have presumably chosen my primary font not only because I feel its > aesthetics are appropriate but also because it supports the necessary > subset of Unicode to correctly display the characters that make up > the page. But

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Michael Adams wrote: > On Tuesday 13 July 2010 23:02, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > >> I think that there is a great deal of unintentional racism in >> the US-English-centric web that we use today, but the last time >> a group of us tried to raise this as a serious issue within the >>

Re: [css-d] background image - repeat, flip horizontal and vertically

Hi, Since that took a while I have done some research. Flipping it seems impossible so I went for the 100% width, maintain aspect ratio idea. The answer isn't great here too but there is some hope in the way of CSS3 background-size: 100%; (that will keep the aspect ratio). Only supported by

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On Tuesday 13 July 2010 23:02, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > I think that there is a great deal of unintentional racism in > the US-English-centric web that we use today, but the last time > a group of us tried to raise this as a serious issue within the > CSS working group, one of th

[css-d] background image - repeat, flip horizontal and vertically

Hi, Ok I have an image for my background. It's repeating but because it's not a tiling pattern it looks odd if you are zoomed out so far that you can't see it. One option could be to remove the repeating and have some kind of effect, e.g. gradient, that dissolves the image into a suitable

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Chris Blake wrote: > > On 13/07/2010, at 6:38 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: >> [T]he CSS fallback mechanism was formulated at a time when Unicode >> was not yet prevalent, and does not seem to have evolved to >> cope with the need to have greater control over the fallback >> font s

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On 13/07/2010, at 6:38 PM, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > > > Michael Adams wrote: > >> Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the >> range you are >> using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per >> paragraph basis. For *my* Linux "Nimbus

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Michael Adams wrote: > Would it help to create a page with all the Unicode chars in the range you are > using and ask who can see how many based on font selections on a per > paragraph basis. For *my* Linux "Nimbus Roman No9 L" may be a well populated > serif font and "Nimbus Sans L" as sans ser

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

On Tuesday 13 July 2010 20:57, Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > If I have a page such as the following : > >"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";> > > > Armenian test > > BODY {font-family : "Arial Unicode MS", sans-serif} > >

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Chris Blake wrote: > Hi, > > What about using CSS3 web fonts > http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator ? > Upload the font you want, it will generate all the different types, link > to them using the @fontface thing and bingo - they don't need that font > on their system. > > or am I dread

Re: [css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

Hi, What about using CSS3 web fonts http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fontface/generator ? Upload the font you want, it will generate all the different types, link to them using the @fontface thing and bingo - they don't need that font on their system. or am I dreadfully mistaken? BR, CB On 1

[css-d] Fonts, fall-backs & Unicode

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Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

Hi, I appreciate all the advice I am getting on this topic and it's raising some very important issues for me and I think the template creators too. I understand setting the line-height as a ratio, and the font sizes could still be set as pixels (or should this be a ratio too?). I am howev

[css-d] Strange border around header image in IE

I'm currently working on a site: http://dvpwebdesign.com/test/index.html, where i am having issues with a purple border around the header image on every page of my website in IE. The header should just have a white background, and works fine on Safari, Firefox, Chrome, i've checked the css and c

Re: [css-d] browser reports please [blakeys]

On 2010/07/13 13:52 (GMT+0800) Chris Blake composed: > 2. 'line-height set in pixels' - what should I use? It's a menu rather > than a paragraph. Unless you're happy to have your design break royally upon encountering minimum font size, containers need to be big enough for the text they contain