Talking Back to Power: China's 'Haves' Stir the 'Have Nots' to Violence

I'm not really RAH, but I play him on cypherpunks ;-) http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/31/international/asia/31china.html? ex=1105532792ei=1en=61c003ece2c2eadb The Great Divide | Talking Back to Power: China's 'Haves' Stir the 'Have Nots' to Violence December 31, 2004 By JOSEPH KAHN

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 20:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: I've only read vague hints and rumours concerning its implicit design philosophy and architecture from the rare instances where it is mentioned at all. Yes, he code is probably classified (blah, blah, blah), but its actual use must

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

One the claims I have problems with (from the WIRED article): But the real power of PROMIS, according to Hamilton, is that with a staggering 570,000 lines of computer code, PROMIS can integrate innumerable databases without requiring any reprogramming. If this were true, I can guarantee that

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote: To be bobbed is never the goal, but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob along conventional paths, to the abattoir Where is Tim May when when you need him? :-)

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 20:58 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: I've only read vague hints and rumours concerning its implicit design philosophy and architecture from the rare instances where it is mentioned at all. Yes, he code is probably classified (blah, blah, blah), but its actual use must

Re: Michael Riconosciuto, PROMIS

One the claims I have problems with (from the WIRED article): But the real power of PROMIS, according to Hamilton, is that with a staggering 570,000 lines of computer code, PROMIS can integrate innumerable databases without requiring any reprogramming. If this were true, I can guarantee that

Re: Word Of the Subgenius...

On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 08:46 -0500, R.W. (Bob) Erickson wrote: To be bobbed is never the goal, but bobless fear steers the undifferentiated bob along conventional paths, to the abattoir Where is Tim May when when you need him? :-)

Re: Tenet calls for Internet security

On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 20:57 -0500, R.A. Hettinga quoted: The national press, including United Press International (UPI), were excluded from yesterday's event, at Mr. Tenet's request, organizers said. Yessiree, he sure knows how he wants it done, too!

Senators try to pull a fast one, almost get away with it.

on a 'staffer'. But later, according to the AP, Sen. Frist and congressional aides said it was inserted at the behest of Rep. Istook. - -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com GPG key ID: F16D6484A GPG key Finger Print: DD84 677A D3C4 9A84 37B8 7AD7 8A8A A5AB F16D 648A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Test - Ignore.

Test. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Evidence is clear: Videos convict

breaking down the door. Oww11 als;kfjlaskjlt6ihaklhglk;ajs al CARRIER TERMINATED -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Good Quote!

They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years, and Hell, we're not using it anymore. -Jay Leno -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Anti-globalization

for their vaporization. It would screw up his stock portfolio. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Good Quote!

They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq. Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years, and Hell, we're not using it anymore. -Jay Leno -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Now how they do that ?

that identifies a computer on the Internet, to Krastof's home address through his AOL account, White said. (snip) My guess that there was some sort of application (maybe an internally based IM client) that phoned home when the thief started up the computer. Or at least I hope -- Neil

Now how they do that ?

that identifies a computer on the Internet, to Krastof's home address through his AOL account, White said. (snip) My guess that there was some sort of application (maybe an internally based IM client) that phoned home when the thief started up the computer. Or at least I hope -- Neil

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

On Wednesday 26 November 2003 11:18 am, Tim May wrote: Liberty is characterized in the .sig below: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! -- Ben Franklin And if they are all armed ? They all starve. -- Neil

Patriot II provisions snuck through in spending bill.

Sigh.. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,61341,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

and claiming to be someone else at a different address other than the if the person has already voted or by relying on steel-trap memory of the volunteer elderly ladies than man the poll (of course in our small town that can be pretty effective) :) . -Neil -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

On Wednesday 26 November 2003 11:18 am, Tim May wrote: Liberty is characterized in the .sig below: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! -- Ben Franklin And if they are all armed ? They all starve. -- Neil

Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

and claiming to be someone else at a different address other than the if the person has already voted or by relying on steel-trap memory of the volunteer elderly ladies than man the poll (of course in our small town that can be pretty effective) :) . -Neil -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP

Re: Freedomphone

Streaming Protocol (RTSP), one stream for each direction. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Political Hyprocrisy in action.

I'm surprised no one has commented on Al Gore's speech (http://www.moveon.org/gore/speech2.html) where he talks about all the evil things that the Bush administration has done to to undermine our civil liberties. Got two words for ya Al: Clipper Chip -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com

test - please ignore

ping. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Remote vechicle shutdown

by the CHP, addresses ongoing concerns about the affordability of effective security technology, stealthiness of such a security device, and how GPS monitoring can be incorporated safely into law enforcement protocol. snip -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Chaumian blinding public voting?

On Friday 31 October 2003 10:55 pm, Tim May wrote: .. (Standard Tim May Anyone who doesn't agree with me deserves to die a horrible death rant) ... --Tim May I figured that was coming. Chuckle. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Chaumian blinding public voting?

the Election with a National Lottery with local, state, and national prizes. With appropriate delink of voter's identity from the way they voted of course. (I'm not claiming that this would actually improve things overall, just increase voter turnout). -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key

ECC and blinding.

Will ECC work with blinding (Chaum, Brands, etc.) techniques? Just curious. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win

get a subpoena you know about it. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

ECC and blinding.

Will ECC work with blinding (Chaum, Brands, etc.) techniques? Just curious. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: If you use encryption, you help the terrorists win

get a subpoena you know about it. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: NSA Turns To Commercial Software For Encryption

to a more efficient (or just different) algorithm. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Software protection scheme may boost new game sales (fwd)

a handsome profit before selling the company to larger outfit. I think they also sold other software the same way, they sold it cheap enough that people just spent the money to see if it was worth it. -Neil (who still runs Quicken 99 under windows 95 'casue it does everything I need to do) -- Neil

Re: Software protection scheme may boost new game sales (fwd)

a handsome profit before selling the company to larger outfit. I think they also sold other software the same way, they sold it cheap enough that people just spent the money to see if it was worth it. -Neil (who still runs Quicken 99 under windows 95 'casue it does everything I need to do) -- Neil

Versign creates man-in-the-middle attack on DNS

. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Versign creates man-in-the-middle attack on DNS

, which may be of interest to the NANOG community, is available here: http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/bestpractices.pdf Matt -- Matt Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriSign Naming and Directory Services -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Versign creates man-in-the-middle attack on DNS

. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Versign creates man-in-the-middle attack on DNS

probably been null-routed. There is an article on slashdot already: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/16/0034210 -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Versign creates man-in-the-middle attack on DNS

, which may be of interest to the NANOG community, is available here: http://www.verisign.com/resources/gd/sitefinder/bestpractices.pdf Matt -- Matt Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] VeriSign Naming and Directory Services -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Always check the lug nuts !!

for the bolts before attempting to moving the satelite. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Fatherland Security agents above the law?

intelligence efforts. or Shipped it using a forged From: address of an organization remotely linked with al Qaeda. Of course then the FBI would have had something to REALLY visit with ABC about... Another sheeple scare tatic by the media. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available

Re: Fatherland Security agents above the law?

intelligence efforts. or Shipped it using a forged From: address of an organization remotely linked with al Qaeda. Of course then the FBI would have had something to REALLY visit with ABC about... Another sheeple scare tatic by the media. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available

Re: unintended consequences: Davis recall leads to US internal passports

of going to trial as a negotiating tactic. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Funding for TIA All But Dead

. Rumsfield ! -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: DNA of relative indicts man, cuckolding ignored

dollars on some 80 year old's heart/lung transplant so he can live another 10 years, or spend that money on make sure an unwed mother's baby is born healthy? (Note: either choice has it's own sets of costs and rewards). -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: U.S. Drops 'E-Bomb' On Iraqi TV

think I know what my ethical choice a the time would have been. And afterward, I probably would have regretted it, realizing the can of worms I had just opened. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Things are looking better all the time [TERROR ALERT: Cerenkov Blue]

On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:50 pm, Neil Johnson wrote: When I went to work for the University I graduated from. I discovered all sorts of interesting things and even more when my sister enrolled. . . . Duh ! I forgot the point was that, if things are properly handled, it's not that hard

Re: Missile -launchers in iraq

unintentionally. - Most important, using Biological or Chemical Weapons is a two-edged sword. They could do just as much damage to their own troops as to the US and UK troops if they make a mistake. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Things are looking better all the time [TERROR ALERT: Cerenkov Blue]

On Tuesday 01 April 2003 08:50 pm, Neil Johnson wrote: When I went to work for the University I graduated from. I discovered all sorts of interesting things and even more when my sister enrolled.

Re: Quote of the Day

I heard this quote from a Marine today on NPR talking about the sucide bombing earlier and how they are now dealing with IRAQI citizens. We've been told to be professional and polite, but prepared to kill anyone we meet. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Quote of the Day

I heard this quote from a Marine today on NPR talking about the sucide bombing earlier and how they are now dealing with IRAQI citizens. We've been told to be professional and polite, but prepared to kill anyone we meet. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Enraptured in Babylon

banking foretelling of THE MARK OF THE BEAST ? (I always thought RAH might be an agent of Satan :) ) Guess the revenue from Left Behind Books is starting to slip... -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Enraptured in Babylon

banking foretelling of THE MARK OF THE BEAST ? (I always thought RAH might be an agent of Satan :) ) Guess the revenue from Left Behind Books is starting to slip... -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Russian opposition to Iraq war not all altrustic

://www.gazeta.ru/2003/03/26/NohopeforRus.shtml -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

a bit of a double standard to me. This is the U.S.: we live and die by the double standard. A Google search turns up this straight from our crypto export control friends: http://www.bxa.doc.gov/AntiboycottCompliance/OACRequirements.html -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available

Russian opposition to Iraq war not all altrustic

://www.gazeta.ru/2003/03/26/NohopeforRus.shtml -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Things are looking better all the time

and taken out six sites where GPS jammers were being used. He claimed one site had been taken out with a GPS guided weapon. Kind of Ironic I beleive he said. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Boycotting the Unwilling

a bit of a double standard to me. This is the U.S.: we live and die by the double standard. A Google search turns up this straight from our crypto export control friends: http://www.bxa.doc.gov/AntiboycottCompliance/OACRequirements.html -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available

Re: About Christers versus Ragheads

(No, 11!, there's another coming out in April !) books in the Left Behind Series. I've read a few chapters and decided I liked Stephen King's, The Stand better. -- Neil Johnson

Re: About Christers versus Ragheads

(No, 11!, there's another coming out in April !) books in the Left Behind Series. I've read a few chapters and decided I liked Stephen King's, The Stand better. -- Neil Johnson

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

favorite: Senator John Smith, our detectors currently show that you are wearing a bra and panties from Victoria's Secret under your suit, care to explain ? -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Orwell's Victory goods come home

we tell you to do if you love freedom. Americans tend to also forget that the French provided a lot of support for the colonies during the American Revolution. -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

+FC_AZZWCATCDE:+FC_AW_KEYMSCD:+FC_SW_PRDBBID:7483 So the man can now know what books you taking on the flight (Hopefully not the flight training manual for the aircraft). -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

to those Hane's T-shirt commericals starring Jackie Chan and Michael Jordan during the Superbowl. They were advertising their Tagless T-shirts. I see an upsurge in handmade clothing coming too. (of course that will have to be followed by homemade cloth, etc.) -- Neil Johnson http

Re: Brinwear at Benetton.

On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:13 pm, Neil Johnson wrote: RFID technology for libraries ... http://www.demco.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?PROCFUN+LWDCWEB+LWDC025+PRD+ENG+FUNCP ARMS+ZZWSESSID(A0200):29762251880047332521+ZZWNAVPAG(A0100):PROMO+DATESEQ(A0 140):31210321918+FC_AZZWHDRCMP:DEMCO_HEADER

Re: interesting (fwd)

I think Tim hit the nail on the head: http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=938 -- Neil Johnson http://www.njohnsn.com PGP key available on request.

Re: The next time you see someone on TV in a newsroom

or something. Then they edit the video to insert the reporter into the middle so it looks more realistic. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH

Re: Stand back or I'll jump....

impression :) -- Neil Johnson PGP key available on request.

BS or Not ?

. This is how we the people of the United States can rob these people of their most desired goal, your terror. SFC Red Thomas (Ret)Armor Master Gunner Mesa, AZ -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

BS or Not ?

. This is how we the people of the United States can rob these people of their most desired goal, your terror. SFC Red Thomas (Ret)Armor Master Gunner Mesa, AZ -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

for a shale oil extraction facility. Of course they were abandoned. The towns folk were still paying off the bonds they floated to pay for the streets and sewers that they built to support the hoardes of workers that were supposed to move in. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net

Re: Who feigned Roger Rabbit?

to Chicago for our one year anniversary. I remember an article in the paper (David Barry ?) in the 80's that thought that Amtrak would be perfect for moving missiles around because you could never guess what their schedule was going to be. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net

Re: the news from bush's speech...H-power

for a shale oil extraction facility. Of course they were abandoned. The towns folk were still paying off the bonds they floated to pay for the streets and sewers that they built to support the hoardes of workers that were supposed to move in. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net

Re: The Plague

people realize that one of the reasons we live so long today is because of the lowly toliet. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Re: The Plague

people realize that one of the reasons we live so long today is because of the lowly toliet. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Re: Bruce Schneier Hullabaloo

. Let's just get rid of the middle-man (government) and then the corps can take take of enforcement directly (pirate a song, get whacked). Much more efficient I would guess. -- Neil Johnson PGP key available on request.

Re: Bruce Schneier Hullabaloo

. Let's just get rid of the middle-man (government) and then the corps can take take of enforcement directly (pirate a song, get whacked). Much more efficient I would guess. -- Neil Johnson PGP key available on request.

Re: CRYPTO-GRAM, December 15, 2002

and stepped out of life and looked at hte gov't..and did not like it..i now vote...that is the way it should be..:) You're new here, aren't you ? -- Neil Johnson

Video Mules: (Was: Re: Psuedo-Private Key (eJazeera) )

(Referring to previous thread about capturing video.) As I sit here looking at a 64 MB SD Card that I just picked up for $28 at my local Wally World, I was wondering why it (or it is larger capacity brethren) couldn't be used to record video and then (after appropriate protection) swallowed.

Re: stego building

On Sunday 24 November 2002 04:49 pm, Tarapia Tapioco wrote: There is a huge concrete building, hardly any windows, occupying the whole block-width between Market and Mission streets in san francisco, one side being 11th street. Funny thing is that it has no markings at all. The main entrance

Re: Microsoft on Darknet

On Saturday 23 November 2002 11:32 pm, Steve Schear wrote: At 04:59 PM 11/21/2002 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Mojo was intended to do this but it failed, I think it failed because they failed to monetize mojo before it was introduced as service management mechanism. I failed because it had

Re: Microsoft on Darknet

On Saturday 23 November 2002 11:32 pm, Steve Schear wrote: At 04:59 PM 11/21/2002 -0800, James A. Donald wrote: Mojo was intended to do this but it failed, I think it failed because they failed to monetize mojo before it was introduced as service management mechanism. I failed because it had

Re: Katy, bar the door

On Saturday 02 November 2002 06:38 pm, Major Variola (ret) wrote: Around a year ago a small private jet lost contact over the US. A jet was dispatched, saw iced windows, no response to signals. The plane was on autopilot, eventually crashed in the middle of nowhere. The passengers/pilot

Re: Why is a Georgia Tech machine the nameserver for pipeline.com?

On Monday 07 October 2002 02:04 am, Bill Stewart wrote: What's strange is that there are three nameservers for pipeline.com, at least according to the nslookup that I did. Two of them are itchy and scratchy.mindspring.net, which sound reasonable, but the first one is burdell.cc.gatech.edu.

Re: Why is a Georgia Tech machine the nameserver for pipeline.com?

On Monday 07 October 2002 02:04 am, Bill Stewart wrote: What's strange is that there are three nameservers for pipeline.com, at least according to the nslookup that I did. Two of them are itchy and scratchy.mindspring.net, which sound reasonable, but the first one is burdell.cc.gatech.edu.

Re: What good are smartcard readers for PCs

Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from that most cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 ! https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp

Re: What good are smartcard readers for PCs

Hey don't forget you can still buy a smart card reader from that most cypherpunkish of babes BRITNEY SPEARS ! Only $30 ! https://www.visiblevisitors.com/mltest/order_form.asp

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

it think it's in, Government Snoop mode ) ? Then the watermark can be removed. Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to digital copy to make it on the net and it's all over. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key

Re: FC: Hollywood wants to plug analog hole, regulate A-D

it think it's in, Government Snoop mode ) ? Then the watermark can be removed. Remember it only requires ONE high-quality non-watermarked analog to digital copy to make it on the net and it's all over. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key

Re: Cow Obscenity and Pornography

the attendees react (particularly some of those bubble headed blonde hollywood startlet types). To quote a recent animated film (Hope I don't get whacked by the DMCA): Character One: What's Eating Him ? Character Two: NOTHING! He's the top of the food chain! -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http

Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance

with my Leatherman Micra and my nail clippers :) -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Re: another reason to avoid airbus: surveillance

with my Leatherman Micra and my nail clippers :) -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Re: Got carried away...

had recently purchased a Vette. It said please ignore, this car is just a AMC Pacer with a REALLY GOOD paint job. -- Neil Johnson, N0SFH http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn http://www.njohnsn.com/ PGP key available on request.

Viability of Anonymous Reputations ? (Barrings Bank, Enron, and E-bay fiasco)

So how does one respond to comments, in light of these current (and past) events, on the idea that no-one will be able to trust the reputations of anonymous brokers, sellers, or issuers All were supposedly trusted and respected institutions that had established track records that suddenly

Re: Jail Cell Cipher (modified RC4)

Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jeremy Lennert [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: Jail Cell Cipher (modified RC4) At 10:28 PM -0600 on 2/22/02, Neil Johnson wrote: I believe that Ron Rivest (the R in RC4) has already created a version

FBI Alerts

Zen Master says: If one is always on alert, then they are not on alert.

WalMart's War on NyQuil

Still believe that the government doesn't snoop in your private life ? Read on: Everyone in my Family has a bad cold this week. So my wife is in Wal-Mart and she has in her cart (among the usually household items): 1 Box of Advil Cold Sinus (for my Wife), 1 Bottle of Children's Tyenol Cold

Re: Ecash fraud resolution

Watch the last tape in the US Public Broadcasting Systems (PBS) series 21st Centutry Jet. It shows the transaction between Boeing and United Airlines for the purchase of Boeing's First 777 jet. Multiple Lawyers, Bankers, Company and Government officials spread accross the US on a conference

CD-RW serial numbers

To get around the CD-RW serial-number issue should be easy. Buy a CD-RW with cash at a computer-fest or ham (amateur-radio) swap meet. DON'T burn anything on the CD-RW that could be traced back to you. At the last ham swap meet I attended there was a guy selling loads of complete DSS systems

Re: The Crypto Winter

better get to bed. -Neil - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: The Crypto Winter -- On 18 Nov 2001, at 14:17, Neil Johnson wrote: It would seem to me that digital cash would

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