Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-09 Thread MiB
okt 9 2014 08:03 Karl DeSaulniers : > Just found this too. > > http://thisisdallas.github.io/Simple-Grid/ > > Its a grid. not a framework. no bloat. > Might be exactly what you need. :) Well, it got my attention so must be good then! I haven’t got the time to investigate it right now, but it

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Just found this too. http://thisisdallas.github.io/Simple-Grid/ Its a grid. not a framework. no bloat. Might be exactly what you need. :) Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com On Oct 9, 2014, at 1:00 AM, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: > I will just throw this out there for ch

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
I will just throw this out there for choice not for promotion. The framework I got my little experience from was twitter bootsrap. It does have a slight learning curve, but I had to dive head first on a project and learn on the fly with it. I only had 4 weeks to do the project too and I survived

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread admin
Sir, I use the Foundation Framework. You can have the complete details from their website: http://foundation.zurb.com/ Regards Vidya On 10/8/2014 10:45 PM, Philip Taylor wrote: Crest Christopher wrote: Did you use a frame work, and if so what frame work ? Since it links to "Foundation.

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Tom Livingston
Just gonna throw this out here for FYI/Reference purposes, just in case: http://sudheerdev.github.io/Foundation5CheatSheet/ -- Tom Livingston | Senior Front-End Developer | Media Logic | ph: 518.456.3015x231 | fx: 518.456.4279 | mlinc.com

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Philip Taylor
Crest Christopher wrote: Did you use a frame work, and if so what frame work ? Since it links to "Foundation.css", possibly this one : http://foundation.zurb.com/ Philip Taylor __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discu

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Crest Christopher
Did you use a frame work, and if so what frame work ? admin Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:31 AM I am using grid layout and working on a website. work is in progress. Please check : http://gandhiashramsevagram.org/new-index.php Regards Vidya Sagar P V __

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread MiB
okt 8 2014 11:59 MiB : > find one you like and learn to work use within your methodology. well, find one you like and learn how to use it within your methodology. __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-disc

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread MiB
okt 8 2014 03:24 Crest Christopher : > Would anyone be willing to create a video on when they are using a grid frame > work how they begin, up to atleast half way of the development process ? You tried youtube? I found a few with "using grid framework” (sans citation): http://goo.gl/wkFXkU W

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Philip Taylor
Philip Taylor wrote: Christopher, compare how Vidya's site reacts when the window is narrowed to less than 960px compared to how your site reacts. P.S. Vidya, the topmost part of http://gandhiashramsevagram.org/images/my-message.gif is cropped.

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread Philip Taylor
Christopher, compare how Vidya's site reacts when the window is narrowed to less than 960px compared to how your site reacts. Vidya, well done : nice demonstration of how to accommodate varying browser geometries while retaining the underlying grid stucture. Philip Taylor admin wrote:

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-08 Thread admin
I am using grid layout and working on a website. work is in progress. Please check : http://gandhiashramsevagram.org/new-index.php Regards Vidya Sagar P V On 10/8/2014 6:54 AM, Crest Christopher wrote: Would anyone be willing to create a video on when they are using a grid frame work how the

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Would anyone be willing to create a video on when they are using a grid frame work how they begin, up to atleast half way of the development process ? Philip Taylor Tuesday, October 07, 2014 10:20 AM Crest Christopher wrote: No, I mean exactly what I said : wh

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Using the link I provided as a base, I want to know is the route that I have taken correct in building and a site and using a grid framework ? Most frameworks include a school of divs and a school of classes in the style sheet, this is why I want to know is the starting method I took, the righ

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 16:18 skrev Crest Christopher : > MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then on > grids and columns and understanding them ! It does. My apologies. It should be clear though my grids are always different when the content is different. To me "a grid”

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Philip Taylor
Crest Christopher wrote: Do you mean, will this site be displayed on mobile ? No, I mean exactly what I said : what is your intended behaviour if the page is displayed in a browser window that is narrower than 960px ? __

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
MiB your message seems to go into your development process rather then on grids and columns and understanding them ! MiB Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:52 AM That really depends on your objective. I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread Crest Christopher
Do you mean, will this site be displayed on mobile ? Philip Taylor Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:24 AM What is its behaviour intended to be, Christopher, when the browser window is less than 960 px wide ? Philip Taylor Crest Christopher

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-07 Thread MiB
7 okt 2014 kl. 05:50 skrev Crest Christopher : > I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting point > completely off the rails ? That really depends on your objective. I don't use a grid framework but use my own basic layouts, that I evolve further in every project, and

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-06 Thread Philip Taylor
Crest Christopher wrote: I created a starting point of a quasi web site, if I was using the 960 grid system, as an example. I placed two divs on the page. I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting point completely off the rails ? [Link

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-06 Thread Crest Christopher
I created a starting point of a quasi web site, if I was using the 960 grid system, as an example. I placed two divs on the page. I want to know, is this the method you use grids or is my starting point completely off the rails ? [Link

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-06 Thread MiB
okt 6 2014 07:18 Crest Christopher : > know what is possible Side-note: It’s useful to know what’s possible, but we all still have to do one page design at a time to really make it possible. Anything’s possible more or less. The real questions are commonly more like "what’s needed?", "what ans

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-06 Thread Tom Livingston
On Monday, October 6, 2014, Crest Christopher wrote: > I was throwing random ideologies that exist as questions. > > The basis of CSS I know, I may not have it all memorized but I know what > is possible, if it's advanced css, I may be rusty, but once again, I know > what is possible. You don't

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-05 Thread Crest Christopher
I was throwing random ideologies that exist as questions. The basis of CSS I know, I may not have it all memorized but I know what is possible, if it's advanced css, I may be rusty, but once again, I know what is possible. You don't need a grid frame work, obviously, although if you want to b

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-05 Thread MiB
okt 4 2014 14:04 patrick : > You will really benefit by just trying it. Start (relatively) easily with a > popular framework/grid and try to build one page of your design -- the > simplest component (say the mobile version of your simplest page). Developing > mobile first can make it easier, s

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-05 Thread MiB
3 okt 2014 kl. 02:31 skrev Crest Christopher : > you cut up your graphics You don’t. You do sprites or use CSs. > and now how do you translate the design from the PSD to your grid, You don’t translate. You use PS for creating some graphics and perhaps treating photos. You design in the browser

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-04 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Yes, that was a better explanation for me anyway. It falls in line with what I "thought" was the case. It's an ad hoc situation you work your way out of by trying different things that work and there isn't a set standard. Just figuring out how the framework breaks down. 12 col, 8col, 6col, etc.

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-04 Thread Tom Livingston
On Saturday, October 4, 2014, patrick wrote: > On 10/4/2014 12:14 am, Crest Christopher wrote: > >> Suppose I download a 960 framework, I design my site on top. I now want >> to start building the site and complete it in, I suppose two weeks time. >> >> How do I translate the design from a image

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-04 Thread patrick
On 10/4/2014 12:14 am, Crest Christopher wrote: Suppose I download a 960 framework, I design my site on top. I now want to start building the site and complete it in, I suppose two weeks time. How do I translate the design from a image template to the development stage ? I've watched many tu

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Crest Christopher
Suppose I download a 960 framework, I design my site on top. I now want to start building the site and complete it in, I suppose two weeks time. How do I translate the design from a image template to the development stage ? I've watched many tutorials on this subject but the details that I an

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Livingston
http://css-tricks.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-using-a-css-framework/ On Friday, October 3, 2014, Crest Christopher wrote: > Patrick you're explanations, are, well, lacking ! > > , >> >> Karl DeSaulniers >> Design Drumm >> http://designdrumm.com >> >> __

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Chris Rockwell
> > > When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and > gutters or that is only needed when designing ? > Not at all. If the grid framework is too difficult to modify for your needs, choose another framework, or start form scratch. A grid framework, or any framework for that

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Crest Christopher
Patrick you're explanations, are, well, lacking ! Karl DeSaulniers Friday, October 03, 2014 8:42 PM Swap "framework" for "grid" and I still have the same question. Thanks patrick. Best, Karl DeSaulniers Design Drumm http://designdrumm.com __

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
On Oct 3, 2014, at 5:13 PM, patrick wrote: > > You don't have one "grid" You have a framework -- homegrown or adapted, > whichever -- that allows you the flexibility to realize any design. > Swap "framework" for "grid" and I still have the same question. Thanks patrick. Best, Karl DeSaulni

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread patrick
On 10/3/2014 4:06 pm, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Crest Christopher wrote: When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters or that is only needed when designing ? I don't understand a

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Crest Christopher
Everything Karl said and more... ! Karl DeSaulniers Friday, October 03, 2014 4:06 PM Ok, I think "I" need to be more specific. I am aware of the hand-off from design to dev. I want to know how do you translate a grid PSD to html? What is the formula for adapting

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
On Oct 3, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Crest Christopher > wrote: >> When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters >> or that is only needed when designing ? >> >> I don't understand about grids, columns and gutters is

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Crest Christopher wrote: > When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters > or that is only needed when designing ? > > I don't understand about grids, columns and gutters is if you use a grid > template with the columns and gutters wit

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread GJim
Howdy Crest, ~~~ Friday, October 3, 2014, 3:33:11 PM (USA 'Somewhere on-the-road time-zone'), you wrote the message that appears below. My reply appears here and/or interspersed within your message. ~~~ > You have a group that does the design and a group that does the > development, once the de

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Crest Christopher
I think what Patrick is saying is simple, although it does not answer the question(s). First my breakdown of what Patrick is saying: You have a group that does the design and a group that does the development, once the design is complete you pass it to the developers and they know where to pla

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
> On Oct 3, 2014, at 9:32 AM, patrick wrote: > > >> On 10/2/2014 10:17 pm, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: >> >>> On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Crest Christopher >>> wrote: >>> >>> When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and >>> gutters or that is only needed when designing

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-03 Thread patrick
On 10/2/2014 10:17 pm, Karl DeSaulniers wrote: On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Crest Christopher wrote: When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters or that is only needed when designing ? I don't understand about grids, columns and gutters is if you use a grid

Re: [css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-02 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
> On Oct 2, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Crest Christopher > wrote: > > When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters > or that is only needed when designing ? > > I don't understand about grids, columns and gutters is if you use a grid > template with the columns and gu

[css-d] Grid & Columns and Frustrations

2014-10-02 Thread Crest Christopher
When using a Grid FrameWork must you keep all the column classes and gutters or that is only needed when designing ? I don't understand about grids, columns and gutters is if you use a grid template with the columns and gutters within Ps and place your graphics on the grid template, what good