Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Life is a Cabaret, my friends. on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 12:56:02PM -0700, Giovanna Imbesi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Last night my friend and I stopped at a Venice club/bar. At the door they were doing the normal ID check, but then took my

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 12:56:02PM -0700, Giovanna Imbesi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Last night my friend and I stopped at a Venice club/bar. At the door they were doing the normal ID check, but then took my driver's license and swiped it into a little Palm-like device...and all the info

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 01:17 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Steve Schear wrote: At 01:42 PM 10/20/2001 -0400, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: The direction of all recent administrations has been to expand globalization (i.e., interdependency) thus increasing economic

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2001-10-20 Thread Bill Stewart
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Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 03:09 PM, David Honig wrote: At 01:44 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: At 12:20 AM 10/20/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Dr. Evil wrote: Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? Do all states even have magstrips? You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has a mag strip. This is a new thing for WI, I think. Pretty sure my recent MN didn't have one. I guess

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote: Talking about low wage sweat shop jobs indicates profound confusion on your part. Sorry to be so blunt, but this is the way it is. Henry Hazlitt wrote a good book on basic economics. I doubt I can convince you in a few paragraphs, but consider some

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Dr. Evil
You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has a mag strip. This is a new thing for WI, I think. Pretty sure my recent MN didn't have one. I guess the more interesting thing would be, before wiping it out, to figure out a way to read it. I'm sure you can buy card

Re: CDR: RE: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote: More Inchoate reasoning. Jimbo wrote: The reality is that these sweatshops do exist, that they do exploit the workers... Gee, I wonder why these workers chose to be exploited instead of taking a job somewhere else in their benighted

Re: http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 01:44 PM 10/20/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: At 12:20 AM 10/20/2001 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery substances. ROTFLOL! Does that mean they're

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 05:48:44PM -0500, Harmon Seaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Dr. Evil wrote: Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? Do all states even have magstrips? You know, I never even realized until right now that my DL has a mag

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Dr. Evil
You mean the magstripe on your license still carries information? Give that man a magnet. There's an even simpler alternative: Sure, CA licenses may have this mag strip, but the format is not universal throughout the world, or even the US. Carry your passport, which doesn't have a mag strip

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, David Honig wrote: \begin{asbestos} In a centrally-ruled (statist) society some elites decide what *should* make *others* happy. And forces everyone to pay for it. Not only doomed in reality, but immoral. \end{} This isn't 'government' (statist or otherwise), it's

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2001-10-20 Thread Tabla bin Rasa
Zen Terrorism: sending random letters which say, No anthrax here. Have a nice day.

Sign of Escalating Threat

2001-10-20 Thread Anonymous sender
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RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Xeni Jardin
Tim May wrote: WASHINGTON (Routers News Service) Because of false alarms involving the confectioner's sugar on powdered donuts, sale of so-called assault donuts will henceforth be restricted to law enforcement officers. Cops have always been the largest consumers of donuts, this just makes

RE: New kind of FUD :-)

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
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RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Xeni Jardin
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Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Hmm, seems my DL is already out of date. WI is switching to a new form of barcode: http://www.dot.state.wi.us/dmv/digital.html License back contains information and new 2-D bar code The fee paid for the product is indicated on the top of the

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Steve Furlong
Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, seems my DL is already out of date. WI is switching to a new form of barcode: 2-D barcode Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint something over the barcode

Re: Ridge is lying, spores are pro

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Khoder bin Hakkin wrote: In Washington, Ridge told reporters the anthrax analyzed in the United States had not been ``weaponized,'' meaning it had not been manipulated to facilitate inhalation by potential victims. And to resist antibiotics. --

Calendar from Egypt: Image of WTC attack for month of Sept.

2001-10-20 Thread citizenQ
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/27/124953.shtml A calendar which was printed in Egypt and for the month of September shows a crashing passenger plane with Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop -- and which was printed in May, a full three months before the Sept. 11

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French Nazis charge student with speaking freely

2001-10-20 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
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Re: stupid anthrax q: would microwaving your snail mail help?

2001-10-20 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, October 20, 2001, at 09:13 AM, Declan McCullagh wrote: Dare I say it? Another reason to use just 7-bit ASCII. I'm not particularly religious on this issue, but for text-based discussions like the ones we have here, anything else just doesn't seem necessary, and can lead to

Re: Retribution not enough

2001-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 05:35:53PM -0700, Steve Schear wrote: The direction of all recent administrations has been to expand globalization (i.e., interdependency) thus increasing economic risks and narrowing diplomatic choices. In the short term, and we have no idea what When I speak of

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Re: http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/conditions/10/20/anthrax/

2001-10-20 Thread David Honig
At 12:20 AM 10/20/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Northwest Airlines has banned sugar substitutes and non-dairy creamers from its airplanes to avoid anthrax scares sparked by the white, powdery substances. ROTFLOL! Yes but you can still bring your own onboard, though its not recommended by

Re: Retribution Time

2001-10-20 Thread Jon Beets
Ooookay.. The really sad part is you either think your really cool typing this crap or you lack any real social skills... Probably both Jon Beets - Original Message - From: Nomen Nescio [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:30 PM Subject:

Re: stupid anthrax q: would microwaving your snail mail help?

2001-10-20 Thread Declan McCullagh
Dare I say it? Another reason to use just 7-bit ASCII. I'm not particularly religious on this issue, but for text-based discussions like the ones we have here, anything else just doesn't seem necessary, and can lead to strange results like what we just saw. -Declan On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at

RE: Retribution Time

2001-10-20 Thread Sandy Sandfort
Hear, hear. This sort of crap is the inevitable outcome of an unmoderated list. All the loons come out to play because there are no real negative consequences for being a loon. And filtering does not do anything besides bury one's head in the sand. I have an solution... (no, it's not AP).

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2001-10-20 Thread citizenQ
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2001-10-20 Thread citizenQ
This week Ellison offered specifics about his proposal in an interview... The new ID's would be voluntary for everyone except immigrants... Q: why is a national ID necessary? A: All ... IDs are different and they are easy to counterfeit. My pilot's license ... is cut from a piece of

Ridge is lying, spores are pro

2001-10-20 Thread Khoder bin Hakkin
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Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
According to the MI state page, MI has a a strict law limiting what the mag stripe and barcode can contain, only the DL #, DOB, and expiration date. http://www.sos.state.mi.us/drlic/sos-365.html -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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2001-10-20 Thread Jon Beets
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Re: Zen Terrorism

2001-10-20 Thread Anonymous User
Does the color blue represent the spores contained in this letter? If so, why does blue hate If the sky falls, will it be blue again? - Original Message - From: Tabla bin Rasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:14 AM Subject: Zen Terrorism Zen

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint something over the barcode like some plastic disolving solvent, making it unreadable. Defacing a state DL is a

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread keyser-soze
At 09:54 PM 10/20/2001 -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote: Hmm, one of these would be handy. http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm Nahh... probably too expensive and difficult to purchase. All you need is an ALPS dye-sub printer. Quality is photo. The 1300/2300 models can be had for about

Re: Calendar from Egypt: Image of WTC attack for month of Sept.

2001-10-20 Thread Sunder
Why bother. Just go to www.newsmax.com and you will see the type of stories they have is one or two steps away from also having Elvis Lives and I fucked a girl from Jupiter stories. It's so yellow, it makes the National Enquirer look bright white.

RE: Assault Donuts

2001-10-20 Thread Tabla bin Rasa
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2001-10-20 Thread mattd
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Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
Hmm, one of these would be handy. http://www.eltroncards.com/printers/p520.htm -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Steve Furlong
Jim Choate wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Harmon Seaver wrote: Looks like other states are doing the same thing. So much for erasing the mag strip. But I suppose it would be fairly easy to paint something over the barcode like some plastic disolving solvent, making it unreadable.

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2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
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Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Steve Furlong wrote: Jim, I'm going to have to call bullshit on that. A few minutes' checking (google and the revised code pages of a handful of states) shows that defacing a DL generally seems to be a violation, not even a misdemeanor. Then you didn't look very hard at

Re: CDR: Re: Clubbing in Fortress Amerika (fwd)

2001-10-20 Thread measl
On 20 Oct 2001, Dr. Evil wrote: Do different states use different formats for the data on the magstrip? I believe they are all using ABA encoding. Of course, I could also be wrong :-) Do all states even have magstrips? Again, I may be wrong, but IIRC, there is now n active effort to

Google Search: defacing driver license

2001-10-20 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.google.com/search?q=defacing+driver+license -- -- The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion. Edmund Burke (1784) The Armadillo