Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2009-02-12 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
I didn't followed this thread any longer, but given that a friend of mine pointed it to me yesterday and I am explicity called in... D. Baushke (one of the original CVS developers from 20 odd years ago) pointed out recently on the gnu.cvs.help newsgroup that in his opinion CVS should ALWAYS

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2009-02-12 Thread Arthur Barrett
Luigi, Thank you for your feedback. We cannot accept donations - there are laws that govern this in most countries and since we are software developers not lawyers it is better for us to stick to developing software; to support the project we invite people to purchase CVS Suite or CM Suite and

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-21 Thread Arthur Barrett
Luigi, With EVS almost done now I finally had time to reply to the last points you made. Taking the analogy a step further: Luigi (and others) appear to be suggesting Not at all. You choose the Open Source model, not us. It is perfectly valid under the GPL open source license to both

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-12 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
Taking the analogy a step further: Luigi (and others) appear to be suggesting Not at all. You choose the Open Source model, not us. I just said that IMHO the value of the actual CVSNT suite is not appealing enough to users. Believe me, I wish I could buy a package with a good SMC from top to

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-11 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
6) A truly visual and robust Release Manager that supports Unix Try CruiseControl, available both in Java and thus running on any OS, or in a .NET clone. It's open source, not much visual, but it won't just release your code. It will check it out, compile it, run tests, tag your repository

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-11 Thread Fabio D'Alfonso
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +39.06.874.599.581 From: Howard Ha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:41 AM To: cvsnt users list cvsnt@cvsnt.org Subject: Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages Just wanted to add some feedback

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
I always resisted my developers will to move to Subversion, you just gave them another reason. -- Luigi D. Sandon ___ cvsnt mailing list cvsnt@cvsnt.org http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt Upgrade to CVS Suite for more features and

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Tony Hoyle
Luigi D. Sandon wrote: But of course it won't work if you use a GUI on top of CVS that doesn't support it - unless one recompiles them too. And as I noted in a previous post, the lack of a good GUI (IMHO Tortoise isn't, saw too many users did the wrong thing due to the shell integration,

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Arthur Barrett
Thanks all on your feedback about the advertising in the commit messages. I have created a new FAQ to make it clearer how to disable this: http://www.march-hare.com/cvspro/faq/faq2.asp#30 Let me also take this opportunity to clear up some issues raised in this thread: 1) we are no longer

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
Really, there are so many clients out there that it's not something that really factors into it.. and there are as many different ways of interacting with a repository as there are clients. Everyone has their favourites - the key to making it all work is at the server side. Probably most

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Tony Hoyle
Luigi D. Sandon wrote: it's free and they already paid the GUI to make it work. Most managers who sign the bill don't understand very well why we should by a VCS and then buy a GUI separately. Most peopple don't buy the GUI separately, they generally use what they have.. eg. Visual Studio

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Tony Hoyle
Fabio D'Alfonso wrote: Hi, just to say that I agree completely with Luigi. You should go proprietary, if you are no longer satified with open source model. We really like the open source model.. evs is also mostly open source and will likely become more so over time. Adding a small

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
Most peopple don't buy the GUI separately, they generally use what they have.. eg. Visual Studio or Eclipse. We also ship Tortoise which is a Those using VS or Eclipse - which are not the only development environments on the planet... and I am afraid our IDE is going to target Subversion.

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
-M message Log message. It looks it does not work. I get the message anyway. -- Luigi D. Sandon ___ cvsnt mailing list cvsnt@cvsnt.org http://www.cvsnt.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cvsnt Upgrade to CVS Suite for more features and

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
exactly the same things as always - I'm against any kind of crippling or time limiting in software where people may be relying on it continuing to work. They would just simply stick to older version until migrating to something else - as some will do now. I do not like noise in commit

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Luigi D. Sandon
commit. There are even multiple ways to disable that if you dig around the source a bit. Here's one (just run cvs - H commit) -m message Log message (the log message will include an advert). -M message Log message. But of course it won't work if you use a GUI on

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Howard Ha
Just wanted to add some feedback and maybe ask a few questions. Keep in mind I'm thinking from the perspective of a small team of 4-10 people working with perhaps 20-25 cvsnt repositories. I accidentally only sent this to Tony so I am sending to the list now, with some edits to portions that

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-10 Thread Arthur Barrett
Howard, Thanks for your detailed reply. I had pretty much already stated everything I was going to say - and I think addressed all the points you've raied - but since you went to some effort to write so much I think you deserve some further explanatory comment, though I've probably not had time

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Tony Hoyle
Clóvis Garcia Marcondes wrote: Hi, After installed the new 2.5.04 CVSNT Server (Free) the text below is been inserted into my commit messages: Committed on the Free edition of March Hare Software CVSNT Server. Upgrade to CVS Suite for more features and support:

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Tony Hoyle
Clóvis Garcia Marcondes wrote: Tony, I got your point but should be nice at least to advise when you change the way the product works. I just asked because I´m testing the new version together with the CVS Suite Trial exactly to see if it is interesting for me to buy the comercial

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Fabio D'Alfonso
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax: +39.06.874.599.581 From: Tony Hoyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:57 PM To: cvsnt@cvsnt.org Subject: Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages Clóvis Garcia Marcondes wrote: Hi, After

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Dries Feys
, Cordialement, Regards, DRIES FEYS ICT-DEPARTMENT Software quality Systems: Senior Software Engineer Fabio D'Alfonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/2008 15:47 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To cvsnt@cvsnt.org cc Subject Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Tony Hoyle
Fabio D'Alfonso wrote: Hi, I appreciate very much the effort you made to enhance cvs. This shareware like change in the policy to add messages in the software, will not get expected results, in my opinion. I unfortunately expect that this will reinforce migration to other tools like,

Re: [cvsnt] March-Hare message into my commit messages

2008-11-07 Thread Clóvis Garcia Marcondes
I noticed that this was not made by the Server but the client because I´ve tested over a CVSNT Server 2.5.03 and the same problems occurr. Is there a free client or I´ll have to keep the 2.5.03 client instead o 2.5.04? Clóvis Garcia Marcondes escreveu: Hi, After installed the new 2.5.04