Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-09 Thread Che
-Caveat Lector- At 08:16 PM 12/6/98 -0500, M. A. Johnson wrote: >Several major turning points mark the reversal of this [Constitutional >enumerated powers] ethic. The first was the passage in 1913 of the >Sixteenth Amendment, which permitted a federal income tax. This was >the first major tax

Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism]

1998-12-08 Thread Robert Tatman
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > On 5 Dec 98 , M. wrote: > > > Contrary to widely held beliefs, capitalism is not a system which > > exploits a large portion of society for the sake of a small minority > > of wealthy capitalists. Ironically, it is actually sociali

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry I did not make my self clear. I was not looking for your definition of 'Pure Capitalism.'What I wanted to know was if you so strongly support a complete "Laissez faire capitalism" how would that be different from what happened b

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread MSchmie711
-Caveat Lector- I am sorry I did not make my self clear. I was not looking for your definition of 'Pure Capitalism.'What I wanted to know was if you so strongly support a complete "Laissez faire capitalism" how would that be different from what happened before in what I consider a very barbaric

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread MSchmie711
-Caveat Lector- DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds i

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread MSchmie711
-Caveat Lector- Any economist will tell you in order for capitalism to thrive you must have a constant expanding. Well, we live in a finite word so depressions are built in. As for the myth of so-called 'Robber Barons' I live in Pittsburgh Pa. and I have learned enough of my regions history of

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please enlighten me as to what is "pure capitalism" . MJ: That was *YOUR* phrase. As to Capitalism, that was defined at the beginning of this thread which was in response to another incorrectly labelling 'apples' as 'oranges' and BLAMING capitalism

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-07 Thread MSchmie711
-Caveat Lector- Please enlighten me as to what is "pure capitalism" . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-06 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We tried "pure capitalism" once it was called the 1900s and the industrial revolution. Every one seems to forget about how nice it was. Try reading about how great it worked how every time a robber baron made more money his workers got

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-06 Thread MSchmie711
-Caveat Lector- We tried "pure capitalism" once it was called the 1900s and the industrial revolution. Every one seems to forget about how nice it was. Try reading about how great it worked how every time a robber baron made more money his workers got nothing.Not to mention the depressions that

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-06 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- MJ wrote: A totalitarian state thrives on propaganda, and there is no more effective way to limit thought than to control the language itself. By changing definitions of words through continual association, any serious discussion involving the conce

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-06 Thread BStokes45
-Caveat Lector- MJ wrote: << A totalitarian state thrives on propaganda, and there is no more effective way to limit thought than to control the language itself. By changing definitions of words through continual association, any serious discussion involving the concepts that t

Re: [CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-06 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- On 5 Dec 98 , M. wrote: > Contrary to widely held beliefs, capitalism is not a system which > exploits a large portion of society for the sake of a small minority > of wealthy capitalists. Ironically, it is actually socialism that > causes the systematic exploitation of labor.

[CTRL] Apples and Oranges: REDEFINING Capitalism

1998-12-05 Thread M. A. Johnson
-Caveat Lector- A totalitarian state thrives on propaganda, and there is no more effective way to limit thought than to control the language itself. By changing definitions of words through continual association, any serious discussion involving the concepts that the words repres