Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-08 Thread Anonymous
>Cryptome received a visit today from FBI Special Agents Todd Renner and Christopher >Kelly from the FBI Counterterrorism Office in New York, 26 Federal Plaza, telephone >212) 384-1000. Both agents presented official ID and business cards. Good stuff. Pigs getting concerned about cryptome means th

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-10 Thread Sunder
Not scared, hungry. They're looking for more "collars" they can throw in jail so they meet their quotas. --Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--- + ^ + :25Kliters anthrax, 38K liters botulinum toxin, 500 tons of /|\ \|/ :sarin, mustard and VX gas, mobile bi

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-10 Thread John Young
SA Renner did most of the talking and carried a manila folder with a file name on it beginning with "SP," I think. Couldn't see the remainder. He didn't open it during the session and it may have been a prop. They showed up without warning, no call ahead, got past our Doberman doorman (we're on

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-12 Thread Anonymous
>I tried to get them to sit together but they carefully >bracketed me. John, it's imaginable how it feels. It's very inconvenient when men with guns send their minions - and it wouldn't surprise me if it does, over time, change Cryptome's attitude. Avoid heroic stupidity. Optimize for the long run

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-12 Thread Tim May
On Nov 8, 2003, at 11:06 AM, Anonymous wrote: Cryptome received a visit today from FBI Special Agents Todd Renner and Christopher Kelly from the FBI Counterterrorism Office in New York, 26 Federal Plaza, telephone 212) 384-1000. Both agents presented official ID and business cards. Good stuff. P

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-15 Thread Freematt357
In a message dated 11/10/2003 3:02:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They showed up without warning, no call ahead, got past our Doberman doorman (we're on the 6th floor) who usually calls us about visitors but didn't this time, and hasn't said a peep since the visit. Why o

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-15 Thread John Young
Matt wrote: >Why open the door to them? I have a few friends who as a matter of principle >do not open their doors to people they do not know. Letting a Fedgoon in is >akin to inviting a vampire into your house. I was expecting someone else at about the same time. True, I could have refused ent

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-15 Thread Anonymous
>Confirming the allegation about idiot witnesses, I am >sure I would not recognize either agent if I saw them >again. The IDs yes, and the questions, but not the >bland biometrics. You do have right to take pictures in your residence, no ? I am sure that "John Young's real time door webcam" would

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-18 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 09:01:00PM -0800, Tim May wrote: > People should not talk to the Feds. If the Feds come calling, refer > them to one's lawyer. For those who don't have a lawyer on retainer, > tell them that you need to consult with a lawyer first. Whether you do > or you don't is beside

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-19 Thread John Young
Declan wrote: >Even if you don't have a lawyer on retainer, and I suspect few folks >here do, saying you need to consult with one will provide you with >time to give the local ACLU affiliate a call. Also law school legal >clinics can be useful sources of free advice in a pinch. I've consulted a l

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-30 Thread Bill Stewart
At 04:35 AM 11/16/2003 +0100, Anonymous wrote: >Confirming the allegation about idiot witnesses, I am >sure I would not recognize either agent if I saw them >again. The IDs yes, and the questions, but not the >bland biometrics. You do have right to take pictures in your residence, no ? I am sure t

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-30 Thread John Young
My comment about the SAs having no noticeable body odor came out the notion that persons on a dangerous mission emit an easily identifiable smell, a smell not unlike that emitted by an unwary target when suddently confronted with danger. Innocents need not worry about these unintentional fear ema

Re: Gestapo harasses John Young, appeals to patriotism, told to fuck off

2003-11-30 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 07:40 AM 11/30/03 -0800, John Young wrote: >My comment about the SAs having no noticeable body odor >came out the notion that persons on a dangerous mission >emit an easily identifiable smell, a smell not unlike that >emitted by an unwary target when suddently confronted with >danger. Agents ha