Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-14 Thread Dave Howe
Rich Salz wrote: >> *shrug* it doesn't retroactively enforce the safety net - but that's >> ok, most MS products don't either :) > The whole point is to enhance common practice, not stay at the lowest > common denominator. If someone has *already* issued a certificate - and ignored the CA flag - is

Re: Don't worry...it's just one of Saddam's doubles

2003-12-14 Thread Tim May
On Dec 14, 2003, at 6:33 PM, Thomas Shaddack wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: Spread the word. The adminstration got desparate. In a few weeks they'll announce this isn't the real Saddam, but that rounding up all of the clones is necessary progress in the fight to get the real Sa

Re: cpunk-like meeting report

2003-12-14 Thread proclus
Hi, I've been admiring your and Tim's contributions, and I was wondering if either of you were planning to subscribe to the (new) news list. http://lists.cryptnet.net/mailman/listinfo/cpunx-news Be sure and check the archive before posting. It is still small. Otherwise, if anyone could recommen

Re: Don't worry...it's just one of Saddam's doubles

2003-12-14 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Tyler Durden wrote: > Spread the word. The adminstration got desparate. In a few weeks they'll > announce this isn't the real Saddam, but that rounding up all of the clones > is necessary progress in the fight to get the real Saddam. If I don't remember incorrectly, they sai

Re: Don't worry...it's just one of Saddam's doubles

2003-12-14 Thread Eric Tully
Ahh... but if that were true, why would the US ever admit it? Let's say they run a DNA test and it's not him... why not just say, "We ran a DNA test and it's him!!" That would be a bigger boost for Bush for the coming election. There's still 13 more in the deck of cards - as well as Bin Lade

Re: cpunk-like meeting report

2003-12-14 Thread Tim May
On Dec 14, 2003, at 6:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been admiring your and Tim's contributions, and I was wondering if either of you were planning to subscribe to the (new) news list. http://lists.cryptnet.net/mailman/listinfo/cpunx-news Be sure and check the archive before posting.

Re: cpunk-like meeting report

2003-12-14 Thread proclus
On 14 Dec, Tim May wrote: > No, we don't need a "cpunx-news" list. This is what Google and the > ability to see hundreds of various lists and sites is for. > > "News" lists tend strongly to be just dumping grounds for crap from > other lists. Yea, and I'll admit that I'm a junky, which is why I

Re: cpunk-like meeting report

2003-12-14 Thread Tim May
On Dec 14, 2003, at 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14 Dec, Tim May wrote: No, we don't need a "cpunx-news" list. This is what Google and the ability to see hundreds of various lists and sites is for. "News" lists tend strongly to be just dumping grounds for crap from other lists. Yea, and I'

Patriot Ants (was: Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings)

2003-12-14 Thread Thomas Shaddack
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, John Kelsey wrote: > Of course, there's a more fundamental problem with surrendering to the lone > warriors. Imagine that there's such a wave of pro-life terrorism that we > finally agree to ban abortion. You're a fanatically committed pro-choice > activist. What's your nex

Don't worry...it's just one of Saddam's doubles

2003-12-14 Thread Tyler Durden
Spread the word. The adminstration got desparate. In a few weeks they'll announce this isn't the real Saddam, but that rounding up all of the clones is necessary progress in the fight to get the real Saddam. -TD _ Get holiday tips

Re: Patriot Ants (was: Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings)

2003-12-14 Thread Nostradumbass
From: Thomas Shaddack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, John Kelsey wrote: > > > Of course, there's a more fundamental problem with surrendering to the lone > > warriors. Imagine that there's such a wave of pro-life terrorism that we > > finally agree to ban abortion. You're a fanatical

Re: Compromised Remailers

2003-12-14 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:49 PM 12/13/2003 +0100, some provocateur claiming to be Anonymous wrote: A question for the moment might well be how many if any of the remailers are operated by TLAs? The TLAs have proposed running various anonymizers for China and other countries that have oppressive eavesdroppers. If yo

Re: Compromised Remailers

2003-12-14 Thread Tim May
On Dec 14, 2003, at 12:40 AM, Bill Stewart wrote: At 06:49 PM 12/13/2003 +0100, some provocateur claiming to be Anonymous wrote: A question for the moment might well be how many if any of the remailers are operated by TLAs? The TLAs have proposed running various anonymizers for China and other

cpunk-like meeting report

2003-12-14 Thread Major Variola (ret.)
I went to a meeting of the Irvine Underground (irvineunderground.org) which reminded me of late-90s SF CP meatings. Although the overall tech level was probably lower and social implications weren't a big topic. Also, at this meeting, there were far more cameras or videocams than were present (at

Re: Zombie Patriots and other musings

2003-12-14 Thread Major Variola (ret)
(resend) At 11:52 AM 12/13/03 -0500, John Kelsey wrote: >At 09:19 AM 12/12/03 -0800, Major Variola (ret) wrote: >... >>You need to think about the "lone warrior" scenario that the Gang >>worries about. McVeighs and Rudolphs. >>They were influenced by memes which were not immediately suppressed. >

Re: Compromised Remailers

2003-12-14 Thread Bryan L. Fordham
Tim May wrote: I haven't carefully looked at the current source code (if it's available) for things like "Type II Mixmaster" remailers, things which offer reply-blocks. The source is available for mixmaster. However, Type II does not offer reply blocks. Certainly for the canonical Cypherpunks