Hi all,
I think I have found a bug with the Cygwin/X server when run with the
"-rootless" flag. It seems that children of the root window which use
InputOnly as their class and CopyFromParent as their visual type
display part of the (normally unshown) root window (with stippled
black and white pat
Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
> > -internalwm is actually -multiwindow?
>
> No. -multiwindow use hw/xwin/winmultiwindow*.c to handle widow, but
> -internalwm use miext/rootless/. And -internalwm uses built-in wm in
> winmultiwindowwm.c too if another window manager is running.
oh. This makes it clear.
> -internalwm is actually -multiwindow?
No. -multiwindow use hw/xwin/winmultiwindow*.c to handle widow, but
-internalwm use miext/rootless/. And -internalwm uses built-in wm in
winmultiwindowwm.c too if another window manager is running.
> I'd keep the options (at least their names) for backward
Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
> Hi, guys.
>
> I'm writing code related mwextwm. Temporally I added -internalwm
> option. It detects another window manager, and automatically it
> switches on/off built-in window manager. There are duplicated code for
> -rootless and -multiwindow and -mwextwm. This will
Hi, guys.
I'm writing code related mwextwm. Temporally I added -internalwm
option. It detects another window manager, and automatically it
switches on/off built-in window manager. There are duplicated code for
-rootless and -multiwindow and -mwextwm. This will merge those three
mode.
I have to c
[snip]
Of course "unfortunately" the window-maker port is currently "broken" so
it is hard
To do further "experiments"
Don't know about test builds, but with the latest build WindowMaker
works correctly: I use it every day in rootless mode for my job with
s with the intention that others would take them
> > over, but no one has. So, if Window Maker is broke, then I will have to
> > pull the package from distribution.
> >
> > Any takers?
> >
> > Harold
> >
> > Bovy, Stephen wrote:
> >
> > >I h
package from distribution.
>
> Any takers?
>
> Harold
>
> Bovy, Stephen wrote:
>
> >I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode.
> >
> >I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion.
> >
> >We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin
Now if this capability could be further refined to work with "cygwin" in
rootless mode,
In a manner that is complimentry/compatible/integrated and
non-disruptive with the
Normal windows desktop and/or other windows, and maybee even try to
integrate it
With the "task/bar&qu
clip , the dock
, ect all
Pop-up as "icons" on my windows desktop.
Now if this capability could be further refined to work with "cygwin" in
rootless mode,
In a manner that is complimentry/compatible/integrated and
non-disruptive with the
Normal windows desktop and/or other windows
pull the package from distribution.
Any takers?
Harold
Bovy, Stephen wrote:
I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode.
I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion.
We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in
"rootless mode&
I have tried the server test series with "rootless" mode.
I find it very usefull. Here is my dumb opinion.
We need a Native Microsft-Cygwin "Window Manager" designed to work in
"rootless mode".
Also FYI. The "Window Maker" "port" isnt w
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Harold L Hunt II
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Rootless mode
Looking at Kensuke's code, he uses an internal queue to store messages that
need to be processed by child windows. For some reason this queue is not
sages, causing
Windows to send them again.
Harold
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jean-Claude Gervais
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Rootless mode
This may be obvious, but the difference between th
I was able to reproduce the -multiwindow moving bug on two Win2k
machines, and "Show window contents while dragging"
does not seem to have any effect on those machines.
(I already had it switched off)
Neither does disabling ActiveDesktop help.
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
David,
I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke
sent me didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a
window if you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he
never responded. I didn't want to bug him about it for aw
er 12, 2002 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rootless mode
Kensuke,
Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that
option
on by default, I believe.
Are you going to try to debug this?
Harold
Matsuzaki Kensuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Harold,
&
Kensuke,
Hmm... that sounds about right. Windows 2000 and Windows XP have that option
on by default, I believe.
Are you going to try to debug this?
Harold
Matsuzaki Kensuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Harold,
>
> I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when
> "Sh
Harold,
I could not reproduce that bug, but now I found that this bug occur when
"Show window contents while dragging" enabled.
Maximizing a window never stop too.
Matsuzaki Kensuke
* Harold L Hunt II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-12 11:24:25 -0500]:
> Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting
> for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed.
> I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious
> bug.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:22:45 -0500, Harold L Hunt II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David,
I have not released a test version because the version that Kensuke sent me
didn't work at all. It just kept repeating the dragging of a window if
you ever moved one. I sent a report to the list but he nev
Please do not release your own test version. As I said, I am waiting
for the repeating window movement to be looked into and possibly fixed.
I do not wish to get lots of duplicate bug reports for such an obvious
bug. If Kensuke says it doesn't happen with his version, then I will
rebuild min
s is
something lots of people have wanted for a long time,
congratulations for getting it going!
David
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
JS,
Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really
have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode
is to c
Kensuke,
Did you ever look into the bug I reported where a dragged window just
keeps on repeating the dragging and never stops moving? Seems to be a
problem with the message queue not being cleared properly.
My email is in the list archives if you missed it.
Harold
Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
-multiwindow is not stable, so I thought binary is not needed.
XWin.exe is here.
http://peppermint.jp/products/asis/XWin.2002_12_09.exe.bz2
And libfreetype 2.1.1 is here.
http://peppermint.jp/temp/libfreetype.tar.bz2
Kensuke Matsuzaki
* Kensuke Matsuzaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-12 21:10:54 +0900]:
> To build XWin.exe, please read
>http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html
I should have figured that out without being told, sorry. I'm now
getting the source via CVS. There sure is a lot of it; I hope x86 is
> I wholeheartedly second that; either a test build, or perhaps some
> instructions on how to take the patch(es) you supplied and build a
> modified version using the existing Cygwin tools.
To build XWin.exe, please read http://xfree86.cygwin.com/docs/cg/cygwin-xfree-cg.html
The patch can be
* David Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-12 10:03:53 +0200]:
> Kensuke, Harold,
> I was just wondering whether it would be possible to create a test build
> of the X server with this multi-window
> mode. Obviously there are issues with it but I presume they only come up
> in multi-window mode?
something lots of people have wanted for a long time,
congratulations for getting it going!
David
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
JS,
Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really
have been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode
is to create
JS,
Kensuke titled his message ``rootless mode'' when it should really have
been titled ``multi-window mode''. The goal of multi-window mode is to
create a Windows-window for each top-level X Window, rather than
creating one huge window for your entire X desktop
window manager.
Kensuke Matsuzaki
How does this patch change what Rootless mode already does? I thought that
rootless mode already integrated the window manager? I have windowmaker
running, and when I'm in rootless mode the xterms come up with windowmaker
frames. Can you integrate wit
Kensuke,
The new patch is an architectual improvement.
However, when I run it, if I move a window it gets moved, then it jumps
back to its original position and retraces the move path that I took it
on, over and over again until I feel like I will throw up. :)
I am not sure what is causing th
Kensuke,
Excellent. I will try to take a look at this patch tonight. I was hoping that
the window manager would eventually be integrated into XWin.exe and I am
interested in seeing how you did this.
Thanks for your great patches.
By the way, was your new patch a diff against the original CVS t
Harold,
It remains only for debugging.
> Am I correct that the root window is still being drawn, even thought it is
> not really usable? Is that something that remains to be fixed, or did I
> have something go wrong with my patching?
By the way, this is new patch that integrates XWin and the wi
patching?
Harold
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kensuke Matsuzaki
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Rootless mode
Hello,
I am writing code for rootless mode. It creates Windows window for each
X Window. I
Harold,
Sorry, I forgot to think about end-of-line character.
> Just a quick question: does the window manager have to be started
> seperately from XWin.exe, or does XWin.exe take care of launching the
> nwindow manager when you specify -multiwindow ?
It need to be started separately. So
$XWin
s XWin.exe take care of launching the
window manager when you specify -multiwindow ?
Thanks for your hard work,
Harold
Kensuke Matsuzaki wrote:
Hello,
I am writing code for rootless mode. It creates Windows window for each
X Window. I add "-multiwindow" option. With this I can use
Hello,
I am writing code for rootless mode. It creates Windows window for each
X Window. I add "-multiwindow" option. With this I can use taskbar, move
and resize window.
But this sometimes does strange behaivor, and code is not clean.
It seems to be difficult for me to write complet
Greetings, I had a question about rootless mode (excellent work, BTW).
I'm logged into a Solaris 2.6 XDMCP server and using CDE, and if I go to
move a window, the window will move correctly, and I get the little square
in the middle of the screen showing the coordinate position, but I don&
So how was it that you start rootless mode again?
Just kidding.
I guess I should have mentioned that I was about to go on
vacation for over a week after I sent my last message.
My impression of XOpenWin was that it was going to replace
the low-level graphic calls from Windows with calls to X
Stephen,
Use the ``-rootless'' command line parameter for XWin.exe.
Harold
Bovy, Stephen wrote:
I would like to try the new rootless mode, but I cant find any
Info on how to use it ...
Any suggestions ???
OK. Whose turn is it to chastise this?
RTFMLA!
At 12:56 2002-11-11, Bovy, Stephen wrote:
I would like to try the new rootless mode, but I cant find any
Info on how to use it ...
Any suggestions ???
I would like to try the new rootless mode, but I cant find any
Info on how to use it ...
Any suggestions ???
Excellent. I have put this in my queue.
Harold
Matsuzaki Kensuke wrote:
Hello,
Here is a patch which make it sure that rootless mode delete region.
And I cleaned up the code for handling region.
I tested it, and "DeleteObject or SetWindowRgn" are surely called for every
"C
Hello,
Here is a patch which make it sure that rootless mode delete region.
And I cleaned up the code for handling region.
I tested it, and "DeleteObject or SetWindowRgn" are surely called for every
"CreateRectRegion".
But still the memory size increased.
Please help
dnesday, November 06, 2002 10:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rootless mode with Query mode
Jean-Claude Gervais wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If I start XWin with the following parameters, :0 -rootless -query
hostname
>
> I get the Redhat login dialog
Jean-Claude Gervais wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If I start XWin with the following parameters, :0 -rootless -query hostname
>
> I get the Redhat login dialog box, which appears with NO background.
>
> This is good.
>
> Then when I log in, whether I select GNOME or KDE, t
Hi,
If I start XWin with the following parameters, :0 -rootless -query hostname
I get the Redhat login dialog box, which appears with NO background.
This is good.
Then when I log in, whether I select GNOME or KDE, the KDE/GNOME desktop
background always appears.
At 13:56 2002-11-05, you wrote:
Randall,
Be nice.
Yes, sir.
Randall,
Be nice.
I posted an announcement for XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-15, but I did not
mention that you should use the ``-rootless'' parameter for the rootless
mode. Rootless mode is in the stable release, but it is still
considered experimental because it may leak memory and i
tion acceptable, then you know what to do. Hint: Put up or
shut up.
Kdt
Randall R Schulz was recently quoted as saying...
> Gr...
> At 13:24 2002-11-05, you wrote:
> >I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even
what it is)?
Is it worth asking if the option has been added to the XWin.1 manpage?
(If it isn't, then... er...)
Kdt
Randall R Schulz was recently quoted as saying...
> Gr...
> At 13:24 2002-11-05, you wrote:
> >I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even what
> >it is)?
Gr...
At 13:24 2002-11-05, you wrote:
I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even what
it is)?
If you don't know what it is, how do you know _of_ if? Wherever you heard
about it (could it be this list?), that's where you'll find other ans
I can't find any documentation on how to use rootless mode (or even what
it is)?
How so I start rootless mode?
Can anyone point me to some sourses of help?
Is it available with the latest (stable) distribution of cygwin/xfree?
Thanks,
Lars.
--
Lars Jensen, TMCC/Vista B200, 7000 Da
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To: "Thomas Chadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Harold L Hunt II"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: rootless mode and mousing to other windows
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:51:54 -0500
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ions, even stuff like IE or WinAMP, are managed through
the X window manager.
As I understand it the current efforts with a rootless mode are going in
the other direction, where X apps are managed by Explorer.
/W
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Wilhelm,
Wilhelm Person wrote:
rootless mode are going in
the other direction, where X apps are managed by Explorer.
/W
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Wilhelm,
>
> Wilhelm Person wrote:
>
> >Guess I'm in the 1% then, I prefer fvwm to any other window manager I have
> >seen yet. It would be
Wilhelm,
Wilhelm Person wrote:
Guess I'm in the 1% then, I prefer fvwm to any other window manager I have
seen yet. It would be very, very cool to have fvwm on Windows.
/W
Are you referring to just having fvwm available for Cygwin/XFree86 or
are you referring to having the additional featu
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Well, that is not an opinion that I have ever seen expressed here to
date and I have not seen any developer announce that they are aiming to
provide such functionality. It has always been my understanding that
99% of people are interested in having MS Windows manage the
Guess I'm in the 1% then, I prefer fvwm to any other window manager I have
seen yet. It would be very, very cool to have fvwm on Windows.
/W
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
> Gerald S. Williams wrote:
>
> >Ultimately, what you really want is the ability to go both
> >ways--let X ap
Gerald S. Williams wrote:
Ultimately, what you really want is the ability to go both
ways--let X applications be managed by Windows and let
Windows applications be managed by X window managers (like
LiteStep only allowing X calls all the way down--I think
LiteStep uses GTK or something). Of cours
g about hooking into the focus events. This
would be a useful addition even without rootless mode or
true Windows integration. And it looks like those events
are already hooked in order to deal with keyboard modes.
Which needs some debugging anyway, since X sometimes gets
confused about caps lock (gran
Hi,
From: "Gerald S. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 13:28:04 -0500
::I agree -rootless rocks. And a -systray option would be great.
It's rocking realy cool! :-)
::But one thing that I'd really like to be able to do now that
::-rootless is around is be able to have all X win
I don't think that such interaction between the X Windows window manager
and, essentially, the Windows window manager is going to be useful in
the end, and it would be overly complicated to implement such an interim
solution.
Remember that the ultimate solution is to write calls that make Windo
be able to
``click-through'' to put the focus on Windows applications, but at least
you would be able to see those other apps in the background.
Harold
Thomas Chadwick wrote:
I'm hoping some folks on the ML might help me brainstorm a solution to
fixing x2x in rootless mode...
For those
Is it as simple as patching XWin to call XSetInputFocus() with a focus
argument of "None" when MS Windows informs it that it has lost focus?
From: "Gerald S. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rootless mode a
I agree -rootless rocks. And a -systray option would be great.
But one thing that I'd really like to be able to do now that
-rootless is around is be able to have all X windows become
inactive when a Windows window is selected. When I switch to
X-Windows, all of the Windows-style windows become in
I'm hoping some folks on the ML might help me brainstorm a solution to
fixing x2x in rootless mode...
For those of you not familiar with x2x, it's a handy utility that gives you
a dual-headed X display if you have side-by-side workstations both running X
(one is designated the &quo
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Yes, we should look into doing something that would allow rootless-mode
windows to be placed anywhere on the virtual display area. I think that
may only require setting the size of the fake Windows-window to the size
of the virtual display region. Should be easy, right
parameter and report your results.
>
> Harold
>
> Marcus Lindblom wrote:
>
> >Hi!
> >
> >Am running Cygwin and Test67 of XWin.exe, a GF4 Ti4200 and a
> >nView-enhanced desktop (which windows sees as one monitor at
> 2560x1024,
> >not as two 1280x1
--Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:cygwin-xfree-owner@;cygwin.com] On Behalf Of
> Jean-Claude Gervais
> Sent: den 20 oktober 2002 21:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Rootless mode only works on one monitor
>
>
> Marcus,
>
>
Yes, we should look into doing something that would allow rootless-mode
windows to be placed anywhere on the virtual display area. I think that
may only require setting the size of the fake Windows-window to the size
of the virtual display region. Should be easy, right? ;)
Harold
Jehan
Marcus,
Try it with the ``-engine 1'' parameter and report your results.
Harold
Marcus Lindblom wrote:
Hi!
Am running Cygwin and Test67 of XWin.exe, a GF4 Ti4200 and a
nView-enhanced desktop (which windows sees as one monitor at 2560x1024,
not as two 1280x1024).
Rootless mode is r
4:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Rootless mode only works on one monitor
I sort of did that, didn't I? ;)
Note that I am running both monitors from the same graphics adapter, and
use driver software to link them together as one big screen. I haven't
tested using the WinXP-multim
it with the ``-engine 1'' parameter and report your results.
>
> Harold
>
> Marcus Lindblom wrote:
>
> >Hi!
> >
> >Am running Cygwin and Test67 of XWin.exe, a GF4 Ti4200 and a
> >nView-enhanced desktop (which windows sees as one monitor at
> 2560x1024,
&g
Marcus Lindblom wrote:
Problems solved!
The first was my bad (told nView not to let apps span two screens when
maximizing, do'h!).
By default, XWin open a window as big as the primary desktop. Setting
nView to use both monitors as one big desktop is one solution.
But you can also have two des
Hi!
Am running Cygwin and Test67 of XWin.exe, a GF4 Ti4200 and a
nView-enhanced desktop (which windows sees as one monitor at 2560x1024,
not as two 1280x1024).
Rootless mode is really cool, but the windows only shows on one of the
screens (the primary).
Also, when running with a root window, I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> It was posted on the 15th of this month in this thread.
And I received it. Must have been blind that day.
bye
ago
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Don't worry, the patch came through correctly. The problem was that the
email did not clearly state that a rootless mode had been implemented,
so both Alexander and I didn't pay any attention to it. I didn't even
notice that it had a patch attached.
The message is in the
Holger,
You will probably want to grab that Test 67 preliminary release that I
just posted... it has much better performance due to reduced logging.
Take a look at your /tmp/XWin.log file, it is probably over 50 MB.
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test67.exe.bz2
Harold
Holger Vo
Uwe,
There is a preliminary Server Test Series - Test 67 release up at:
http://www.msu.edu/~huntharo/xwin/shadow/XWin-Test67.exe.bz2 (~1,225 KB)
I say that this is preliminary because I built it from the HEAD branch,
rather than from the 4.2.0 branch. Thus, if you run xdpyinfo it will
report
Hi all,
I have just installed XWin-Test66.exe over a very old Cygwin
installation (May 01, X-dlls March 01) on a Windows NT4 notebook. After
starting and a short DOS box pop up ... nothing happened.
But then there it was: a small green rectangle among all my Windows
icons stating "sh".
Now my sc
Keith D. Tyler wrote:
At the expense of sounding like a picky naysayer, XMouse never worked
consistently similar to any other X wm's focus-follows-mouse behaviour
that I ever used. And it will never work like Fvwm2 SloppyFocus, which
I've become addicted to. :)
Maybe I was not clear enough with
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002, Keith D. Tyler wrote:
> * I recommend running this mode with the X server set to run
> always-on-top.
Why?
You will never get the w32 windows in front of any x11 window.
> Right now I'm using a tool called Make Always On Top to
> make XWin.exe this way, perhaps I could su
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
So, rootless mode makes Cygwin/XFree86 actually useful for the primary
maintainer to get some work done! This is astonishing! :)
So hopefully that will give you some incentive to finish the rootless
mode sooner then... Ouch, no, no beating, I was just kidding
Some of you have noticed that a message is being added to /tmp/XWin.log
every time that winAddRgn (or something close to that) is called.
Other of you have also noticed that certain window operations and other
random operations are slower than expected in Cygwin/XFree86 with
rootless mode
Hallo Sam.
Sam Edge wrote:
At the expense of being somewhat off topic and sounding like a
and so on - at least avoid full qoute...
Guess I needed that - I had TweakUI already installed for some other
reason but never checked the mouse options... sh...
By the way: This works absolutely posit
ote:
> -rootless
> EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in pseudo-rootless mode.
>
> This is really cool--many thanks to Matsuzaki, Thomas, and Harold! ...
--
Rick Umali[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.rickumali.com
y naysayer, XMouse never worked
consistently similar to any other X wm's focus-follows-mouse behaviour
that I ever used. And it will never work like Fvwm2 SloppyFocus, which
I've become addicted to. :)
As for rootless mode, I'd throw out some other caveats and
recommendations:
*
Yikes!!! I just noticed that my XWin.log is 52 MB for my one hour
session in Cygwin/XFree86. I will have to roll a new release tonight
that turns off the logging of the winAddRgn messages. Sorry about that.
Harold
root wrote:
Works fine..no rubber bands.. none of my previous
problems (my er
Uwe Schmidtmann was recently quoted as saying...
> Guess I needed that - I had TweakUI already installed for some other
> reason but never checked the mouse options... sh...
>
> By the way: This works absolutely positiv with the "-rootless" option of
> the new xwin binary. All looks like being i
Works fine..no rubber bands.. none of my previous
problems (my error!).
Only quirk I can see is loads of 'winAddRgn()' message lines at the end of
my XWin.log.
Thanks a million..I owe someone a beer for this!!
Colin
FYI - I've taken down the binary I posted to avoid any confusion with
Harold's test release of XWin -rootless.
>From: "Thomas Chadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>Da
Bradey,
Thanks for pointing that out. I added the -rootless command-line arg to
the patch that Matsuzaki sent in, so Test66 and XFree86-xserv-4.2.0-13
are different than the release that Thomas Chadwick made.
This version of a rootless mode is precisely what I was aiming for:
something
You wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in gmane.os.cygwin.xfree on Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:13:10 +0200:
> oh how I miss the "focus
> follows mouse" function within windows, just to mention one
At the expense of being somewhat off topic and sounding like a
Microsoft UI aficionado you can get this behaviou
Hi!
The "rootless" mode is much more interesting than the "real" one from
other products (at least for me). One of the reasons for this is cygwins
capability of still being able to use an X11 window manager (e.g. icewm)
instead of the dump windows user interface (oh h
I didn't see a mention of the argument to invoke the new rootless mode
anywhere in this thread--no doubt it's in the updated man pages, but I just
grabbed the Test66 binary. Logically enough, it's '-rootless':
-rootless
EXPERIMENTAL: Run the server in ps
What is that?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Keith D. Tyler
This could be a nifty option while I hold my breath for win32-x11. :)
> However, I noticed a few strange artifacts of this approach to rootless
> mode...
>
> 2) Now that there is no root window, you can't use the XWindows window
> manager's root-window menus.
Unless you turn off -nodecoration, then the root window is available as an
ugl
>From: MATSUZAKI Kensuke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Thomas Chadwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Rootless mode revisited...
>Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 02:08:41 +0900
[snip]
> > 3) A favorite tool of mine, x2x, is broken, whic
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