CS: Pol-Kate Hoey

2000-08-18 Thread jonathan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I can't remember which votes she made but I remember a > speech she made criticising Straw that was quite amusing. > > Steve. Anyone who criticises Straw must be at least half decent. Perhaps she's not as bad as I thought. Jonathan Laws Cybershooters website: htt

CS: Pol-Kate Hoey

2000-08-18 Thread Longsiberia
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, Thank you for your support on Kate Hoey. Mr Laws Kate Hoey voted in our favour that is all you need to know. If you wish to make enemies of our friend then go ahead!. You are able to do your own research to find out how good a minister she is. You can find all t

CS: Pol-Should we vote for Chief Constables?

2000-08-18 Thread Edward
From: Edward Beck, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >However I draw the line at Crown Servants using their >position to express views on the Law, Policy and further, >making provocative statements to the effect that the general >population abuse their hard won freedom, cannot be >trusted, should be disarmed

CS: Misc-What's the best body armour?

2000-08-18 Thread Edward
From: Edward Beck, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >They support an important market for black ballistic >nylon, substandard unwearable body armour and ballistically >neutered ammo. As a result they have little to no money to >spend on good holsters and weapon retention training - >because it will never hap

CS: Pol-Australia Atty-General letter to dealers

2000-08-18 Thread SSAA
From: SSAA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ssaa.org.au/vanstonedealer.html ATTORNEY-GENERAL'S DEPARTMENT INFORMATION FOR FIREARMS' DEALERS Amendments to the Customs (Prohibited Imports) Regulations 1956 18 August 2000 Introduction The Government is concerned about the current level at which h

CS: Misc-police protection

2000-08-18 Thread John Daragon
From: "John Daragon", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Given that the occurrence of this type of event is sort of predictable, and that we've already had a case where a woman has been allowed to bleed to death because police officers had decided it was too dangerous for them to approach, isn't it time ARVs ca

CS: Misc-Less Than Lethal Force

2000-08-18 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hasn't someone done some work on a bean bag round for a baton gun? That would appear to offer possibilities even against armed criminals. Regards Jerry -- I think baton guns are a waste of time because they are single shot, or should I say "singl

CS: Misc-Poisoned Bullets

2000-08-18 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Otto Skorzany, the Head of the 'Special Forces' in Hitlers Germany, was accused of using such ammunition. However, it was found at the Nuremberg Trails that more often than not these rounds were issued by the Germans for suicide rather than assassin

CS: Pol-Olympic shooters lobby for easing of handgun ban

2000-08-18 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mick Gault took several medals last time (five Golds I think) - and they had to mention his achievement on Sports Personality of the Year! What better publicity for the sport. Personally having listened to Dr Mick North and John Hoare debate this

CS: Pol-Olympic shooters lobby for easing of handgun ban

2000-08-18 Thread Jeremy
From: Jeremy Peter Howells, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I would like to see British shooters win every shooting medal at the Games and then decry the ban in every interview. A few well placed demonstrations, placards and posters would also have some impact. Perhaps even on the shooting kit o

CS: Target-Ricochets

2000-08-18 Thread david
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Does greasing a target metal plate increase the angle > that a bullet can be fired from and still riccochet? > Say from 20 degrees to 40 degrees? > > If the objective is to increase the probability of riccochet then it > would depend on : The weight / volume of the me

CS: Legal-9mm hollowpoints

2000-08-18 Thread Hugh Bellars
From: "Hugh Bellars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that this is definitely in the urban myth category. Both the Geneva Convention and the Hague Accords apply only to international warfare between nations and 'domestic problems' were specifically exempted from both sets of documents. I believe t

CS: Legal-anonymity

2000-08-18 Thread Hugh Bellars
From: "Hugh Bellars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] IG, I have a lot of sympathy for many of the views expressed in your post, but this one line made me do a double-take. What 'grief' could possibly be caused by these legal section 1 items? The implication from your statement is that some people in the P

CS: Legal-Hague Convention

2000-08-18 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hague Convention. Laws of War : Declaration on the Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body; July 29, 1899 The Undersigned, Plenipotentiaries of the Powers represented at the International Peace Conference at The Hague, duly authorized to th

CS: Legal-S.54 etc.

2000-08-18 Thread Brian Toller
From: "Brian Toller", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Oh, and by the way, Dave, a little piece of education >for you. The revenue from all your beloved speed >cameras goes to the treasury. The Police don't >get any of it! Strange but true. Just on this one specific point. On Radio 4 this afternoon, a solic

CS: Legal-Bad Laws

2000-08-18 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the point about the bad laws on the books, there is no obligation for the police to enforce them in the same way that that the Nurenberg trials held. Police officers are not blindly obligated to uphold bad law. It's not that simple I realise, but it is also no

CS: Pol-Commonwealth Games

2000-08-18 Thread Ken
From: Ken Wyatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Firstly I do not think that the shooters should carry the can alone. NO range should be offered for what is an illegal sport. NO range personnel should offer their services. Shooting sports still legal should of course go ahead( they are still legal) I have

CS: Legal-anonymity / Perceptions

2000-08-18 Thread Gregg Mitchell
From: "Gregg Mitchell", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I.G., I read your comments with interest. Your argument re. parrallelling condemnation of Police & shooters is fallacious. Shooters are citizens. They pursue their interest for pleasure, without pecuniary advantage and without the attendant pressure

CS: Legal-Anonymity

2000-08-18 Thread Dave
From: Dave Reay, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Hello > >I imagine support for Dave's viewpoint is not soley >confined to CS, ask anybody who has reported a burglary, >stolen car, vandalism, etc. etc. >Favorite Topics I've just had my car broken into and 500 pounds sterling worth of tools stolen, the plods

CS: Legal-Anonymity

2000-08-18 Thread Jim FRANKLIN
From: "Jim FRANKLIN", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [.] At the same time we have the opportunity to demonstrate the expertise that exists in the civilian world. [.] OK, we are out of order taking a poke at our friendly neighbourhood bobby. However, if there is one thing that sticks in my craw, it

CS: Target-BP corrosiveness & Chemistry lesson

2000-08-18 Thread David
From: David Chappell - UK, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh dear, I was trying to avoid the anorak chemical stuff but it appears I can't so sorry: Chris Evans said: <> Yes Potassium Nitrate (KNO3 (all my trailing numbers are subscript :-))is an oxidiser - it is where we get our oxygen for the combustion

CS: Target-Black powder

2000-08-18 Thread Alexander Ellis
From: "Alexander Ellis", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does one have to be concerned about lead poisening when shooting black powder firearms. (Regulars will know why I ask) al -- I would think so, lead will still cause contamination from the cap. Steve. Cybershooters website: http://www.cybershooters

CS: Pol-police positions

2000-08-18 Thread niel fagan
From: "niel fagan", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Innocent", INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip > >If we can influence the copper on the ground, especially >the young ones, we will lay the foundations for the future >as these youngsters move up the ranks. Just as we all >believe in training the young

CS: Pol-Straw may permit pistol shooting at Manchester games

2000-08-18 Thread E.J. Totty
From: "E.J. Totty", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] What would be the basis for a civil case? The only one I can think of is that she may cause a bad effect on the revenue from ticket sales to the Games by spreading lies, but that would be a tough one to prove in court. Steve.

CS: Legal-anonymity

2000-08-18 Thread IG
From: "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED] However I draw the line at Crown Servants using their position to express views on the Law, Policy and further, making provocative statements to the effect that the general population abuse their hard won freedom, cannot be trusted, should be disarmed and controll

CS: Pol-The Dunblaners

2000-08-18 Thread Graham Gartshore
From: "Graham Gartshore", [EMAIL PROTECTED] You only have to mention a gun where I live and up pops a Dunblaner. This was in todays Scottish Daily Mail. "POLICE WILL BE FORCED TO CARRY GUNS" A SENIOR police officer issued the stark warning yesterday that all officers in Scotland would soon be

CS: Legal-It serves you right judge tells burglar

2000-08-18 Thread Graham Gartshore
From: "Graham Gartshore", [EMAIL PROTECTED] It serves you right judge tells burglar stabbed by victim A JUDGE yesterday backed a I householder who nearly killed an armed robber during a violent raid on his home. Career criminal Victor Hanchard, 40, was critically injured after terrified Andrew

CS: Misc-Allliant Technologies press releases

2000-08-18 Thread Steven Kendrick
ATK Produces One Hundred Millionth Round of Small Caliber Ammunition at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant Minneapolis, Aug. 15, 2000 รป ATK (Alliant Techsystems, NYSE: ATK) said it has produced the one hundred millionth round of small caliber ammunition at the Lake City Army Ammunition Plant in Inde