Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jul 1, 2011, at 5:33 AM, Tim Duffy wrote: > > I wouldnt think it would matter, but maybe there needs to be a space > between #dfdbdb and !important It does not matter (as in: white-space is optional) - and it is ignored at parse time anyway (except with escaped characters). see http://www.

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Are you testing by looking at a physical printout or a PDF? Sometimes a light grey wont be noticeable in print. You've set the media type in the style sheet link? eg: Kevin __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread David Laakso
On 6/30/11 4:13 PM, Angela French wrote: I'm working on a print style sheet. I'm trying to style a data table and make the row that contains the table header a very light gray so that it presents as the headings when printed. I styled as below, but it does not print with any color. Tha

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Tim Duffy
Do you have a url to the page in question. I wouldnt think it would matter, but maybe there needs to be a space between #dfdbdb and !important table.PolicyHistory th { background-color : #dfdbdb !important ; } Also a stab in the dark--css is case sensitive, is PolicyHistory possibly Policyhistor

Re: [css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Kevin A. Cameron
Shouldn't there be a space before the '!' ? Kevin __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ List policies -- http://css-discuss.

[css-d] tables in print.css file

2011-06-30 Thread Angela French
I'm working on a print style sheet. I'm trying to style a data table and make the row that contains the table header a very light gray so that it presents as the headings when printed. I styled as below, but it does not print with any color. Thank you for any advice. table.PolicyHist

[css-d] Tables and font-size and Chrome

2009-04-13 Thread Nancy Johnson
The site which I work on has an older form that is several pages long. The outer shell is doctype 4.0, tabular with so many coding errors I could only make it work in all browsers. Currently, I updated the out shell to be standards css based with xhtml transitional but kept the form in the older

Re: [css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Jim Davis
This post has links to a number of different articles on the subject of CSS forms: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2006/11/11/css-based-forms-modern-solutions/ Jim www.jimdavis.org __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-

Re: [css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Nancy Johnson
Tables or no tables are your decision. I would suggest labeling your form for accessibility. Fieldsets are also a good organizational tool. Here is an article from A list Apart on tableless forms and proper labeling using fieldsets. http://alistapart.com/articles/prettyaccessibleforms Another for

[css-d] :: Tables or Divs ::

2008-09-10 Thread Amrinder
Hello Friends I need your help regarding right selection of tags. I have created a form: http://demo.awayback.com/maknetforms/ using tables (though I love divs). I want to know if there is better way to code this, I mean, am I using right tags at right place? Is it okay to use tables here over

[css-d] Tables display problem in Firefox but not IE

2008-06-23 Thread Ian C
Hello, I'm reworking a website that someone else created, and have been banging my head against the wall a bit with it. What happens is that the tables (that were laid out with images and rowspans) display fine in IE but not FireFox. FireFox puts a huge blank space between the first row of the

Re: [css-d] Tables, borders, cellspacing, cellpadding and CSS

2007-12-29 Thread Rafael
Aaron Gray wrote: > Hi, > > I am having problems with tables, basically I want to do all formatting in > CSS but am having problems knowing how to do "cellspacing" and "cellpadding" > table attributes in CSS. > > At the moment I have :- > > table { > border: 1px solid black; >

[css-d] Tables, borders, cellspacing, cellpadding and CSS

2007-12-29 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi, I am having problems with tables, basically I want to do all formatting in CSS but am having problems knowing how to do "cellspacing" and "cellpadding" table attributes in CSS. At the moment I have :- table { border: 1px solid black; } td { border: 1px soli

Re: [css-d] tables, forms and layout issues [SOLVED]

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Ray Leventhal wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: > http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php > > CSS: > http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css > With thanks to Mr. Laasko for his reply on the WSG list, this issue is mostly solved :) Thanks

[css-d] tables, forms and layout issues

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css Issues I seem to be having: 1) Ideally, I'd like #head #general and the table to all appear as one unit, with a white background, cent

[css-d] tables, forms and layout issues

2007-11-12 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi all, I'm trying to wrap up the page located at: http://www.cprtools.net/international/inquiry.php CSS: http://www.cprtools.net/international/international.css Issues I seem to be having: 1) Ideally, I'd like #head #general and the table to all appear as one unit, with a white background, cent

Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6

2007-10-13 Thread Michael Leibson
From: Philippe Wittenbergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6 On Oct 11, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Michael Leibson wrote: > http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/table%20or%20caption%20margins%20in%20IE.htm > First problem: > The margin for th

Re: [css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6

2007-10-10 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 11, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Michael Leibson wrote: > I wonder if anyone might be able to tell me where I've gone wrong > in the following? > > http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/table%20or%20caption% > 20margins%20in%20IE.htm > > First problem: > The margin {margin-top: 50px; margin-bot

[css-d] tables, table captions in I.E.6

2007-10-10 Thread Michael Leibson
Hi; I wonder if anyone might be able to tell me where I've gone wrong in the following? http://members.distributel.net/~leibson/table%20or%20caption%20margins%20in%20IE.htm First problem: The margin {margin-top: 50px; margin-bottom: 10px;} for the table caption displays properly in FF2, but

Re: [css-d] Tables problem in a two columns layout.

2007-08-08 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Ahmed Essam wrote: > I'm making a two columns layout for my website... > I face a problem in internet explorer when I used tables in the contents > column (the right one) > As the left column is floating to the left, the tables clears the right side > of that column, although all other > contents

[css-d] Tables problem in a two columns layout.

2007-08-08 Thread Ahmed Essam
I'm making a two columns layout for my website... I face a problem in internet explorer when I used tables in the contents column (the right one) As the left column is floating to the left, the tables clears the right side of that column, although all other contents sucha s text or images are pla

Re: [css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Phillip Allard
Hi Scott, Just my two cents here but this actually looks like tabular data you want to display there (will there be multiple rows ?). Remember that tables are still valid tags in the HTML/XHTML language definition. They are just no longer considered fitted or semantically correct for main layout d

Re: [css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Arian Hojat
Need to think a bit more less row by row, and instead group things together by if they make sense. Portion full half ID 1 2 3 Membership guest silver gold Need to use Floats to make it look exactly li

[css-d] tables-to-css beginner question

2007-07-20 Thread Howell, Scott
Hi there. I'm an old-school tables designer trying to kick the habit and this should be easy. I want to convert the tabled code below to CSS-only. My main two problems: (1) cleanly coding in the space taken by   in the table (2) preventing the divs from moving around when the browser is resized I

Re: [css-d] Tables and CSS question

2006-09-09 Thread francky
ROSEDEV wrote: >Hi, > >A small question, is there a way to style entire columns in a table >(thead,tbody,tfoot) based on classes defined in the colgroup of a >table ? > >example : > >http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.html > >http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.css > >Regards, > >ROSE

[css-d] Tables and CSS question

2006-09-09 Thread ROSEDEV
Hi, A small question, is there a way to style entire columns in a table (thead,tbody,tfoot) based on classes defined in the colgroup of a table ? example : http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.html http://101.rosedev.nl/testbase/csstable.css Regards, ROSE Development Silvester Kok ___

[css-d] Tables, Print Styles and IE7

2006-08-08 Thread L. Robinson
Hi all, I came upon a Firefox bug when a 7-page order came out as 3 pages when printed. Gunlaug had the answer with table,td { height: 100%; } here: http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/76423 With this fix, though, when the same order is printed in IE7, each row of the table print

[css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Kenoli Oleari
:26:21 -0500 > From: "Austin, Darrel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that > works in IE...) > To: > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > A.courts.state.mn.us> > > Content-Typ

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
>> What about using a min-width value to prevent the problem? > Because I'm not in control of the content, therefore, someone can > always put something wider in the content area than any min-width > attribute I set. > > Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in > control o

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout thatworksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Bryce Fields
On 4/11/06, Austin, Darrel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are two main culprits: > > - large images (which I think overflow: hidden would be fine for) > - semi-large tables (alas, a necessity for some of our data) Think you can post an example w/ the typical offenders? -- Bryce Fields www.

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Ideally, if someone WANTS to put in a really wide chunk of content, I'd > like them to be able to do it. Alas, the page would have to scroll > horizontally, but at least they could do it. What about an overflow: auto on the content section. That way they'd be able to scroll horizontally, too, bu

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout thatworksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
> I've had much success in avoiding this problem w/ a judicious > use of overflow:hidden Well, we can't HIDE the content ;o) I did try overflow: scroll, but that, while works, is goofy looking and I'm afraid will just confuse most folks that encounter it. There are two main culprits: - large

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
> In any case, if you cannot control how wide the main content > will be then you either > > a) have a very bad CMS that allows the editors too much > freedom in designing the page rather than editing content or It's our own CMS and we can only restrict content editing to a point. If somone nee

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in control > of the content. Alas, this being a CMS that, while we try to 'police' we > simply can not enforce to the fullest extent of the 'content law' ;o) This is a good chance to plug my project on making CMS-ready CSS designs ava

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Bryce Fields
Darrel, I've had much success in avoiding this problem w/ a judicious use of overflow:hidden and/or using relative positioning instead of floats. An example is here: http://sandbox.royalrodent.com/threecol/. NOTES AND DISCLAIMERS: there are several different alternate stylesheets included on th

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
> well isn't that quite obvious? if you don't wan't it to drop, > you simply can't make them too wide. I'm in control of the template. Not how wide the content inside the template is on a page-by-page basis. > i think you should look > for something like an "auto resizeable columns" tutorial. n

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Austin, Darrel
> What about using a min-width value to prevent the problem? Because I'm not in control of the content, therefore, someone can always put something wider in the content area than any min-width attribute I set. Seems like all the 3-column layouts work great if one is also in control of the conte

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Rizky
> > Austin, Darrel wrote: > > Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that > > the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: > > > > http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts > > > > Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem > > whe

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-11 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Austin, Darrel wrote: > Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that > the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: > > http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts > > Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem > where if one of the c

Re: [css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that worksin IE...)

2006-04-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Austin, Darrel wrote: > Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that > the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: > > http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts > > Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem > where if one of the

[css-d] Tables it is! (no luck finding a 3-column layout that works in IE...)

2006-04-10 Thread Austin, Darrel
Well, I've looked through the exhaustive list of 3 column layouts that the Wiki crew has so remarkably maintained: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts Alas, I couldn't find a single layout that prevented the IE/PC problem where if one of the columns has content too wide, it dr

Re: [css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread Jim Barraud
This is an excellent write-up: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200410/bring_on_the_tables/ On 2/9/06, Zoe M. Gillenwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > jeremy wrote: > > I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. > > any good recommendations? > > > > Jeremy, > > This a

Re: [css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
jeremy wrote: > I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. > any good recommendations? > Jeremy, This a question about HTML/XHTML, not CSS, so it doesn't belong on this list. You will have better results asking it on another list, such as one of the ones listed here:

Re: [css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread David Dorward
On 09/02/06, jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. > any good recommendations? http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/tables.html -- David Dorward

[css-d] tables

2006-02-09 Thread jeremy
I am looking for a good tutorial on creating Tables that validate. any good recommendations? -jeremy __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7b2 testing hub -- http://css-discuss.incut

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 11:38:42AM -0500, David Laakso wrote: > In addition to Martin's suggestions, start with a proper doctype (you > have none now; consequently, ie is in quirks mode) and validate the > markup. That sure is a lot of code for a banner. I knew someone would comment about about

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread David Laakso
Bill Moseley wrote: >I'm trying to move a table-based design to css layout... >Here's the table layout that was given to me: >http://hank.org/demos/bannertable.html >http://hank.org/demos/global.css >Here's the css version: >http://hank.org/demos/banner.html >http://hank.org/demos/

Re: [css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Martin Heiden
Bill, on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 16:23 Bill Moseley wrote: > 1) The table version has an explicit width and so shrinking the window > doesn't effect the design (just requires scrolling). In the css > version the "DO SOMETHING" links starts wrapping. I'm not really sure > what the "correct

[css-d] Tables to CSS design - banner

2005-12-27 Thread Bill Moseley
I'm trying to move a table-based design to css layout, and I have a few questions. I'm not trying to make it a perfect match (I'm not the designer) but I want to get it close, and use it to answer a few questions I have. Here's the table layout that was given to me: http://hank.org/demos/ban

Re: [css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-26 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL > (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing > browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. > It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a > problem. Flo

[css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-25 Thread 4tune
Hi, please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a problem. Sorry for poor English.

[css-d] Tables aren't wrapping like images do

2005-11-25 Thread 4tune
Hi, please advice me any code that will make the tables in this URL (http://freenet.am/~mib/Gtest.html) wrap normally, when resizing browser window, or changing monitor's resolution. It's ok when tables have the same size, but when they don't, it's a problem. Sorry for poor English. ___

Re: [css-d] Tables and Vertical Alignment

2005-11-01 Thread Roger Roelofs
Richard, On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:27 AM, Richard Brown wrote: > Hi Guys > > I have been styling a site at: > catparid=347&merchant=Wilsons> > > The css is embeded. I have used tables but cannot get to grips with > vertical-alignment. I have

[css-d] Tables and Vertical Alignment

2005-11-01 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Guys I have been styling a site at: The css is embeded. I have used tables but cannot get to grips with vertical-alignment. I have styled the tables using css and used vertical-alignment: top; to get

Re: [css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Haneda
on 10/12/05 6:46 PM, Christian Montoya at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You set the td and table to 1em, that makes it 1 em times the page's .8 em > which equals .8 em. Rather than .8 em times .8 em which is .64 em. See? > > Also, have you tried setting the table to font-size:inherit? I haven't trie

Re: [css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Christian Montoya
> Setting the td and table to a specific font size of the > same, I think, if I remember, makes the fonts smaller than the .8em, can > someone tell me whats happening here and how you work around it? You set the td and table to 1em, that makes it 1 em times the page's .8 em which equals .8 em. R

[css-d] Tables

2005-10-12 Thread Scott Haneda
I have been meaning to ask this, and I can not remember the exact case, but I am sure it is basic to most of you. If I set a overall font-size, for example: .wrapper { font-size: .8em; } I then wrap the entire page in that, any table I use, seems to not follow that font size. Setting the td

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread Christian Montoya
If web design was easy, companies wouldn't pay hundreds, even thousands of dollars for great web sites. CSS is about learning to do it right. I can assure you that once you learn the techniques of CSS, you'll find it's a lot faster than designing with tables. You just have to keep working on it. Su

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread shlomi asaf
*hey guys* thanks so much for your replies *cristina*, have u found your css fails? mine never fall down. ill read more in details your email, later on- promise :) *dwain, **cristina, *look at this example, plz enlighten my eyes if im doing something wrong. http://www.shlomiasaf.com/CSS/nav/hori

Re: [css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread Kristina Floyd
shlomi asaf wrote: I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's im trying to figure what is the "golden path" Hi IMHO it shouldn't be a tables Vs divs argument - because both have their place when correctly marked up. It should be a "tables for formatting" Vs CSS argument

[css-d] tables VS divs

2005-09-22 Thread shlomi asaf
HI Guys I'm facing now the dilemma between working with tables or div's im trying to figure what is the "golden path" Sometimes div's seems to be overkilling achievement when I'm working with a layout of 3 standing columns and one should relate to his brother height Even though div's are so funct

Re: [css-d] Tables or Lists - Editing

2005-07-22 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:53 PM 7/22/2005, L Coulson wrote: Thanks again to Paul and Martin for help with laying out the products. I have been putting the parts together as both had things I needed, and this is where I am. http://www.kingfisherdesigns.com/Test/rings2.htm The problem I am seeing here is that the

[css-d] Tables or Lists - Editing

2005-07-22 Thread L Coulson
Thanks again to Paul and Martin for help with laying out the products. I have been putting the parts together as both had things I needed, and this is where I am. http://www.kingfisherdesigns.com/Test/rings2.htm The problem I am seeing here is that the top two product descriptions don't show

Re: [css-d] Tables & Text

2005-07-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 08:35 PM 7/17/2005, Lst Recv wrote: If I set properties of a td, such as margin and padding, do they apply to the td in relation to other cells, or to the text within the td? It depends -- margins separate an object from adjacent objects, while padding separates the perimeter of an object f

[css-d] Tables & Text

2005-07-17 Thread Lst Recv
If I set properties of a td, such as margin and padding, do they apply to the td in relation to other cells, or to the text within the td? Is there anyway to set the margin, padding, and alignment for all text *within* a td? How do I have two td's, with background colors, appear flush together, w

[css-d] Tables and 100% height

2005-06-22 Thread Niek Emmen
Hi there, I've got a problem with a table that has been stretched out to 100% height. In FF it works fine, but in IE it is messed up (big surprise!). The table consists of two rows, the height of the main-table is 100% and the height of top-row is 152px, the height of other row (the content-are