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> > Kris Millegan wrote:
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Brain researchers find 'God module'
Los Angeles Times
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NEW ORLEANS -- No one knows why humanity felt its first religious
stirrings, but researchers at University of California, San Diego, reported
Tuesday that the
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in the
stead of the Covenant that God has made with Israel from generation to
generation to the end of this earth age.
eagle 1
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y lusting after Asherah in her high places."
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He has a more special place for his demise).
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> eagle 1
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Genesis 3:1 KJV. Subtil, not subtile. Archaic spelling of subtle.
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In a message dated 12/19/99 9:15:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>(Still LOL about satan under the little tiles... that's funny!)
>If it matters, Satan is alive and well and being held in heaven until
>Michael releases him for a very special purpose... which you can read abou
27;hell', as of
yet. He has a more special place for his demise).
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> -Ca
> I simply cannot let pass without comment.
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tatman, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 12:01 PM
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> &
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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
>Well then, with all that said...
>It stands to reason that the Biblical account of Lucifer's beauty should
>also be considered. In Genesis he was called the "Serpent", the most
>subtile of all the beasts... (this includes man).
Can you tell
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On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
>I vary to differ with you.
>IF the woman Hosea married, ever had relations with a married client during
>the course of her business, she became an adultress. That title, or "sin",
>is never removed, except by the grace or pardon of God.
Perha
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>Beauty of the physical entity is not the most desired.
>It is more the beauty within that is to be desired.
An appropriate thing to consider in this day of media-manufactured "beautiful
people," when no one is
eagle 1
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Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 6:34 AM
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> Wow. At least two people (notably John H. Taylor
will leave it at that.
eagle 1
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 1999 7:48 AM
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> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Eagle
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>even when she made a living as a whore,
More likely she was a worshiper of Ashera or Astarte or whatever She was
called in the local dialect, and as such practiced ritual prostitution as
part her religion. If so, once a year she turned a single trick. The money
went to charity
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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
>There is a difference between "sin" and "disobedience".
>The two are not equal; nor do they have the same connotations.
>Example: God ordered Hosea to marry a whore - Hosea 1:2. He "obeyed" ...
>but technically, he "sinned", because he became
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Wow. At least two people (notably John H. Taylor and Robert Tatman) jumped
in with the correct response, in BALLPARK terms, but NEITHER zeroed in on the
RELEVANT passages in the Old Testament regarding the UGLINESS of the
"Suffering Servant" -- allegedly Jesus Christ, as Biblica
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writes:
> << is said to have "spilled his seed on the ground". God then kills Onan.
> Personally I think Onan was killed for disobeying God and not for the
> masturbation, or the spilling of the
f
those customs.
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> In a message dated 12/16/1999 7:20:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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<< is said to have "spilled his seed on the ground". God then kills Onan.
Personally I think Onan was killed for disobeying God and not for the
masturbation, or the spilling of the seed.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << his tremor
> caused him to masturbate, which is a sin. >>
>
> I've heard a lot of strange things from Christian beliefs, but this is the
> first I've heard of this. God denies ug
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> --- earthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You know what I think Paul's defect was. Now I am no scholar so don't
> &g
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Onan's sin was not masturbation; it was coitus interruptus, refusing to
"bring up seed unto his dead brother for an inheritance" by
impregnating his brother's widow, as required by Jewish law in OT
times.
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--- Terry Trainor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Well, as long as we are speculating, I always figured that Paul
> was afflicted with severe nervous disorder, which caused an
> uncontrollable trembling of his extremities. This troubled him
> so much because wh
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> You know what I think Paul's defect was. Now I am no scholar so don't
> be
> offended, but I have been reading between the lines of some
> information
> lately, and I think he may have been a homosexual.
> He seems to
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> In a message dated 99-12-16 14:51:57 EST, you write:
>
> << his tremor
> caused him to masturb
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In a message dated 99-12-16 14:51:57 EST, you write:
<< his tremor
caused him to masturbate, which is a sin. >>
I've heard a lot of strange things from Christian beliefs, but this is the
first I've heard of this. God denies ugly Christians this only form of
relief? I don't r
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> Terry, I didn't say I *believed* that hypothesis...only that someone
> suggested it. (As it happens, it was Robert Graves in a novel
> called *King
> Jesus*, which is probably
, which is a sin.
No offense from me either - just a thought.
:^)
AmPat
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the Truth, and the
Life. I don't need physical proof to know that.
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Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:47 PM
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> In a message dated 99-12-14 14:08:00 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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age-
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> Indeed, there is some evidence that
> Jesus deliberately
> sought to embody *all* of the many
*all* of the many different messianic images found in the
Hebrew Scriptures.
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&
unished by God for my failures.
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> It *is* in Second Isaiah, b
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> In a message dated 99-12-14 13:52:52 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >Actually, there is
to be G-D?
53:11 "With his knowledge the righteous one, my Servant, will cause many to
be just." Note again the correct translation: the Servant will cause many to
be just, he will not "justify the many." The Jewish mission is to serve as a
"light to the nations" whic
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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Eagle 1 wrote:
>As far as Jesus with dark complexion? Who really knows? His body was never
>found. And really, what does it matter what color his skin was? However,
>if we follow the heritage, his skin was most likely what we know today as
>European cauca
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>Let me ask you this ... if there are not manuscripts and or written notes
>and or notations, who did the King James Committee copy their works from?
>It is my understanding that there are five copies of the Se
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>This is also why historians often disagree about the authenticity of Paul's
>writings, and often renounce his writings, because the handwriting varies
>in more than one copy of the manuscript notations.
Beg t
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>Actually, there is a sort of underground tradition, mostly in the later New
>Testament apocrypha, that Jesus was in fact an ugly man ...
That tradition seems to have originated with one of the seldom-quoted Ol
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> Let me ask you this Kris, if there are not manuscripts and or
> written notes
> and or notations, who did the King James Committee copy their works
> from?
> It is my understanding that there are five copies of the S
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> In a message dated 12/14/99 11:08:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >This is why he had others write for him so often, such as Luke and
> Timothy.
> >This is also why historians o
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> Let me ask you this Kris, if there are not manuscripts and
> or written notes
> and or notati
;
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> In a message dated 12/14/99 11:08:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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> >This is why he had others write for him so often, such as Luke a
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>This is why he had others write for him so often, such as Luke and Timothy.
>This is also why historians often disagree about the authenticity of Paul's
>writings, and often renounce his writings, because the h
quot;Tatman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Actually, there is a sort of underground tradition, mostly in the later
New
> Testament apocry
meaning in Greek, one
meaning of its Latin homonym *paulus* is "lame".
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> I would agree with the dark complexion; probably look like
> someone that would not be allowed to sit at the front of
> the bus in the
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--- YnrChyldzWyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> More of a chance of him looking like Arafat than Allen...
>
If that's the case, Jesus would truly have my pity, 'cause Arafat is
ONE PLUG UGLY DUDE!
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> >The TRUTH is that Jesus probably looked like Woody Allen without
&
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>The TRUTH is that Jesus probably looked like Woody Allen without
>glasses. Or perhaps, Gene Wilder. Or, if Christians are really lucky,
>Bernard Schwartz a.k.a. Tony Curtis.
The TRUTH is that Jesus would probably NOT have looked like the men you
mentioned, who are of European
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In a message dated 99-12-13 18:03:51 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>The TRUTH is that Jesus probably looked like Woody Allen without glasses.
>Or perhaps, Gene Wilder. Or, if Christians are really lucky, Bernard Schwartz
>a.k.a. Tony Curtis.
Personally, I like the unprepossess
, 1999 12:05 PM
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> Das GOAT wrote:
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> > By DAVID CRARY
> > .c The Associated Press
> >
> > NEW YORK (
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According to a routine by comedy group Travesty Limited, from the late
70s:
God (to Jesus, before sending him to earth): Whenever they paint your
picture, you're gonna look like a gay Norwegian.
Jesus: What'll I really look like?
God: Frank Zappa!
Jesus: What's my name gonna
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> Updated Jesus Image Has Dark Skin
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> By DAVID CRARY
> .c The Associated Press
>
> NEW YORK (AP) - A painting of a dark-skinned Jesus, by an artist who used a
> woman as a model, has been selected by a Catholic publication as the winner
>
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Some one sent a web site the other day that had the image of Diana as
Madonna. Could whoever did that please do it again?
Thanks
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Updated Jesus Image Has Dark Skin
By DAVID CRARY
.c The Associated Press
NEW YORK (AP) - A painting of a dark-skinned Jesus, by an artist who used a
woman as a model, has been selected by a Catholic publication as the winner
of its contest to update the image of Christ for the
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