On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:40:26AM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:48:37PM -0500, Dave Emery wrote:
> > I might hasten to add that as I am sure Declan knows, this
> > addition to the Homeland Defense Act also includes the CSEA provisions
> > that turn hobby listening
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> 1100 other firms.
> Cross-indexing with the CP subscriber list,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 10:48:37PM -0500, Dave Emery wrote:
> I might hasten to add that as I am sure Declan knows, this
> addition to the Homeland Defense Act also includes the CSEA provisions
> that turn hobby listening to certain easy to receive but off limit
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> Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
>
[Mike wrote: No, I think the Muslims need to back down, or be forced
to. ]
"[Muslims] Have been at war against the Israelies [sic] since Bible times"??
Mike, I hate to break it to you, but Muslims did not exist before
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I'll take this under consideration and see if I can verify it independantly.
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, peter zulu wrote:
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>
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Let's have some history here. The "Muslims" have not been at war against the
> "Israelites" since Biblical times. That is completely wrong. Hell, there
> haven't been any "Israelites" for nearly two millenia.
More to the point, there were no Muslims in
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On 19 Nov 2002 at 15:45, Tyler Durden wrote:
> Mikey: I would suggest tangling with Chomsky for a bit. Start
> with...
>
> http://zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=11&ItemID=2
> 312
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 17 Cypherpunks subscribers on watch list, Project Lookout
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:06:35 -0800
A company I am involved with has been on the dist
On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 02:06 PM, Tim May wrote:
A company I am involved with has been on the distribution list for the
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1100 other firms.
Cross
May says:
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On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:30 pm, Jim Dixon wrote:
> More to the point, there were no Muslims in Biblical times. The
> Muslims appeared around 600 years after Christ, centuries after the
> beginning of the Jewish diaspora. The Romans drove the Jews out of
> Jerusalem and
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 03:06 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote
> You don't deny either of my surmises about your experience or lack
> thereof.
I didn't find them relevent. My understanding of the facts doesn't matter.
I was LOOKING for the f
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Cross-indexing with the CP subscriber list, I find 17 names on both
At 14:06 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote:
The british got VERY upset with us because of a tendency
to shoot officers which was considered very bad "form". I believe it
was common practice to hang anyone found armed with a rifle for what
amounted to war crimes. But again, very poor rate
At 15:57 -0500 on 11/19/02, Trei, Peter wrote:
Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we
succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new form of
warfare". The reality is that the british were marching in formation
for
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 02:25 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > If I might ask, if they had suffered light casualties, why were they
> > in retreat?
>
> They were exhausted and outnumbered (the redcoats
> were a raiding party
> Mike Diehl[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:57 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > > Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea
> that we
> > > succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a
"Well, they have enough non-central leadership to all be against Israel and
the US. And to have been at war against the Israelies since Bible times..."
OK, Mike, this is a good example of the kind of "facts" that lead to fairly
easy (though erroneous) conclusions.
Let's have some history here.
At 14:11 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote:
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:57 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we
> > succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new for
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:48 pm, Kevin Elliott wrote:
> Well, there nuggets and the larger truth... Rifles were widely used
> as sniper rifles by the Americans. They were commonly available
> (though expensive) because they are a far superior hunting tool than
> a smoothb
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:57 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> > Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we
> > succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new form of
> > warfare". The reality is that the
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:18 pm, Trei, Peter wrote:
> If you think 'the Muslims' are your enemy,
> then you have a problem.
I never said that they were MY enemy.
> 'The Muslims'
> are not a monolithic group, and have no
> central leadership. This is a bit lik
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On 19 Nov 2002 at 12:02, Kevin Elliott wrote:
> If you read between the lines of US history, you'll discover
> that America did not begin to succeed in the war until late
> in the war when the troops had become better trained and
> disciplined.
This is not my interpretation. Rather, the Am
> Kevin Elliott[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> At 10:37 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote:
> >> Unfortunately, terrorism is probably a predictable response by people
> >> who want to be able to control their own destinies, select their own
> >> leaders and forms of goivernment and so on.
>
At 13:14 -0700 on 11/19/02, Mike Diehl wrote:
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:02 pm, Kevin Elliott wrote:
> Correction in the interest of historical accuracy. The idea that we
> succeeded in the revolutionary war by "inventing a new form of
> warfare". The reality is that the bri
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