Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/14/2017 08:07 PM, juan wrote: > > > > this is a really nice touch to the American Picture > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion Damn, dude. You kinda sorta read my mind from time to time. :o) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-14 Thread juan
oh, I forgot, another nice touch is the fact that the americunt 'revolution' was bankrolled by the french monarchy. Ah, what a touching sight, all those 'democrats' fighting agaist 'tyranny' with the money the french monarchy extorted from peasants.

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-14 Thread juan
this is a really nice touch to the American Picture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiskey_Rebellion

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/13/2017 12:11 PM, \0xDynamite wrote: > Careful. Who funds the operations of corporations? The fact is that > the American people are a bunch of freetards who have never taken > control of thier own government beyond checking a box ONCE every FOUR > YEARS. Beg to disagree: As an

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-14 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/13/2017 11:35 AM, \0xDynamite wrote: > > Well yeah... "Liberty" meant rich people thumbing their noses at the >> Crown that made them rich by setting them up in business with land >> grants, slaves, legal institutions and some amount of military protection. >> >> For the peasant class,

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-14 Thread juan
On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:34:14 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > I agree with all of that.  This amounts to a vague mish-mash of > meanings, where the meanings themselves can be gravely in error. >  Yes, some people refer to the American system as "free market", > which I think is

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-14 Thread John Newman
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 12:36 AM, Rachael wrote: > > All this talk of Riseup being anti-capitalist and people being selective > about their invites is rather amusing. > > Maybe people on this listserve are not aware that Riseup.net (along with > LEAP) are listed as receiving

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-14 Thread James
Rachael: > All this talk of Riseup being anti-capitalist and people being selective > about their invites is rather amusing. > > Maybe people on this listserve are not aware that Riseup.net (along with > LEAP) are listed as receiving over $250,000 USD from government funding. > And that was only

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-13 Thread jim bell
From: Jason McVetta On Jul 14, 2017 11:53, "jim bell" wrote: I've long believed that people should stop using the term "capitalism" when they probably mean, "free market".  "capitalism" might be the 1800 equivalent of "crowdfunding".  >I

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-13 Thread Jason McVetta
On Jul 14, 2017 11:53, "jim bell" wrote: I've long believed that people should stop using the term "capitalism" when they probably mean, "free market". "capitalism" might be the 1800 equivalent of "crowdfunding". I agree people should use the word "capitalism" more

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-13 Thread jim bell
From: Rachael >All this talk of Riseup being anti-capitalist and people being selective >about their invites is rather amusing. I've long believed that people should stop using the term "capitalism" when they probably mean, "free market".  "capitalism" might be the

Re: Welcome to Anarchast

2017-07-13 Thread Rachael
All this talk of Riseup being anti-capitalist and people being selective about their invites is rather amusing. Maybe people on this listserve are not aware that Riseup.net (along with LEAP) are listed as receiving over $250,000 USD from government funding. And that was only the funding which

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-13 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 08:40:01AM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:31 AM, \0xDynamite > wrote: > > On 7/11/17, Steve Kinney wrote: > >> "Capitalism can not exist without armed State authorities to define and > >> enforce the

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-13 Thread \0xDynamite
>> No, that is not true. Capitalism, as an economic method, is devoid of >> power absent that given strictly by "law of supply and demand". The >> current capitalism you see today is a result of conquest and >> usurptation of massive amounts of unearned labor in the form of fossil >> fuel and

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:31 AM, \0xDynamite wrote: > On 7/11/17, Steve Kinney wrote: >> "Capitalism can not exist without armed State authorities to define and >> enforce the so-called rights of absentee landlords. Anarcho-capitalism >> is a

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-13 Thread \0xDynamite
> Well yeah... "Liberty" meant rich people thumbing their noses at the > Crown that made them rich by setting them up in business with land > grants, slaves, legal institutions and some amount of military protection. > > For the peasant class, "Liberty" was a false promise of equal rights >

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-13 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/12/2017 09:27 PM, juan wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:21:33 -0700 > Razer wrote: > >> >> >> On 07/12/2017 03:18 PM, juan wrote: >> >>> That may be one of the meanings, but it seems kinda obvious >>> that overall, 'liberal' comes from 'liberty'. >> >> >> Liberty, as

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jul 12, 2017 9:28 PM, "Razer" wrote: On 07/12/2017 03:44 PM, Cecilia Tanaka describes Unicorn poots as: > colorful like rainbows and full of shining glitter. Hemorrhoids. That's where the glitter comes from. Unicorn Hemorrhoids. Citation:

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:21:33 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 07/12/2017 03:18 PM, juan wrote: > > > That may be one of the meanings, but it seems kinda obvious > > that overall, 'liberal' comes from 'liberty'. > > > Liberty, as the US "Founders" understood it, meant the

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 00:19:21 + (UTC) jim bell wrote: > From: John Newman > > > >"Anarcho-capitalism" has more in common with fascism and > >post-industrial feudalism than any real ideal of freedom and life > >without coercion. For a fair idea of how it

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread John Newman
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 8:19 PM, jim bell wrote: > > From: John Newman > > > > >"Anarcho-capitalism" has more in common with fascism and post-industrial > >feudalism than any real ideal of freedom and life without coercion. > >For a fair idea of how it

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Razer
On 07/12/2017 03:44 PM, Cecilia Tanaka describes Unicorn poots as: > colorful like rainbows and full of shining glitter. Hemorrhoids. That's where the glitter comes from. Unicorn Hemorrhoids. Citation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuL_M4HDdc Rr

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Razer
On 07/12/2017 03:21 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 07/11/2017 11:15 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: >> This is as opposed to anarcho-syndicalism or various other flavors of >> anarchism, which are grounded in the belief that money and trade are >> evil and that love and unicorn farts are sufficient to

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Razer
On 07/12/2017 03:18 PM, juan wrote: > That may be one of the meanings, but it seems kinda obvious > that overall, 'liberal' comes from 'liberty'. Liberty, as the US "Founders" understood it, meant the liberty to own property, including humans. Just sayin'. That per Richard Hofstadter

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread jim bell
From: John Newman >"Anarcho-capitalism" has more in common with fascism and post-industrial >feudalism than any real ideal of freedom and life without coercion. >For a fair idea of how it might play out, just look back 150 years >to the gilded age - the government was a fuck of

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:47 PM, John Newman wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:08:00PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Kevin Gallagher >> wrote: >> > Thanks to everyone for your replies! >> > >> > On Jul 11, 2017 9:16 PM,

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Jul 12, 2017 7:22 PM, "Shawn K. Quinn" wrote: > > Hey, I'm fine with love, but for the unicorn farts I'll need plenty of > good air freshener. > Unicorn's farts have cotton-candy smell, are colorful like rainbows and full of shining glitter. #love (* o *) <3 They're

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 07/11/2017 11:15 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > This is as opposed to anarcho-syndicalism or various other flavors of > anarchism, which are grounded in the belief that money and trade are > evil and that love and unicorn farts are sufficient to sustain life. Hey, I'm fine with love, but for the

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 08:01:28 -0700 Razer wrote: > > > On 07/11/2017 09:15 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > > people arrange themselves in hierarchies all the time > > If there's any saving grace to the earth-raping technology we've > unleashed on ourselves, for better or worse, it's

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:13:58 -0400 Kevin Gallagher wrote: > > For the life of me I can't think of any heirarchies that aren't, at > least in part, founded on deceit or force (or both). That's a good point. So called 'anarcho capitalists' are not

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 10:16:26 -0400 Kevin Gallagher wrote: > On Jul 12, 2017 4:32 AM, "juan" wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:15:19 -0700 > Kurt Buff wrote: > > > > > Murray Rothbard or Ludwig von Mises for starters, > > >

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread John Newman
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 12:08:00PM -0700, Kurt Buff wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Kevin Gallagher > wrote: > > Thanks to everyone for your replies! > > > > On Jul 11, 2017 9:16 PM, "Kurt Buff" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:22

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Kevin Gallagher wrote: > Thanks to everyone for your replies! > > On Jul 11, 2017 9:16 PM, "Kurt Buff" wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Kevin Gallagher > wrote: >> Here is where I

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
LOn Jul 12, 2017 1:16 AM, "Kurt Buff" wrote: > > This is as opposed to anarcho-syndicalism or various other flavors of anarchism, which are grounded in the belief that money and trade are evil and that love and unicorn farts are sufficient to sustain life. Bah, surviving

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Steve Kinney
On 07/11/2017 04:25 PM, juan wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 11:31:23 -0400 > Steve Kinney wrote: > >> >> >> On 07/11/2017 10:59 AM, Razer wrote: >> >>> CrimetInc Ex-Worker Podcast #18: "What Anarchism Isn’t, Pt 1: >>> Libertarianism and Anarcho-Capitalism" >>> >>> With

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Razer
On 07/11/2017 09:15 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > people arrange themselves in hierarchies all the time If there's any saving grace to the earth-raping technology we've unleashed on ourselves, for better or worse, it's the empowerment that technology gives us to break with that way of 'doing

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Kevin Gallagher
On Jul 12, 2017 4:32 AM, "juan" wrote: On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:15:19 -0700 Kurt Buff wrote: > > Murray Rothbard or Ludwig von Mises for starters, conservative garbage That may or may not be true, but either way I gain an advantage from reading

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread Kevin Gallagher
Thanks to everyone for your replies! On Jul 11, 2017 9:16 PM, "Kurt Buff" wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Kevin Gallagher wrote: > Here is where I start to have questions. To my understanding, anarchy is the > rejection of heirarchies.

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-12 Thread juan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 21:15:19 -0700 Kurt Buff wrote: > > Murray Rothbard or Ludwig von Mises for starters, conservative garbage would > be an eye opener for you. > > Kurt

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Kevin Gallagher wrote: > Here is where I start to have questions. To my understanding, anarchy is the > rejection of heirarchies. Isn't anarcho-capitalism therefore an oxymoron? No, anarcho-capitalism is grounded in the understanding that

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread juan
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Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread juan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 04:22:59 -0400 Kevin Gallagher wrote: > > Here is where I start to have questions. To my understanding, anarchy > is the rejection of heirarchies. Isn't anarcho-capitalism therefore an > oxymoron? The existence of currency inherently creates a

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread juan
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 11:31:23 -0400 Steve Kinney wrote: > > > On 07/11/2017 10:59 AM, Razer wrote: > > > CrimetInc Ex-Worker Podcast #18: "What Anarchism Isn’t, Pt 1: > > Libertarianism and Anarcho-Capitalism" > > > > With transcript: https://crimethinc.com/podcast/18 >

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread jim bell
From: Razer On 07/11/2017 10:12 AM, jim bell wrote: From: Razer Anarchast is the world's largest anarchist/anarcho-capitalist video podcast in the world with 3 million views on Youtube and millions of audio downloads as well

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread Razer
On 07/11/2017 10:12 AM, jim bell wrote: > > > *From:* Razer > > Anarchast is the world's largest anarchist/anarcho-capitalist video >> >> podcast in the world with 3 million views on Youtube and millions of >> audio downloads as well as being broadcast on satellite

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread Razer
On 07/11/2017 01:22 AM, Kevin Gallagher wrote: > On Jul 10, 2017 6:40 PM, "grarpamp" > wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9SbKkm1PbA > >

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 04:22:59AM -0400, Kevin Gallagher wrote: > Here is where I start to have questions. To my understanding, > anarchy is the rejection of heirarchies. Assertions (such as this e.g.) are easy to throw out. The trick is to catch yourself using, speaking, or projecting any

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread Kevin Gallagher
On Jul 10, 2017 6:40 PM, "grarpamp" wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9SbKkm1PbA https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAnarchast/videos https://anarchast.com/ https://twitter.com/anarchast https://www.facebook.com/Anarchast/ Intereating! I will have to check these links

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-11 Thread grarpamp
On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Razer wrote: > oooh they haz FACEBOOK page! > (I'll stick with Deek Jackson) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXv40mWpJsU A failure of many youtube anarchists is that they're too busy (and to credit, ok at) talking state facts, bashing, and

Re: Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-10 Thread Razer
On 07/10/2017 10:38 AM, grarpamp wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9SbKkm1PbA > https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAnarchast/videos > https://anarchast.com/ > https://twitter.com/anarchast > https://www.facebook.com/Anarchast/ > > Anarchast is your home for Anarchy on the internet. > To us,

Welcome To Anarchast!

2017-07-10 Thread grarpamp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9SbKkm1PbA https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAnarchast/videos https://anarchast.com/ https://twitter.com/anarchast https://www.facebook.com/Anarchast/ Anarchast is your home for Anarchy on the internet. To us, Anarchy means freedom. The desire to live without a