Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Marcel Popescu wrote: > The idea of "experiments" is socialistic in nature; capitalism is based on > principles. Capitalism is based on profit, not principles. It uses 'principles' or 'strategies' to manage that profit. Religion and politics are based on principles (one of

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-12 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Steve Schear wrote: > At 06:27 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > > >Oh, there are no 'hereditary rights'. You can't inherit a right from your > >parents. You're simply born with it. > > You should take this up with Mr. Paine. My copy of his collected works > shows

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-12 Thread Marcel Popescu
From: "Steve Schear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It will be > interesting to see whether our notion of inalienable (not to mention those > of the founders) is still a zeitgeist in a hundred years of so or whether > self-governance was just a failed experiment. The idea of "experiments" is socialistic

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 06:27 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, Jim Choate wrote: >Oh, there are no 'hereditary rights'. You can't inherit a right from your >parents. You're simply born with it. You should take this up with Mr. Paine. My copy of his collected works shows numerous references to the term he applied to the rights

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-11 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Steve Schear wrote: > I think you're a bit confused by the poor context continuity of the > responders. It was Soze who originally failed to clarify (his?) Paine > reference. Ms. Farr just used that opportunity to add ambiguity or just > playfully redirect the thread to

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-11 Thread Steve Schear
At 05:43 PM 2/11/2002 -0600, Black Unicorn wrote: >I believe Ms. Farr is referring to Brigadier General E. A. Paine. > >Like Thomas Paine he also wrote quite a bit on Hereditary rights. Since you >weren't adroit enough to specify which Paine you meant, it's quite >convenient for you to switch mid

Re: Chotian Paine in the butt. (Was: RE: Cruel and unusual punishment)

2002-02-11 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 5:43 PM -0600 on 2/11/02, Black Unicorn wrote: > This will make three of your addresses now in my killfile. It's like a virus coat, or something. Whack-A-Choate, maybe... :-). Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation