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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread Tyler Durden
James A Donald wrote... What made it a breeding ground for terrorism was not civil war, but diminuition of civil war. The problem was that the Taliban was damn near victorious. If the US government had maintained the relationship with our former anti communist allies, and kept on sending them

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

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--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- James A. Donald: And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is? On 24 Nov 2004 at 2:42, Bill Stewart wrote: Well, once you get past the invalid and dishonest parts of Bush's 57 reasons We Need to Invade Iraq Right Now (WMDs,

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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

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-- James A Donald wrote... What made [Afghanistan] a breeding ground for terrorism was not civil war, but diminuition of civil war. The problem was that the Taliban was damn near victorious. If the US government had maintained the relationship with our former anti communist allies,

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2004-11-25 Thread Tyler Durden
Well, I guess I agree. However, there is some issues of Cypherpunkly importance here, particularly concerning nation-states fighting other nation-states. Though I can't consider myself a true-believing anarchist, my own personal reason for continuing to post on the subject was to illustrate

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2004-11-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- On 25 Nov 2004 at 10:10, Tyler Durden wrote: More to the point is that a long term period of chaos and turbulence causes the locals to be willing to open the door to the like of the Taliban, Those who used to mindlessly chant commie propaganda now mindlessly chant islamist propaganda.

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A Donald wrote... And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is? Tyler Durden And the answer is: 9/11 sucked. Oh wait, I guess I have to explain that. After the Soviets were pushed out of Afghanistan the place became a veritable breeding ground for all sorts of virulent

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread John Young
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A Donald wrote... What made [Afghanistan] a breeding ground for terrorism was not civil war, but diminuition of civil war. The problem was that the Taliban was damn near victorious. If the US government had maintained the relationship with our former anti communist allies,

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Steve Thompson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [25/11/04 10:17]: : You're dreaming. People simply do not learn from history. People /do/ learn from history. But most people never bother learning history, period, and many of those that do believe that their situation is different. And... :

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2004-11-25 Thread Will Morton
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2004-11-25 Thread Major Variola (ret)
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Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread Steve Thompson
--- James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- James A. Donald: And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is? On 24 Nov 2004 at 2:42, Bill Stewart wrote: Well, once you get past the invalid and dishonest parts of Bush's 57 reasons We Need to Invade Iraq Right Now (WMDs,

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2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: And the problem with a civil war in Iraq is? On 24 Nov 2004 at 2:42, Bill Stewart wrote: Well, once you get past the invalid and dishonest parts of Bush's 57 reasons We Need to Invade Iraq Right Now (WMDs, Al-Qaeda, Tried to kill Bush's Daddy, etc.) you're pretty

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2004-11-25 Thread Steve Furlong
On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 08:38, Will Morton wrote: How long have soldiers deployed in war-zones been able to get life insurance? Would love to see their actuarial process... It's been a while since I was in the US Army, but I'm sure that the life insurance we had didn't cover

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread Tyler Durden
James A Donald wrote... What made it a breeding ground for terrorism was not civil war, but diminuition of civil war. The problem was that the Taliban was damn near victorious. If the US government had maintained the relationship with our former anti communist allies, and kept on sending them

Re: Fallujah: Marine Eye-Witness Report

2004-11-25 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald: Seems to me that permanent civil war in Iraq provides Americans with the same benefits as democracy in Iraq, though considerably more reliably. Steve Thompson You might be more accurate to say that a permanent [civil] war in Iraq benefits miltiary leaders and

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