Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Wednesday, August 29, 2001, at 08:17 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:30:42PM -0500, Aimee Farr wrote: I would say something, but I've been reminded that you're supposed to let convicts dig their own graves. Come, Aimee, I've said before that you are educable. You

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Maybe, but it seems like offense just got a boost. Passive biodefenses don't work against an active offense. Ablative, camouflage, and contact poison ones do. Nature is full of 'passive' defenses that are effective. Evolutionary Wars: A 3 Billion

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Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: Maybe, but it seems like offense just got a boost. Passive biodefenses don't work against an active offense. If sniffers start landing on your skin and taking a microscopic sample, then they won't be trivial to defend against. Biology can't help

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2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Tim - I've been off the list for a long time but return to find that I actually agree with a bunch of your posts. What the fuck happened? Aimee you have done wonders for love. Feds here put my bits into the vacuumed up collection of the day for later style and word adjacency analysis and

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Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread amp
The really funny thing about this is that if you search through for archives I'd be willing to bet you'd get a hundred hits or so for almost exactly the quote below. Tim May is a scary guy with a lot of guns who says he's going to defend his rights. I've been on and off the list at various

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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Dr. Evil
Sandy, Aimee, Unicorn, Dillinger, Choate, Nomen Nescio, what about me? Am I not worthy of this rant?

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: The cypherpunk world replaces coercion with cooperation. It provides the shield of anonymity against those who would offer violence and aggression. As we move into the information age, control of information is control of the individual. Thus, privacy, control of

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Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Paul Pomes
At 11:25 PM 8/29/01 -0700, Bill Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A group of researchers at Notre Dame figured out how to use the TCP Checksum calculations to get other computers to do number-crunching for them. Below, we present an implementation of a parasitic computer using

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Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Greg Broiles
At 07:00 AM 8/30/2001 -0500, Dean, James wrote: Don't fall for this. After registering at www.nature.com (supplying personal details), you find you'll have to pay to see the article. See http://www.nd.edu/~parasite/, including a .PDF of the article at http://www.nd.edu/~parasite/nature.pdf.

RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- Reese You [Aimee Farr]are entirely too smug and happy, at the thought of these various mechanisms useful for preserving privacy and anonymity going the way of the dodo. Aimee Farr That is not my attitude at all, Reese. It is your attitude. You keep telling us privacy is

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Declan McCullagh
It makes sense that human debris would be a portion of the waste removed, but compared to food items, dead rats, discarded trash and newspapers, it strikes me that it would not be an especially large portion. --Declan At 09:47 PM 8/29/01 -0400, Ryan Arneson wrote: Someone tell the Travel

Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread David Honig
At 08:56 PM 8/29/01 -0700, Tim May wrote: Blacknet is an interesting idea, but only if it used by Steele and his CIA friends. Can you assure us it will not be used except for good uses, such as those by the CIA and DEA? We develop the tecnology. The policy and how you implement them is not

Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Batman Svejk
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Next, we started seeing sissies like Ray Dillinger, er, Bear, some sort of polyamoristic wuss-ninny from northern California, urging us to change the subject, to talk about the nurturing and children-friendly aspects of

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RE: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 16:00, Aimee Farr wrote: Your idea does seem to offer promise as a vehicle for treason, espionage, trade secrets, malicious mischief, piracy, bribery of public officials, concealment of assets, transmission of wagering information, murder for hire, threatening or

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 26 Aug 2001, at 10:46, Tim May wrote: Anyway, it is not easy to create a public company, a public nexus of attack, and then deploy systems which target that high-value sweet spot. The real bankers and the regulators won't allow such things into the official banking system. (Why do

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 06:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: Is Tom Clancy going to spend much time in stir for machine gunning the US Congress at the end of Debt of Honor? Possibly: see the campaign to put away John Ross, author of

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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 08:50 AM, Batman Svejk wrote: Next, we started seeing sissies like Ray Dillinger, er, Bear, some sort of polyamoristic wuss-ninny from northern California, urging us to change the subject, to talk about the nurturing and children-friendly aspects of crypto.

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 21:40, Nomen Nescio wrote: Freedom fighters in communist-controlled regimes. How much money do they have? More importantly, how much are they willing and able to spend on anonymity/privacy/black-market technologies? These guys aren't rolling in dough. Freedom

RE: Agents kick crypto ass....was The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread jamesd
-- On 27 Aug 2001, at 23:22, Aimee Farr wrote: Considering the incredibly bad timing of this discussion in light of world events, I don't see how you could call ME a provocateur. My jibe was good-natured. You keep posting the equivalent of classified ads. I know who wants this shit

News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
This report says the U.S. Gov't. has plans to make SafeWeb, the Web proxy company it helped fund through the CIA, available to Chinese citizens who want to bypass their government's censorship. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010830/wr/tech_china_internet_report_dc_1. html (I can already

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 12:16 PM, Adam Shostack wrote: As far as your opinions of our business, well, I'm really uninterested in getting into a pissing match with you. The reality is that customers and investors give us money tp produce privacy tools, and they, not you, are the

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 05:28:24PM -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: For Tim: Why are you attempting to provoke public discussion about things that could get people jailed or worse for discussing them? It's interesting to see you post your sweet spot

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Eugene Leitl
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: How about a tailored virus that modifies your DNA on a rotating basis in non significant fashion so that you're constantly new. I wonder Unless you go for full sequencing, you would have to jumble restriction sites. if that would be theoretically

Re: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Adam wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: | Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is | difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also | pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade, freedom

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread Tim May
On Thursday, August 30, 2001, at 12:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent overthrow of the government and playing soldier in the woods could constitute intent?

Re: Borders UK and privacy

2001-08-30 Thread Jim Choate
On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Duncan Frissell wrote: How about a tailored virus that modifies your DNA on a rotating basis in non significant fashion so that you're constantly new. I wonder if that would be theoretically possible? Fun times. You would have to do it to the 'junk' and 'long term

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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
And I expect you are just another of the anonymous or pseudonymous ranters, maybe the same one recently using Nomen Nescio or A Melon. I know for sure that there's more than one. Any message posted to cypherpunks via an anonymous remailer gets an automatic +2 on hit points, for it practices

Re: Anonymous Posting

2001-08-30 Thread Anonymous
Tim May wrote: I don't recall the context, but I don't have any such friends or even acquaintances. Even those I know on the Far Right don't want to kill _all_ Jews, just the pesky freedom-stealing ones, and the millions who form the Zionist Occupation Government in the Zionist Entity of

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2001-08-30 Thread Frog2
Tim May wrote: I don't recall the context, but I don't have any such friends or even acquaintances. Even those I know on the Far Right don't want to kill _all_ Jews, just the pesky freedom-stealing ones, and the millions who form the Zionist Occupation Government in the Zionist Entity of

Re: Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Paul Pomes
At 07:00 AM 8/30/01 -0500, Dean, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't fall for this. After registering at www.nature.com (supplying personal details), you find you'll have to pay to see the article. What a surprise that the leading science journal in the world charges for the latest content.

RE: News: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Phillip H. Zakas
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Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Dr. Evil
You've left no impression on me. And I expect you are just another of the anonymous or pseudonymous ranters, maybe the same one recently using Nomen Nescio or A Melon. I wonder what Senor Escobar thinks of all this. Eh Senor? We haven't heard your street-wise opinions from the great

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Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread measl
On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: much true stuff snipped But even given the tattered First Amendment, there is still a difference between speech and action. Complete and utter bullshit. -Declan -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Governments really want us to

Re: U.S. May Help Chinese Evade Net Censorship

2001-08-30 Thread Faustine
Mike wrote: Faustine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Adam wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 10:02:54AM -0700, Tim May wrote: | Alas, the marketing of such dissident-grade untraceability is | difficult. Partly because anything that is dissident-grade is also | pedophile-grade, money launderer-grade,

Re: The Privacy/Untraceability Sweet Spot

2001-08-30 Thread mmotyka
Declan McCullagh wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:42:24PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bear may not be as far off the mark as you think. Remember back when the hot news of the day was militia groups how advocating the violent overthrow of the government and playing soldier in the

RE: CDR: Re: Wuss-ninnies object to discussions on the list

2001-08-30 Thread Batman Svejk
aspects of crypto. Fuck that. This is not some list for leftie greens and wuss-ninnies. Not all of the leftie greens object to discussions on this list, but if this (your?) list is not for greens, maybe those with different political views than your own should go away? If you think you

Stealth Computing Abuses TCP Checksums

2001-08-30 Thread Bill Stewart
http://fyi.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/08/29/stealth.computing/index.html http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/08/29/199205mode=thread A group of researchers at Notre Dame figured out how to use the TCP Checksum calculations to get other computers to do number-crunching for them.

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