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Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [IP] Internet phone wiretapping (Psst! The FBI is Having Trouble on the Line, Aug. 15)]

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Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

2005-09-06 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 11:49 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: Shawn Quinn wrote... For the people that only route stuff like HTTP traffic through your Tor node, it will be a benefit. If I'm IRCing and get routed through your node, that's a different story (but it's no different than the bad old days

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Thus spake Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04/09/05 21:14]: : I assume Tor is smart enough to try various open ports TOR can only contact other entry/mid/exit nodes on the ports they're listening on. The documentation actually requests that people set up nodes on TCP ports 80 and 443, for

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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SQ wrote... A Houston (TX, USA) public library? Could be next to impossible, as well as excellent cause for revocation of your library card Oh no! Loss of the Houston library card! My passport to knowledge!!! criminal prosecution if caught. Well, the idea would be not to get caught. I'm

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

2005-09-06 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 13:56 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, am I contributing to the greater Tor network if I allow my USB Tor node to function while I'm sucking down a cappucino or two? For the people that only route stuff like HTTP traffic through your Tor node, it will be a

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Shawn Quinn wrote... For the people that only route stuff like HTTP traffic through your Tor node, it will be a benefit. If I'm IRCing and get routed through your node, that's a different story (but it's no different than the bad old days of IIP where people dropped off by the dozens when

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]

2005-09-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:44:36PM -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or whatever start acting like a temporary Tor node? I don't see why not, you'd be just middleman. If you want to wind up on this list

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]

2005-09-06 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Bill Stewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04/09/05 01:27]: : At 08:53 AM 9/3/2005, Damian Gerow wrote: : Though, you can just skip all that, walk in to Starbucks, sit down, and : start using your TOR node as your own entry point. No registration, no : wait, no nothing: just sit down and go. I

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Thus spake Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [02/09/05 19:45]: : How long will it take the Greater Tor Network to notice the existence of : this little node? A few days after you register. : In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or : whatever start acting like

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While the US certainly has been interfering with Chavez and generally trying to mess around in Venezuela for a while, most of what's happening here is just that Chavez is running off at the mouth for domestic political reasons. (Pat Robertson was partly doing that also and partly just

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Fascinating little gizmo. Got a question...sorry I'm just too f'in busy to keep up with this side, but... How long will it take the Greater Tor Network to notice the existence of this little node? In other words, if I go into a Starbucks with this thing, can my laptop or whatever start

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At 08:53 AM 9/3/2005, Damian Gerow wrote: Though, you can just skip all that, walk in to Starbucks, sit down, and start using your TOR node as your own entry point. No registration, no wait, no nothing: just sit down and go. I just set a node up a few days ago, and was surprised at how simple

Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Tor on USB]

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Re: Tor VoIP, etc...

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Thus spake Tyler Durden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [03/09/05 14:03]: : Well, here I meant after registration, etc...in a regular IP network it : can take seconds to minutes in order for routing tables (at layer 3) or the : local MAC Address tables (at layer 2) to recognize that you're back on : line.

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On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 13:56 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote: In other words, am I contributing to the greater Tor network if I allow my USB Tor node to function while I'm sucking down a cappucino or two? For the people that only route stuff like HTTP traffic through your Tor node, it will be a

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Supposedly, the tobacco companies have had commercial marijuana products ready forever (I've even seen photos, but I always suspected they were doctored up stoner's dreams). The idea that the pharmaceutical companies would start actively researching new designer drugs is fascinating and

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:39 AM 8/23/2005, Trei, Peter wrote: Tyler Durden writes: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? Actually, if we ever managed to kill the culture of prohibition, I suspect that crystal meth would be about as popular

ORLANDO, Fla.: Pest Control Workers To Help Fight Crime

2005-08-23 Thread Laney
August 10, 2005 One of Central Florida's largest pest control companies has been recruited by police to help fight crime, according to Local 6 News. Technicians from Truly Nolen Pest Control of America are being trained by local law enforcement to spot anything unusual as they visit customer's

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Coderman wrote... the state of oregon just passed a law (yet to be put into effect) that requires a prescription from a doctor for all sudafed (pseudo ephedrine) purchases. the problem isn't drug addicts killing themselves with corrosive fluids, as this would be a problem that solves itself

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread coderman
On 8/23/05, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? agreed; though i'd rather see them taking something less neurotoxic, like dex or racemic

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread J.A. Terranson
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? There's little doubt that the vast majority of drug-related crime stems not from some crazed crime spree but from issues relating to supply

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread Trei, Peter
Tyler Durden writes: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? Actually, if we ever managed to kill the culture of prohibition, I suspect that crystal meth would be about as popular is bathtub gin is today. It's terrible

New Drugs

2005-08-23 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 1:39 PM -0400 8/23/05, Trei, Peter wrote: I [want] a new drug... I would request the irony-impaired actually look up the lyrics of this paen to endogenous ero-endorphins, written by a drug-hating San Francisco acid-kindergarten refugee. In the meantime,

Re: New Drugs

2005-08-23 Thread Steve Furlong
On 8/23/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 1:39 PM -0400 8/23/05, Trei, Peter wrote: I [want] a new drug... I would request the irony-impaired actually look up the lyrics of this paen to endogenous ero-endorphins, written by a drug-hating

Re: GPS Jammer Firm nearly ejected from Russian air show.

2005-08-23 Thread Steve Schear
At 09:27 PM 8/22/2005, Bill Stewart wrote: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/stories/2005/08/22/002.html Monday, August 22, 2005. Issue 3235. Page 1. Irksome Firm Nearly Ejected From Air Show By Lyuba Pronina Staff Writer Ivan Sekretarev / AP Spectators watching the Patrouille de France

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread Tyler Durden
Supposedly, the tobacco companies have had commercial marijuana products ready forever (I've even seen photos, but I always suspected they were doctored up stoner's dreams). The idea that the pharmaceutical companies would start actively researching new designer drugs is fascinating and

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:39 AM 8/23/2005, Trei, Peter wrote: Tyler Durden writes: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? Actually, if we ever managed to kill the culture of prohibition, I suspect that crystal meth would be about as popular

New Drugs

2005-08-23 Thread R.A. Hettinga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 1:39 PM -0400 8/23/05, Trei, Peter wrote: I [want] a new drug... I would request the irony-impaired actually look up the lyrics of this paen to endogenous ero-endorphins, written by a drug-hating San Francisco acid-kindergarten refugee. In the meantime,

Re: New Drugs

2005-08-23 Thread Steve Furlong
On 8/23/05, R.A. Hettinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 1:39 PM -0400 8/23/05, Trei, Peter wrote: I [want] a new drug... I would request the irony-impaired actually look up the lyrics of this paen to endogenous ero-endorphins, written by a drug-hating

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [Politech] Montana Supreme Court justice warns Orwell's 1984 has arrived [priv]]

2005-08-23 Thread coderman
On 8/23/05, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005, Tyler Durden wrote: Yes, but the old question needs to be asked: How much of this crime would go away if crystal meth were legal? agreed; though i'd rather see them taking something less neurotoxic, like dex or racemic

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