Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-27 Thread Kevin Elliott
At 21:56 -0700 10/25/00, Nathan Saper wrote: >I don't think your Hitler example applies, because he could not prove >that the Jews were causing pain. In any case, my formulation of act >utilitarianism seems to suffer from those sorts of attacks less than >the normal formulation, and I have yet to

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-26 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 05:15:06PM -0700, Nathan Saper wrote, quoting me: > > For instance, what are the economic effects? > > Again, it depends on the economic framework under which we are operating. Nope. You don't get it. Economics is in part hte study of people acting in their own rational

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Tim May
At 5:02 PM -0700 10/25/00, Nathan Saper wrote: >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 12:41:49AM -0700, Rev. Parker Bright wrote: >> If you truly believe this why not take a hint from Camus and kill yourself. >> You could one, lose nothing due to inherent lack

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:09:53AM -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: > It's a not entirely uninteresting approach, but one doesn't have > to resort to libertarian rights-theory to refute it (not that > arguing about rights is going to resolve anything a

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 03:24:35PM -0500, Kevin Elliott V wrote: > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Here is my last post in this thread, because I feel that it is going > > nowhere: > > > > My views are irreconcilable with those of the libertarians on this

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Nathan Saper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 12:41:49AM -0700, Rev. Parker Bright wrote: > If you truly believe this why not take a hint from Camus and kill yourself. > You could one, lose nothing due to inherent lack of value, two, exercise > the one undeniable right, t

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread jim bell
- Original Message - From: Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:35:53AM -0700, Tim May wrote: > > It's not so much that he's "wrong" as that he's "naive." He arrives > > on the CP list and begins regurgitating socialist blath

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Tim May
At 10:09 AM -0400 10/25/00, Declan McCullagh wrote: >It's a not entirely uninteresting approach, but one doesn't have >to resort to libertarian rights-theory to refute it (not that >arguing about rights is going to resolve anything anyway). > >Simple pragmatism can do the same. I mean, Nathan, hav

Re: Insurance: My Last Post

2000-10-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
It's a not entirely uninteresting approach, but one doesn't have to resort to libertarian rights-theory to refute it (not that arguing about rights is going to resolve anything anyway). Simple pragmatism can do the same. I mean, Nathan, have you ever considered what happens when taxes are raised