questions that would be better not asked?
It seems to me that it goes both ways.
As a side note, that thread was dead already.
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> @Thierry, @David
> I think the way you answered Sarah's question was insulting and
> condescending. I think the question was a perfectly valid one. Sure, a
> Google search would partially provide a solution to Sarah's query, but
> she asked the que
> I love using CSS Sprites (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites)
> But I hate making them in Photoshop.
> I happen to have one of those essential attributes of a programer (I am
> lazy).
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tional comment after the LIs:
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loat:left;
}
The two first declarations in the second rule create the problem.
You should just get rid of the second rule.
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ctually do that?
fwiw, I do not use Conditional Comments and I do not do UA sniffing either.
I use CSS filters in my styles sheets. Imho, that's where styling belong.
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Welcome!
> I am hoping that someone in the group can
> supply some great tutorials on CSS that will help in my endeavor to
> become more proficent in CSS markup.
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mment it is to help authors
spot the element in the sheet and/or document, not to tell them what we're
actually doing. That's because our short selector makes that obvious.
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Hi Philip,
> > Imho, using element#id to increase the weight of a rule makes sense,
> but not
> > when it is used as a hint to help us read and understand rules. I'd
> think
> > /*comments*/ are better suited for that.
>
> I'm afraid I can't agree
ations {font-size:1.24em;}
With the latter, once they've found the *key selector* (the rightmost one),
they are done! With the former, they need to keep going until they reach
#mainmenu
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>
> DONATIONS
>
> CSS: #container #mainmenu ul li#last {float:right;font-size:1.24em;}
Why going through so many elements? It can't be good regarding performance
and it increases specificity for no reason.
I'd go with a simple: #last {...}
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Bonne Année!
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>
>
>
>
> Just been doing some testing on this, and IE5 doesn't pick up the styles
> inside a
, either.
fwiw, I prefer increasing text-size to zooming a page for the very reason
that the former does *not* create a horizontal scrollbar (with px sizing).
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e article is: On
> absolutely and fixed positioned elements, the computed value of float
> is none, regardless of any float declarations.
Good point, I forgot to mention this in the article.
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the computed value for
display is block.
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
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<http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/12/14/the-css-position-property/>
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As a site note, "table-cell" would work too, but it requires more markup
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Hi David,
> Signature link crashes IETester 6/7/8 on Mac OS X 10.4 running
> Parallels
> XP. I find this delightful and rather amusing:-) .
> Checks on native boxes appreciated.
Working fine in ie7/8/9 on Win7
And ie6 on Virtual PC
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should be no problem per se. And the first step toward progressive
enhancement is to respect the separation of the three layers.
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> padding-right: 1em;
> }
>
> Note the lack of a space in the last selector.
Be aware that this does not work in IE6. This browser sees the above as:
.column {width: 48%}
.left {float: left}
.column {
border-right: 1px solid #333;
padding-right: 1em;
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Hi Bill,
> Many thanks, Thierry. Will settle for additional classes.
Actually, you should not have a list/list items in that span. So rather than
adding a class you'd better replace that span with a div (which will take
the padding).
As a side note, do you need that additional wrappe
> Everything I've research tells me this ought to be valid, but the style> seems to have no effect.
>
>
>
> // some code that writes an unordered list
> ?>
>
>
vertical padding will not create vertical space on inline elements
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> If having valid stylesheets is important, one could simply apply zoom
> using javascript: object.style.zoom="1";
>
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27; + meaningful name
'_' + vendor identifier + '-' + meaningful name
But I agree with you, I don't see this as "problematic".
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#vendor-keywords
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olution a "good implementation". It is not
keyboard accessible, it loads all the assets at once (versus on request),
and wrap four block-level elements in each anchor (not a problem in HTML5 I
believe).
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u'll get something much more robust.
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ence is due to the fact that in IE you're using position:absolute
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In any case, you should not use "position" for almost everything on your
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e big
> head and date the dotted line and the blurb paragraph, now enclosed
> by my
>
>
The top margin should not create a issue like that. Did you check that you
did not make a typo? Did you validate your code?
Sometimes that helps. Or post a URL, that helps too ;)
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gt; margin-top:10px;
> > padding-top:10px;
> > border-top:1px dotted #333;
> > }
>
> thanks, Thierry;
>
> looks similar to something I fiddled with just before your email
> arrived:
>
> .dotted {
> border-top: 1px dotted #000;
> paddi
> OK..Here's a link to a graphic showing the dotted line and its
> position which I'm after:
>
>
> http://thinkplan.org/workshop/pix/dottedline.jpg
Try this:
.myParagraph {
margin-top:10px;
padding-top:10px;
border-top:1px dotted #333
ee
> "margin collapsing").
Before somebody points this out:
This won't do anything regarding margins collapsing as the border would not
come in between the two :-)
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7;ll notice though, is that once you apply a border to a
paragraph its margin will not collapse with the margin of its sibling (see
"margin collapsing").
> Can I throw in a and apply a border-bottom to that or is that
> considered bad coding?
Bad coding, yes :)
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the blue box. If such styling has an effect on the
box, it is because that blue box is offset from *its* normal position in the
flow. *its* position, not the position of siblings, or document, etc. That's
the reference point for the 200px, nothing else.
[1] http://www.alistapart.com/d/c
example supports
> his logic.
Copying your post: "the blue block measures its offset 200 pixels from the
left of the red block (|#box_1|) instead of the document." The red box *and*
the document have nothing to do with the offset of that box. Imho, the
example should not demo
author writes though...
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t; the
> base layout. Use a float based layout.
I second that, that's why I was really surprised to run into this article on
ALA:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/css-positioning-101/
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nk you need that div.
Did you try to style the image itself rather than wrapping it in a div?
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ing-box:
Thanks Philippe,
In my mind we're talking background, not just background images.
The background-color is painted in the border box, but yes it would not make
much sense to have the background-image within the same boundaries.
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uld keep the content wrapper and then read the article you
posted ;-)
Or use the footer to clear the three floats.
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> > In the CSS box model, are background images understood to occupy the
> > same height and width as the outer edge of the border area?
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t;page-wrap" div in case you wanted to toggle back and forth.
Leave the image where it is right now and apply a white bottom border to the
banner (#banner)
That will do it
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Jukka K. Korpela wrote:
> >> In IE, the superscript mucks up the borders and margins -- it's as
> >> though the element block goes up and never comes back down when I
> >> close the superscript.
zoom is a CSS fix for the original test case, using is a diffe
is inside an li (not a ul), line-height:
> normal doesn't fix it.
You need to help IE by giving the parent a layout.
Try h3 {zoom:1;}
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ont-style:italic;
margin-bottom:0;
padding-bottom:10px;
}
To understand why, search for "collapsing margin".
For the top part, remove the you have before sidebar.
As a side note, your construct is really weak, I'd start from scratch. And
you should not use or to create vertical space.
-
Two of your js files return 404
I used one of your CSS file as an example, you need to take care of the
other assets
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Your css file is here:
http://138.26.120.126/CAMAC/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css
But you link to:
http://138.26.120.126/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css
via
Try:
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> -Original Message-
> From:
gmagazine.com/2010/11/08/equal-height-columns-using-borde
rs-and-negative-margins-with-css/>
No image, no extra markup, no CSS3, no pseudo-classes, no Javascript, no
absolute positioning...
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hat flag is not / cannot
> be reset by the subsequent 'display: inline' [1].
> However, a couple of times I've seen IE 7 refuse to play along, and
> adding 'zoom:1' for IE 7 (and 6) was the only way to force it to
> comply.
I ran into the same issue
ed for the *+html and * html hacks as zoom will not
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e-block in IE 6/7 is to style elements with:
display:inline;zoom:1;width:;
Making sure to not give a layout to nested elements.
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minification is unimportant unless you have a horrendously complex
> and verbose CSS file such as, for example, Yahoo developers tend to write
> :-)
Imho, it's all about perceived speed, so I'd say minification makes
sense regardless of the "quality" or length o
ly and flush left to the red
> rule.
> > What to do?
>
> if I understood you correctly.
I think it's me who didn't understand the question.
I thought David wanted the numbers below each other...
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.
> What to do?
What about using a list for these numbers? Followed by the divs.
Each one being a "jump link" to the related image.
With JS off, you would only have to "un-float" the list items.
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ded to make the sum of the seven equal to the parent's
width.
Otherwise, if both margin-left and margin-right are auto, they will be set
to equal values. This will center the element inside its parent.
If auto is set as the value for one of the seven properties in an element
that is i
://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/performance/
We were a few to suggest a solution. Did you try all of them?
I believe the styling in my previous email should fix your issue across the
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E "position:relative alone creates a new stacking
context.
So I'd add:
"z-index:1" to the ".menu-primary-menu-container" rule and I'd *remove* the
z-index declaration from "#maincontent"
As a side note, there is no reason to put this in a Conditional C
s is because you're styling the P with a width which triggers hasLayout.
In IE, you end up with two "block formatting contexts" next to each other;
so because of its width, the second one can't fit next to the other.
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fwiw, I totally agree (my only issue with filter is related to performance),
but as a side note I find the value odd.
Why not 0 instead of 0.1?
The value here should not match the value of the CSS property since for IE
it goes from 0 to 100.
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> On 10/29/10 1:42 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:
> > This article shows how to make IE6 behave (almost) like modern
> browsers:
> >
> > http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/10/28/css-quick-tip-how-to-prevent-
> a-float-
> > drop-in-ie6/
>
>
> Thanks! As a
This article shows how to make IE6 behave (almost) like modern browsers:
http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/10/28/css-quick-tip-how-to-prevent-a-float-
drop-in-ie6/
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beling with "for" attributes instead of wrapping the
controls like that.
> ... or simply unwrap the inputs from the labels and add this rule:
>
> label { display: block; }
Note that it would work the same
ly
positioned div. And even if you do that you can still remove all the
clear:both in there, as you should be able to contain that float inside
"#container" via overflow:hidden;zoom:1; or any other new block formatting
context tr
because of the font you're using, you could also make the
image *scalable*:
http://tjkdesign.com/articles/tip_5.asp
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"auto" and it will fill the parent container.
And height:100% is not a sure thing ;-)
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uestion is: How do I style such?
You could take this approach:
<http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/navigation_links_and_current_location.asp
>
If you use Dreamweaver, check this:
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the element with a
0 width.
The DIV shows as green, right? Not as red (background color of the nested
DIVs).
Also, try to reduce the test case and you'll see that overflow:hidden does
not have anything to do with this.
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The key is to keep things *simple*.
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te that it won't work in IE6:
.page-item-7.current_page_item {}
Because ie6 will only see:
.current_page_item {}
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> > 2. Get my nested list indented.
>
>
> Wrote: Thierry
>
> Try this:
> #navlist #subnavlist li a {
> padding-left:20px;
> text-decoration:none;
> cursor:default;
> width:auto;
> }
>
>
> Thanks Theirry. I'm one
width:auto;
}
I wonder why you'd want to remove the cursor styling though
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> clear set at all? Since the parent is already below all the floats,
> the child would also be below all the floats and clear would be
> redundant...
For example the parent could clear some float (siblings) while the child
would clear nested ones.
I never really thought about it thoug
they now "contain" floats more than they
clear them.
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> Thanks Thierry - I'll give that a shot. Do I have to remove the float
> from
> the #leftSidebar nav then?
No, you'd leave the float in.
The idea is to create two block formatting contexts. The float declaration
does this for the left column, the rule I sent you does this f
> Di you by any chance used any one of the following to fix this:
>
> clear: both;
> clear: left;
> clear: none:
> clear: right;
> clear: inherit;
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:
#content {
display:inline-block;
margin:0 0 40px;
padding:10px;
width:783px;
}
That way your main content creates a block formatting context [1] in which
you can freely clear floats
<http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/05/19/css-101-block-formatting-contexts/>
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at
resets the border styling.
For example: #navcontainer .lastChild {border:0}
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2F64;
border-right:1px solid #FF;
color:white;
float:left;
padding:0.2em 0; /* zero out left/right margins */
text-align:center; /* add this */
text-decoration:none;
width:101px; /* add this */
}
Then remove the border on the last link
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seem to look the
same.
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> Many thanks.
In what browsers?
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tside, will have the overflow--umm--hidden.
As a side note, this is not always true as it depends on the containing
block.
See: http://www.tjkdesign.com/lab/clearfix/overflow-and-ap.html
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uld be to get rid of the empty div you're using and go with a
technique that contains floats without structural markup.
You could try:
#dnn_ctr414_ContentPane {
display:inline-block;
Width:520px;
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This may interest those who rely on clearfix to contain floats:
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n suggested you can still use a OL if you simply remove the
markers from the list items (I'd missed that in my example).
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dding-left: 4em;}
.legal li span.num {float: left; margin-right: .3em; }
.legal li span.text {display: block; overflow: hidden; zoom: 1;}
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Hi Gabriele,
> Hope this might be useful for beginners:
>
> http://onwebdev.blogspot.com/2010/09/css-styling-form-elements.html
I don't think using a UL for this makes sense.
If you want to wrap every label/input pair then why not using DIVs? Isn't
what they are for?
> Please see sig link IE 6/7/8.
> #main p,:7 {color: lime; }
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> We could use this:
>
> .left,.right,.maincontent,x:-ie7 {}
Actually, it is the colon that dos the magic.
For example:
selector,ie:7 {...}
or:
selector,:7 {...} /* even shorter to target ie7 :) */
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this is a "variation" of the Firefox hack, as IE7 does not ignore
"x:-moz-any-link".
It is shorter, but more importantly it does not add weight to the rule.
If you try this please let me know if it is reliable across the board :)
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in CSS2.1 correctly. IE9 only fails
> when the property is color.
I think there is more to it.
Try these ones for example:
font:3em arial\9;
font-size:13em\9;
I don't have time to check all properties, but I'm sure there are plenty of
other
looks like if you replace "background" with "color" then \9 works.
Hence why I suggested to use :root #ie9 {color: teal\9;}
but then :root #ie9 {background: teal\9;} would fail.
So it's more reliable/safe to go with this instead:
:root #ie9 {background: teal\0;}
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you sure that you have IE9 beta in true IE9 mode and not IE7
> compatibility mode?
Duh! I thought the mode was switched for all the tabs opened when in fact it
is *per tab*.
So yes, it works as advertised (as the text says on that page), but then how
come my tests show that \9 works?
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quot;work": 9, a, b, c, d
Ie9 version: 9.0.7930.16406
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I just downloaded IE9 and I think I found a way to target it.
Syntax: :root selector {property: value\9;}
Example:
:root #ie9 {color: teal\9;}
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of T.
I'd agree with Tim, it is better to have an element to create an explicit
row as the implicit row is not enough to prevent some browsers from dropping
the last item (cell).
I ran into this issue before. If you check the archives you should find a
few posts where I discu
> > whizz-bang-blammo align centered vertically.
>
>
> Brilliant!!!
> But sadly not.
If there is no height set for your DIV, then line-height should be enough
If there is a height then the line-height must match that value
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parent, then you can try this:
For the DIV:
height: 4em;
line-height: 4em;
text-align:center;
For the LIs:
display:inline;
Whatever height you use make sure line-height as the same value
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t do you expect the 4th row to look like?
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