Re: Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office

2003-01-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 06:15:24PM -0800, Bill Stewart wrote: > VoA has spent the last N decades alternating between being > the official US propaganda arm, and officially NOT being a > US propaganda arm, just an organization we fund to make sure > there's objective news reporting receivable in Com

Re: thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > Has built-in Ethernet and serial ports, and with a chip like FT8U232AM it > could work with USB as well. The 232BM version is easier to use and costs the same. Patience, persistence, truth, Dr. mike

Re: thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Tyler Durden
John Bethancourt wrote... "One of these days, I might build a little device that stores a private key and does on-board encryption using a microcontroller. I would do it just for fun, since it is pretty useless if the infrastructure to support it is not out there." ...while Thomas Shaddack gav

RE: Deniable Thumbdrive? (and taking signal detection seriously)

2003-01-24 Thread Bill Frantz
At 10:11 AM -0800 1/24/03, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >You do, of course, have >to trust the hardware/OS you use it with. "If you don't know the >socket, keep your dongle in your pants" Given the well documented advantages of poetry over prose in ease of recall, this adage should be, "If you don'

Re: thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> One of these days, I might build a little device that stores a private key > and does on-board encryption using a microcontroller. I would do it just for > fun, since it is pretty useless if the infrastructure to support it is not out > there. Check http://developer.axis.com/products/mcm/ - this

SuperCobra Crash Information - WLG

2003-01-24 Thread wguerin
"SuperCobra Crash Information" - WLG Regarding the "Helicopter Crash while on a Drug Bust 2003.01.23" Background: News reports indicate that 2 "unknown" us marine helicopters crashed in the desert while assisting a DEA/Customs drug interception. News did not break until the next day that these

Re: thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> WTF is the point of adding more biometric security to a device that > cannot and does not support data integrity? that flash memory held > within the thumbdrive keeps your data in clear text...unless of course > you store everything within some form of encrypted disk. even then, > the quick an

Re: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > Use the kind of fingerprint reader that can also sense the blood flow in > the finger, kinda like the heart rate sensors on some exercise machines. > Dead fingers then will be of no use. Photoplethysmography and photoxytometry are easy to fake once yo

RE: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 11:40 AM 01/24/2003 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: Peter Trei wrote... "What's you're threat model? If it's your wife or kid sister, this might work. If it's a major corporation or a government, forget it - they'll bitcopy the whole flash rom, and look at it with ease." Agreed. Furthermore, the

Re: thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread John Bethencourt
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 09:51:46PM +0100, Thomas Shaddack wrote: > DEFINITELY TRUE! > > ... > > The device should be able to perform the encryption/decryption services on > its own (hence the cryptographic CPU). Eg, you have an untrusted computer. > You plug the device to its port, move a documen

Re: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Thomas Shaddack
> Nice! Get them to cut _all_ your fingers off instead of just one. > Just say no to amputationware. Use the kind of fingerprint reader that can also sense the blood flow in the finger, kinda like the heart rate sensors on some exercise machines. Dead fingers then will be of no use. ...of course

Re: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Ben Laurie
Tyler Durden wrote: I got a hold of a little gadget recently that is very nearly perfect for certain forms of data storage. It's called a "Thumbdrive" and I bought it online somewhere (64Meg for about $179 or so). The cool thing about this drive (small enough that it has holes for use as a key

Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-01-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, David Howe wrote: > Bearing in mind though that DRM/Paladium won't work at all if it can't > trust its hardware - so TPM != Paladium, but TPM (or an improved TPM) is > a prerequisite. Certainly! But this TPM is really nothing more than a dongle attached to the pci bus. It w

RE: Deniable Thumbdrive? (and taking signal detection seriously)

2003-01-24 Thread Major Variola (ret)
> From: "Tyler Durden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The cool thing about this drive (small enough that it has holes for use as a > keychain) is that it's got a "Public" area and a private area, and the > private area is accessible (if one desires) only via the little fingerprint > reader on the top of th

The Digital Evolution: Freenet and the Future of Copyright on the Internet

2003-01-24 Thread Steve Schear
IMHO, the article is the most reasoned, complete and balanced legal (and commonly accessible technical) analysis of the P2P scene. The direct link is http://www.lawtechjournal.com/articles/2002/05_021229_roemer.php Conclusion More legal questions and conundrums are raised with a technology like

Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-01-24 Thread David Howe
at Friday, January 24, 2003 4:53 PM, Mike Rosing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: > Thanks Eugen, It looks like the IBM TPM chip is only a key > store read/write device. It has no code space for the kind of > security discussed in the TCPA. The user still controls the machine > and can still

thumdrive integrity --Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread someone
WTF is the point of adding more biometric security to a device that cannot and does not support data integrity? that flash memory held within the thumbdrive keeps your data in clear text...unless of course you store everything within some form of encrypted disk. even then, the quick and dirty w

Re: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-01-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Eugen Leitl wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:29:27 -0500 > From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers > > > -- Forwarded Message > From: David Saffo

RE: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Tyler Durden
Peter Trei wrote... "What's you're threat model? If it's your wife or kid sister, this might work. If it's a major corporation or a government, forget it - they'll bitcopy the whole flash rom, and look at it with ease." At this point, most of my threat models are on this level or the next one hi

[IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers (fwd)

2003-01-24 Thread Eugen Leitl
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:29:27 -0500 From: Dave Farber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [IP] Open Source TCPA driver and white papers -- Forwarded Message From: David Safford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:05:39 -0

Re: Atlas Shrugs in Venezuela

2003-01-24 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 05:53:04PM -0800, James A. Donald wrote: > > Perhaps they are exercising their will over the facilities of > production and distribution by CIA microwaves beamed into > people's brains :-) Given the general knownothing, lockstep mentality exhibited by the Bushites, th

Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Tyler Durden
I got a hold of a little gadget recently that is very nearly perfect for certain forms of data storage. It's called a "Thumbdrive" and I bought it online somewhere (64Meg for about $179 or so). The cool thing about this drive (small enough that it has holes for use as a keychain) is that it's g

RE: Deniable Thumbdrive?

2003-01-24 Thread Trei, Peter
> -- > From: Tyler Durden[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Deniable Thumbdrive? > > I got a hold of a little gadget recently that is very nearly perfect for > certain forms of data storage. It's ca

Re: CDR: Re: Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office

2003-01-24 Thread Alif The Terrible
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Bill Stewart wrote: > VoA has spent the last N decades alternating between being > the official US propaganda arm, and officially NOT being a > US propaganda arm, just an organization we fund to make sure > there's objective news reporting receivable in Communist countries >

The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and "minorities" is about to

2003-01-24 Thread GaryJeffers
My Fellow Cypherpunks, Tim May writes: >On Tuesday, January 21, 2003, at 11:55  AM, Anonymous wrote: Anonymous : >> I'm sure that I do nothing new in drawing parallels between the >> occurences in George Orwell's seminal text "1984" and the founding of the  Information >> Awareness Office.  It

Re: Forget VOA -- new exec order creating Global Communications Office

2003-01-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:45 PM 01/22/2003 +, Peter Fairbrother wrote: W H Robinson wrote: > [...] >> with greater clarity > [...] >> disseminate truthful, accurate, and effective messages about the >> American people and their government. > [...] >> convey a few simple but powerful messages. > > Shouldn't Saatch

Re: Big Brotherish Laws

2003-01-24 Thread Bill Stewart
At 12:45 AM 12/18/2002 +, Adam Back wrote: If I recall some time ago (years ago) there was some discussion on list of using non-US drivers licenses or out-of-state drivers licenses I think to get around this problem. I thought it was Duncan Frissell or Black Unicorn who offered some opinions