Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-25 Thread Steve Mynott
Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frankly, I doubt that you have read "The Communist Manifesto." For > multiple reasons, including its length and boringness. Its length? The Communist Manifesto is extremely short and probably the most accessible of the works of Karl Marx and easily readabl

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk [ Samuelson-bashing ]

2001-04-25 Thread Steve Mynott
Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 09:08 AM 04/22/2001 -0700, Tim May wrote: > >I haven't found Samuelson's textbook useful for any of the > >interesting discussions of markets, black markets, offshore havens, ... > > I used Samuelson's textbooks to study micro and macro in college. >

Re: Amtrak & The War On Drugs

2001-04-25 Thread Steve Mynott
Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > From our perspective, it will show the foolishness of government > overreaction (ordering a million animals to be slaughtered and burned > with tires and old pressure-treated lumber railroad ties). I would agree 100% with this from a UK perspective. > I

Re: Amtrak & The War On Drugs

2001-04-25 Thread Ken Brown
Tim May wrote: > > At 5:20 PM -0700 4/24/01, David Honig wrote: > >At 11:02 AM 4/24/01 +0100, Ken Brown wrote: > > and burn a million cows on pyres of > >>used tyres and railway sleepers (they are thinking of using napalm to > >>save money) > > > >The chemicals in the materials you're using for

biochemwomd terror again, today

2001-04-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE Chemical Weapons Defense Subcommittee hearing on Chemical Demilitarization. Witnesses: Joseph Westphal, acting secretary of the Army; James Bacon, program manager, Chemical Demilitarization; Michael Parker, program manager, Assembled Chemical Weapons Assessment;

still more biochemwomdterror

2001-04-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
DEFENSE The Brookings Institution (BI) National Issues Forum, "Terrorism and U.S. Foreign Policy." Participants: Patrick Clawson, Washington Insitute for Foreign Policy; Paul Pillar, former deputy chief, Counterterrorist Center, CIA (CIA); John Parachini, Monterey Institute of International St

NSA budget committee hearing today (CLOSED HEARING)

2001-04-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE NSA Defense Subcommittee hearing on FY2002 appropriations for the National Security Agency (NSA). Location: H-140 The Capitol. 9:30 a.m. Contact: 202-225-2771 http://www.house.gov/appropriations **CLOSED**

even more biochemwomdterror

2001-04-25 Thread Declan McCullagh
Experts Highlight Shortcomings Of National Terrorism Preparedness & Response Capabilities 7 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:01:41 -0400 7 Subject: 4/24/01 Experts Highlight Shortcomings Of National Terrorism Preparedness & Response Capabilities 7 From: "Hansen, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Right to anon. speech online upheld in US district court

2001-04-25 Thread John Young
Declan hoplessed: >I'm just encouraging you to refrain from baiting the resident sharks. That'd plonk the whole discoursing shebang, I mean lockbox all golden tongues everywhere. Then journalisming kaput, and professorialing, and congressionaling, and getting inside the barflied nobodies's in

RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs

2001-04-25 Thread Trei, Peter
> Ken Brown[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Tim May wrote: > > > > At 5:20 PM -0700 4/24/01, David Honig wrote: > > >At 11:02 AM 4/24/01 +0100, Ken Brown wrote: > > > and burn a million cows on pyres of > > >>used tyres and railway sleepers (they are thinking of using napalm to > > >>save money) >

RE: Right to anon. speech online upheld in US district court

2001-04-25 Thread David Honig
At 03:09 PM 4/24/01 -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: > >This caught me a nudder fish. I'm going into my reinforced steel shark cage, >'cause this tells Mr. Big Fish could be behind him (Tim is like those >three sharks with memory in that Deep Blue Sea movie.) > Tim may or may not have descended from

Re: Gibberish was Re: Right to anon. speech online upheld in US district court

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 06:41 AM, Steve Mynott wrote: > Is John Young actually a Nym for Robert Hettinga? > > Or is there meaning hidden via some advanced steganographical > technique? > > John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> That'd plonk the whole discoursing shebang, I mean lock

Gibberish was Re: Right to anon. speech online upheld in US district court

2001-04-25 Thread Steve Mynott
Is John Young actually a Nym for Robert Hettinga? Or is there meaning hidden via some advanced steganographical technique? John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That'd plonk the whole discoursing shebang, I mean lockbox all > golden tongues everywhere. > > Then journalisming kaput, and pr

Re: The Crypto State

2001-04-25 Thread Ray Dillinger
Hey Tim. I've got a great idea. Let's ignore each other. Bear

RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs

2001-04-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Trei, Peter wrote: >Just how dangerous an extra 25+% dioxin is I don't know. Only it's a lot more harm than you'd think, if that 25% is concentrated somewhere along the human food chain. Which it seems to be. Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], gsm: +358-50-

RE: Airlines & IDs [was RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs]

2001-04-25 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Peter wrote: > My understanding is this: > > 1. It is not a regulatory requirement for an airline > passenger in the US to produce identification. > > 2. In fact, it's a violation of the airline's common carrier > status for them to do so - they must admit anyone who > shows up with a valid

The Crews Proposal vs. Intentional Communities

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 8:13 PM +0300 4/25/01, Sampo Syreeni wrote: >On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >>I think this may be one idea for which you don't want credit. > >Actually it's one that's been implemented. The problem is, those perverters >made their Net such a fun place *everybody* wanted part of

Re: [Fwd: YOU ARE INVITED: "Will Encryption Protect Privacy and Make Government Obsolete?" -- Next Independent Policy Forum (4/24/01)]

2001-04-25 Thread Faustine
Quoting "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -- > At 04:50 PM 4/24/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: > >http://www.best.com/~ddfr/Academic/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law. > html. > > > > > >I read these essays: is this really representative of his best work? > It > seemed > >awfully ru

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-25 Thread Faustine
Quoting Richard Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Tim May wrote: > > >On Tuesday, April 24, 2001, at 09:21 AM, Bill Stewart wrote: > > > >>Perhaps the field has changed since I was in college, but back then, > >>academic econometrics had the reputation of being dominated by > Marxists - It's chan

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 12:05 PM -0700 4/25/01, Richard Fiero wrote: >Tim May wrote: >>> >>I'll provide a data point about what corporations want: they hire a >>_lot_ of MBAs, but not a lot of "economists." Sure, MBAs have to >>complete a series of econ courses, probably based on Samuelson and >>the various micro-

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 3:57 PM -0400 4/25/01, Faustine wrote: >Quoting Richard Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Richard Fiero did not write any of what you commented on. Please be more careful with your quoting conventions. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May [EMAIL PROTECTED]Corralitos, California Political

RE: Airlines & IDs [was RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs]

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 12:51 PM -0700 4/25/01, Woody Patterson wrote: >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> It's just as easy today- at least for one-ways. Just have the >> individual >> with the ID check in and hand the ticket to you. I've done it a >> million >> times. >> Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email

Re: The Crews Proposal vs. Intentional Communities

2001-04-25 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Tim May wrote: >And the proposal brings up (again) the interesting issue of just what >"the Net" is: Yep. It would be a boon if everybody who thinks they have a say in network architecture these days learned their TC/IP, BGP and OSPF before charging to change the infra. And

RE: [Fwd: YOU ARE INVITED: "Will Encryption Protect Privacy and Make Government Obsolete?" -- Next Independent Policy Forum (4/24/01)]

2001-04-25 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
interesting to me that out of my four years working for the IMF, I've never once seen any of these textbooks on an economist's bookshelf. perhaps post-PhDs working in the real world have a vastly different view of academic economics. phillip btw everyone does, however, read the latest papers in

Re: The Well-Read Cypherpunk

2001-04-25 Thread Richard Fiero
Tim May wrote: >On Tuesday, April 24, 2001, at 09:21 AM, Bill Stewart wrote: > >>Perhaps the field has changed since I was in college, but back then, >>academic econometrics had the reputation of being dominated by Marxists - >>. . . >I'll provide a data point about what corporations want: they

RE: Airlines & IDs [was RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs]

2001-04-25 Thread aluger
At Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:29:29 -0400, "Trei, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sandy Sandfort[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote >> >> Peter wrote: >> >> > My understanding is this: >> > >> > 1. It is not a regulatory requirement for an airline >> > passenger in the US to produce identificati

RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs

2001-04-25 Thread David Honig
At 09:59 AM 4/25/01 -0400, Trei, Peter wrote: >The figure I heard was that up to this date, the amount of dioxin released >in the cow-pyres was equal to 25% of the total annual British industrial >output. Presumably more will be released as the cull goes on (they really >should be using napalm).

Re: [Fwd: YOU ARE INVITED: "Will Encryption Protect Privacy and Make Government Obsolete?" -- Next Independent Policy Forum (4/24/01)]

2001-04-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 04:50 PM 4/24/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: >http://www.best.com/~ddfr/Academic/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law/Anarchy_and_Eff_Law. html. > > >I read these essays: is this really representative of his best work? It seemed >awfully rudimentary. In fact, I did a search on the NBER website for any real

Airlines & IDs [was RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs]

2001-04-25 Thread Trei, Peter
> Ralph Wallis[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > On Tuesday, 24 Apr 2001 at 16:13, Tim May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, it used to be SOP to buy train tickets at the ticket > > window--for cash and with no I.D. or phone numbers or SS numbers or > > forehead marks. > > > > It looks like

Undermining government power and authority

2001-04-25 Thread John Young
At a conference yesterday at Columbia on whether encryption will protect privacy -- among panelists Whit Diffie and Steve Levy -- panelist John Podesta, former Clinton chief of staff, argued that law will be needed to combat privacy-trasngressive technology, that encryption will not be up to the

RE: Airlines & IDs [was RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs]

2001-04-25 Thread Trei, Peter
> Sandy Sandfort[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote > > Peter wrote: > > > My understanding is this: > > > > 1. It is not a regulatory requirement for an airline > > passenger in the US to produce identification. > > > > 2. In fact, it's a violation of the airline's common carrier > > status for

Re: [Fwd: YOU ARE INVITED: "Will Encryption Protect Privacy and Make Government Obsolete?" -- Next Independent Policy Forum (4/24/01)]

2001-04-25 Thread Faustine
Quoting William Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Faustine sez: > [David Friedman has published . . .] > > Nothing good enough to get mentioned at NBER, the > > veritable gold standard > > (if > > you'll allow) of academic research in economics. > > 5 minutes of time at econlit (the standard index > o

Re: The Crews Proposal vs. Intentional Communities

2001-04-25 Thread Adam Back
[Got a bounce first time due to list management software command] What would be sensible is third party ratings. If a given country wants to censor things (Germans and French certain writings, other governments other writings), just let them create their rating service and allow their citizens

Free market solutions to foot and mouth disease outbreaks

2001-04-25 Thread Tim May
At 6:33 PM -0500 4/25/01, Jim Choate wrote: >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 06:43:20PM -0700, Tim May wrote: >> > From our perspective, it will show the foolishness of government >> > overreaction (ordering a million animals to be slaughtered and burn

No Subject

2001-04-25 Thread Aimee Farr
A complete dweeb wrote: > Anyway, this is an old cpunk topic and there are some asses here,.. *gulp* ASSETS. My apologies for a most inappropriate and unintentional remark, I slapped my spellchecker. ~Aimee

RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs (gray travel)

2001-04-25 Thread Aimee Farr
I wrote, and to curb offlist replies, flames and comparisons to John Young, I write again: > BTW, I need a gray travel consultant. Lemme know if anybody knows of one. > Will accept salt-and-pepper gray. = low-key/anonymous travel, increasingly critical to execs in certain parts of the world, as

RE: Amtrak & The War On Drugs (gray travel)

2001-04-25 Thread Alan Olsen
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: > I wrote, and to curb offlist replies, flames and comparisons to John Young, > I write again: > > > BTW, I need a gray travel consultant. Lemme know if anybody knows of one. > > Will accept salt-and-pepper gray. > > = low-key/anonymous travel, increasingl