They couldn't have done better promoting internet bearer transactions if
they asked us, I think...
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
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> => Somalis thrive withou
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Sir Robert Hettinga wrote:
> > With supporting e-gold as a currency, or paypal or some other
> > similar, it is so obviously a good idea that if they don't do it
> > immediately, then they have their reasons to avoid these things.
> > Wanting to do money
Sorry for the misattribution...should have been "Ian Grigg wrote:"
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Sir Robert Hettinga wrote:
> With supporting e-gold as a currency, or paypal or some other similar,
> it is so obviously a good idea that if they don't do it immediately,
> then they have their reasons to avoid these things. Wanting to do
> money issuance RSN could be one of th
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At 11:43 AM -0800 on 3/1/00, Tim May wrote:
> I thought you (R.A. Hettinga) agreed not to forward my articles to your
> stable of lists?
Actually, I may be wrong, but I'm not sure I agreed to that at all. What
I *did* agree to do, something I'm sure you remem
At 5:00 PM -0800 on 3/1/00, Tim May wrote:
> Perhaps you are right. I am asking you, then, to not do it. Not because I
> "own" my words here, but because readers on other lists lack context. (Few
> of our articles are self-contained articles in the way magazine articles
> are meant to be.)
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At 09:27 AM 2/29/00 -0800, Tim May wrote:
>A bank which freezes on suspicion and then "dares" the account holder to
>sue in U.S. courts is headed for oblivion.
>
>Given that gold is fungible anyway, just what the hell is the supposed
>advantage of "grams of gold," except to gold worshipper
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>> I thought you (R.A. Hettinga) agreed not to forward my articles to your
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>
>Actually, I may be wrong, but I'm not sure I agreed to that at all.
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Tim May wrote:
> Perhaps you are right. I am asking you, then, to not do it. Not because I
> "own" my words here, but because readers on other lists lack context. (Few
> of our articles are self-contained articles in the way magazine articles
> are meant to be.)
Whine, whin
At 11:05 AM -0800 3/1/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
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>Subject: Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!
>From: Somebody
>To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>R. A. Hettin
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Subject: Re: Anonymous e-cash server built on e-gold -- NOT!
From: Somebody
To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
R. A. Hettinga e-said that Tim May e-said:
> For example, online services like AOL main
t; the global computer network (Internet) and/or private communication
> BTW, hope the e-gold guys are aware of US5671364, by the same guy:
Chances are this is the same James Turk who publishes the Freemarket
Gold and Money Report, available at www.fgmr.com. He's an international
expert on gold an
Right. I don't mean to be unduly critical of e-gold -- they may be better
than "normal banks," although that may be faint praise. It would be useful
if they would publicly clarify exactly what constitutes suspicious activity
and under what circumstances they will freeze acc
Declan McCullagh wrote:
> The e-gold execs told me on multiple occasions at FC they will freeze
> accounts if they think the activity is "suspicious," and dare the account
> holders to sue them in US courts to unfreeze it. They cited Ponzi schemes
> as one use they fo
is in some cases.)
The centralization of online banks will make such warrantless searches even
more of a tool than today. That E-Gold has even said they'll freeze an
account based on _suspicion_ is unsurprising.
Imagine a local bank, the First Bank of Bumfuck, Murdoch County, Georgia,
freezing
of saying what I've said at length over
several lists of late. I believe I started with the observation that
freezing accounts is something we expect of third world dictators. I
remember, but cannot prove, that e-gold used to advertise a hands-off
policy. If they do not go back to that, or so
Tim May writes:
> Frankly, thiis "be nice to them" line of reasoning is being offered more
> and more often lately.
Hear hear.
> "Don't do anything weird or unsavory with Freedom, else governments will
> step in and shut them down."
> "Don
e. Then we'll
really be able to do it right.
BTW, hope the e-gold guys are aware of US5671364, by the same guy:
> A system and method for permitting gold or other commodities to circulate
> as currency requires a network of system users that participate in
> financial transactions wher
to."
I call them as I see them. Some of the products appearing lately have
fundamental flaws which limit their applicability for interesting uses. At
best, they are conveniences for low security uses. At worst, they are wrong
directions.
I have no interest in seeing E-Gold either uses, regulated, or i
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At 9:27 AM -0800 2/29/00, Tim May wrote:
>Once enough accounts have been frozen, with the account holders "dared" to
>sue in U.S. courts, all confidence in E-Gold will evaporate.
>
>Sounds like an excellent way to nuke these guys.
>
>A bank which freezes on suspicion
At 4:52 AM -0800 2/29/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
>The e-gold execs told me on multiple occasions at FC they will freeze
>accounts if they think the activity is "suspicious," and dare the account
>holders to sue them in US courts to unfreeze it. They cited Ponzi schemes
>
The e-gold execs told me on multiple occasions at FC they will freeze
accounts if they think the activity is "suspicious," and dare the account
holders to sue them in US courts to unfreeze it. They cited Ponzi schemes
as one use they found unacceptable. They assured me FWIW that
I wrote:
> > Given the possible uses for anonymous e-cash, the risk that e-gold would
do
> > something unpleasant to the anonymous mint account seems unreasonably
> > large, at least until e-gold formalizes its policies in this regard
and Anonymous responded:
> The anony
> > One idea is to use IRC. The ecash server connects to an IRC server via
> > Freedom, and runs as a bot. Client software would then also use IRC
> > to extract and deposit coins.
> > You'd probably need to customize the IRC client in order to know how to
> > do the blinding and such.
>
> Don'
Daniel Boone writes:
> This would currently be a bad idea. E-Gold apparently has an
> ill-articulated policy of "freezing" accounts containing "funds that appear
> to be tainted by crime." They have so far refused to say what they do with
> the gold in froz
On 28 Feb 2000, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
> Run an anonymous ecash server which does withdrawals and deposits into
> the mint account, from behind Freedom.net.
>
> The only problem is that Freedom does not yet support anonymous servers.
> What we need is a way of supporting this.
>
Tell
Anonymous wrote:
> So maybe the thing to do is the following:
>
> Open an e-gold account, anonymously (or under a fake name, they sort of
> allow this). This will be the mint account.
>
> Let people put funds into the system by getting them into e-gold then
> trans
Sounds as if e-gold got hit by a n undercoverbanking op aping
a Diallo.
Has there been an ID of the fake 13-year-old that baby-dolled
the meet-me-at-Dariy Queen?
Why has NSA been breaking into banks and governments?
As Madsen claims. Or is it Shimomura aping a rogue state?
...From the "non-repudiation is a bitch" department, wherein E-Gold, and
their customers, discover the joys of book-entry transaction underwriting...
When you need to know your customers -- which you *must* do with book-entry
settlement or you're out of business -- you need
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